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mod6: anyway. ya, something
to look at.
mod6: the harder part is
trying
to move 'deps' ..//..
mod6: this change is pretty
trivial. probably will update V99994 before it comes out (was about
to release
this weekend). will need
to add at least an automated
test
too. not a big deal.
mod6: there would be nothing
to denote any said changes in a pressed directory.
mircea_popescu: i mean, wtf would it be, how'd he know what of his changes were kept in
the first place
mod6: but maybe
this is just
that, a bad-form-case. do not do
this.
mod6: yeah, im maybe considering
the bad-form-case where someone modifies
the source of a pressed directory, forgets about his changes, comes back 12 years later,
then re-presses over said changes, now lost.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: mod6 well you delete his files, but he can regenerate
them anyway, is
the idea.
mod6: i just wanna be considerate before agreeing
to
this. i'll
think on it.
ben_vulpes: "oh i
took
this priceless jewel and scribbled my name in it"
ben_vulpes: what would
the point be? destroys press integrity.
mod6: blowing away someones dir without notice seems like
the wrong approach, no matter how clean it might seem.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: imagine if pregnancy worked
this way. get girl pregnant, fuck her again a month later get her pregnant again, except
timer reset.
ben_vulpes: seems
the cleanest, least error prone
thing
to do.
ben_vulpes: sorry. i'd rather it rip out
the press
target if it existed.
ben_vulpes: i'd rather it were
transparently idempotent.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> if you move /deps/
that'll work fine. <<
this part is a bit more
tricky. but might be possible.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> i suppose alternatively could just say DO NOT PRESS
TWICE! DELETE DIR BETWEEN PRESSES. << agree.
there obviously needs
to be a check in
there - if
the press directory already exists, warn
the user and stop.
☟︎ mod6: but I
think now
that we have
the outside makefiles integrated and working well, maybe we can prune out
those dirs and create
them as needed? certainly worth looking into. certainly would be nice
to get rid of
those
things finally
mircea_popescu: i suppose alternatively could just say DO NOT PRESS
TWICE! DELETE DIR BETWEEN PRESSES.
mircea_popescu: makefile bs. alright, well, i guess we'll need a
test for file exists or some such hair.
a111: Logged on 2015-07-19 22:04 mod6: <+phf> ben_vulpes: because makefile.unix expects
them, (search for obj/nogui/%.o: %.cpp, etc.) << ben_vulpes yeah
this stuff
a111: Logged on 2015-07-19 21:31 ben_vulpes: mod6: re gitkeeps do we even know why
those empty dirs are necessary for a succesful compile?
mod6: (and by bitcoin makefile,
this meant 'makefile.unix' in
the src directory)
a111: Logged on 2015-09-24 00:25 mod6: <+phf> shinohai: you probably have rm_gitignore.patch applied, which removes .gitignore files from src/obj/nogui and nukes
the folders along
the way? << i said
to disregard
this patch. reason is, it wipes out output dirs required by
the bitcoin makefile.
mod6: Well,
there are a bunch of references...
mod6: long ago, we all
talked about
this. and perhaps it is
time
to prune
these directories. but at
the
time, it was decided
to leave
them as-is
mod6: it's only current use, is
that it allows directories not
to be removed.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i could make
that read 5k by pushing a switch. idiots have nfi, counting all
the ips you feel like exposing.
mod6: Nice. I've got mine built
too with 'wires'. Just need
to get a minute
to hook it up
to alf's node.
mod6: Sounds like you got it compiled and working, for
this, I'm glad.
mod6: <mircea_popescu> list of items for mod6's convenience : 1) nice job! 2) successive presses overfil .gitignore and possibly other files 3) deps directory should prolly be same level as patches and .seals<< sorry you encountered some issues on 2nd press.
Thanks for your comments. Duly noted.
pete_dushenski: looks like
those xmas
teas from lt bought some more business for uab cherry servers
pete_dushenski: though i'm entirely open
to
the criticism
that it's like sprinkling holy water on a dented can in
the hopes
that clostridium botulinum feels
the wrath of my gods
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: i'd like
to defend him by noting
that social network != social media but dude's command of english leaves enough
to be desired
that
this distinction isn't much of a leg
to stand on
jhvh1: asciilifeform:
The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski seems likely he imagines medium,
twitter and
the rest of
the "im an unemployable but fuckable ditz here's my rider" fare.
pete_dushenski: anyways Framedragger, i don't read nassim's use of 'social network'
to refer
to
the zuckermovie or anything of
the sort. he's naive but not ignorant enough
to miss filtering effects. he'd doubtless include irc and pgpgrams in
the category of mandarin-disrupting
two-way comms. but i agree
that his point is obscured by loose language.
pete_dushenski: taleb's old enough
that he still clearly maintains much of
the 'information superhighway' idealism about
the internet
Framedragger not on
the right side of
the pond
to know, i guess
Framedragger: *of course*. i'm not completely certain
that he meant
the latter (i guess he did?) and if he did, whether what he described is actually
the case ("actual social networks are used as source of info again!1" - maybe?)
ben_vulpes: the lifespan and relevancy of facebook or any other webapp pales in comparison
to
the power of actual social networks
Framedragger:
that it predicts you will click on. a lot of
that reduces
to "things i agree with", which is not at all bazaar-like, iiut. unless he meant "people recognising fake news for what it is, and physical word-of-mouth becoming a
tool again."
the latter does not imply facebook, but still sounds much
too naive
to my ear, but i dunno.
Framedragger: markets and souks,
there is a long
term advantage
to being dependable." << if he's saying what i
think he's saying (social networks work again!1 people use
them
to understand
things!1)
then he's beyond naive, as
the modern 'social network' is nothing like
that of a bazaar.
the former is ~basically facebook which on
top of being...facebook, selectively filters and presents "your friends' stories"
Framedragger: hmm. "The period of
time
that corresponds
to
the reliance on one-sided accounts such as
television and newspapers, which can be controlled by
the mandarins, lasted from
the middle of
the
twentieth century until
the U.S. elections of 2016. In
that sense, social networks, allowing a
two-way flow of information, put back
the mechanism of
tidings in its natural format. As with participants in
Framedragger: lol guardian strikes again pete_dushenski "Even
then someone at
The Guardian
tried (unsuccessfully)
to
tone down my letter by showing
that it was some
type of *disagreement* with what *I* said, not a correction of
their misrepresentation"
pete_dushenski: just a few offerings
to buy
the domain name 'bitcoinpet.com'!
pete_dushenski goes
to check his own spam filter for first
time in months
BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Quite a few
times when you
tried
to email qntra submissions
they were buried in spam que
pete_dushenski: see u guise, email isn't dead! it was just sleeping.
that's not blood coming from its ears and eyes, just catsup
pete_dushenski:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-02#1610852 << shot
this dude (gautier de montmollin) an email last week and actually heard back from him. he said he was flattered at
the invite but was under
the assumption
that 'bitcoin code was already perfect'. now seeing if i can wrangle him into channel for a visit. updates forthcoming.
☝︎ pete_dushenski: it's
the maga fuel so it must be worth something, at least more
than spam ads and search rankings
trinque: (that is
the angle
the leftists are pushing now, eh?)
trinque: microwaves
that
turn into cameras? hawhawhaw, who let
that woman speak on
TV?
mircea_popescu: anyway,
totally on my list of people
to visit later and piss on
the shoes on.
BingoBoingo: lol, well doesn't keep new marks from
trying
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo
that's exactly like "get 100k/month in google advertising checks!!!"
mircea_popescu: busing
tables better, but yeah, prolly
too good for injun.
BingoBoingo: Attach self
to mature nonprofit, eat 95% of donations and plant a couple fucking
trees
mircea_popescu: maybe
that, but
the secret of
that is
that you'd have
to be a stupid as a 20yo "didn't like math" girl
to imagine
that is something
to do.
BingoBoingo: And it's not like his "self" is charismatic enough for
the community organizing scam either
mircea_popescu: there's a signfiicant difference between "actually has a profession" and "goes around
trying
to bully people with
threats from his underworld connections"
BingoBoingo: Not with
that wholesale attack on "private practice" he did
BingoBoingo: And it's not like he has actual opportunities
to make new career in private practice
mircea_popescu: but i guess he has
two weeks of fake news frenzy cca march 2017
to keep him warm for all
that.
mircea_popescu: good point,
though. dude got fucked with a raw pinetree. he's 44. his career is finished. he will be washing dishes / bussing
tables in a coupla years
BingoBoingo: In other pipelines, Antpool is declaring
their switch
to notBitUnlimitedSpamCoin