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mircea_popescu: so much so
that it seems
to me
the whole model is fundamentally flawed. what "corporation" ? bs. wot-style, one man.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think
there's a case in history where
the shareholders got
their money's worth.
trinque: mk my whole point here is
that
the obvious successor failed
ben_vulpes: dipshits who got onto
the car project will say
that about /him/
trinque: I've heard Ive
talking (with misty eye almost) about how
the relationship with Jobs was "hard"
trinque: not according
to his own account
ben_vulpes: stood by, happy
to not be in
the hotseat
ben_vulpes: oh, come, he just organized
the
teams as what
took
the shellacking
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yes, from an individual perspective. but in aggregate, worst case of confederate dollars ever. "we'll
take
these 5bn shares of apple and replace
them with 5bn shjares of crapple. because it's ok hurr."
trinque: guy probably had more of it directed at him
than anybody else in
the place
trinque: how many decades of Jobs beatings did Ive
take, and he what, internalized none of it?
ben_vulpes: but you know how it goes.
traders,
trade. hodlers, hodl. investors, what dat.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu:
to be fair, anyone who didn't liquidate a week before jobs' illness hit
the rags is a derp who got what
they deserved
trinque: you'd have
thought Ive was going
to be
the guy
ben_vulpes: 'omfg you mean
to
tell me
there's no centralized database of who owns what and owes who else which shares?'
trinque: been considering
the ideological reproduction
thing since recent genetics
threads (and rereading related
trilema)
ben_vulpes: hacker nyooz recently realized how brokerages add slack
to
the market,
twas a lulzy set of comments
mircea_popescu: "well...
the other guy died" aaaand
this is my problem how! i bought jobs stock not fucking wtf
this is.
mircea_popescu: "hey, it's still apple". bitch...
that is SO not apple...
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it occurs
to me, btw,
that
the scam whereby people who were holding jobs shares were converted
to cook shares is one of
the cruelest
things in nature.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: imagine if in a few years
the actual fucking chunks of metal are
the point of worship. "oh man,
that's
tech! who can make straight angles anymore!"
☟︎ ben_vulpes: nevertheless, i have good money
that says
these machines will be plentiful and cheap until
they are utter unobtainium.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure stan has all sorts of shade
to
throw
trinque: the minis are also nice
to have
trinque has several piles of
that hardware here
too
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: pardon me but
the side of your /what/?
mircea_popescu: in other lulz :
there's
this matte window
to
the side of my chicken. and
there's a gecko who now lives
there. but i mean
totally, its his window.
ben_vulpes: but
the experience is more
that of having blessed some random jews wandering in
the desert with
the secrets of hygiene
ben_vulpes: i mean
there's a whole
trumpet flare and clouds parting and everything sure
trinque imagines ben_vulpes standing atop a fixed shitter patriotically, like
the bum in mircea_popescu's parable
mircea_popescu: i understand you
though.
they're so boneheadedly retarded
they're offensive
to
the very concepts.
ben_vulpes: asks
the guy who developed a recreational habit of fixing other people's
toilets in
the most retarded corner of south america...
☟︎ ben_vulpes: if you don't own it, what
the fuck is
the point fixing it?
ben_vulpes: you can't spend all
that energy confronting her with her own mistakes, let her walk out, digest it, and
the next man benefit
mircea_popescu: "exothermic oxidation is productive". sure it is, if it happens in
the combustion chamber.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-19 23:43 mircea_popescu: it's not a bad
thing, not among people who love each other.
trinque: homeboy from san antonio needs
to pick a less retarded name
shinohai still remembers wtf'ing with mod6 over
the fact
their new, improved site had no way
to dump privkeys for nearly 2 months
shinohai: They are like blockchain.info where
the most important "upgrades" are cute animations
to
the UI
Framedragger: gdax looks
to have a sick animation on
the landing page, with forever-rising candles
shinohai: In Coinbase lulz "Customers who wish
to access both blockchains at
the
time of
the hard fork should withdraw
their BTC from GDAX"
mod6: so, let
the prototyping begin!
Framedragger: you basically deal with a continuous array; plus
the option
to be careful
to read/write at sector boundaries for i/o efficiency.
Framedragger: not at all! sure, you still rely on disk's firmware but
the degree of crapola-reliance is orders of magnitude less. *you do not deal with filesystem at all*.
Framedragger: not
that my word carries a lot of weight here but gotta say, alf's block storage idea (bypassing fs) makes a lotta sense (and is elegant, with defined complexity, etc.)
mircea_popescu: and for
that matter, who's
to say a simple move
to 64 bits doesn't resolve
the problem altogether. but anyway, i'm more making a point
than proposing a
technical solution.
Framedragger: afraid i didn't catch
this particular drift, sir
mircea_popescu: consider : IF we decide
to make megabyte large blocks, who says fat32 is inadequate
then ?
that 4gb has a lot
to do with
the size of a block.
Framedragger: sure. my internal alfatron says "may as well
test for
tape backup storage system viability"
though; surely it's inefficient
to
test *all*
things in a domain
that one is not optimistic
to begin with. but i see your rationale of course
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i don't recall being as pissed off with fat32 at any point
throughout
the 90s as i've regularly been hence.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: no, i know. but if we end up patching dumbass systems, we should consider
the whole field of dumbass systems. not just
the ones
that falsely promise
to work and
then fail
to work ; but also
the ones which honestly admit
their limits.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: oof, max fat32 size is 4gb, with a maximum of (to
the
tune of) hundreds of millions of files (less
than 1bn);
there's also exFAT of course, etc., but eugh
☟︎ mod6: Framedragger:
the stenographer role was proposed
to be an actual job for
the foundation, complete with pay and everything.
mod6: so a very exciting
time, as far as I'm concerned.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> also, we are not at wall : we saw ext4 ; did not see ext2 ; did not see reiserfs. << for sure. i
think we're just getting started baselining
these prototypes.
Framedragger: (yeah mircea_popescu afraid i won't have
time re.
those other
two
till quite a bit later)
mod6: i started working on it very briefly ... maybe 7-10 days in like ... december. but haven't
touched it since.
Framedragger: mod6: by steganographer, do you mean a way of linking
to chat lines relevant
to given project, or a way of automatically linking relevant chat lines (keywords), or a (flesh) user role? just curious
mod6: so
that might help. i might write some sort of API also where project admins can interact with
their projects without having
to use IRC.
mod6: tb0t eventually will be upgraded
to use
the new system.
mod6: any
ticketing
thing is as useful as you make it. it
takes effort
to remember
to keep it up and
to ~use~ it. any
thing we can do
to make
that a more automated process
though, is nice.
mod6: and we could
track
things easier instead of having
to have it be a formal role. but with
the new version, seperate projects can have different users, so for instance, if UCI wants a stenographer,
then
the project admin can just add
the steno
to
the UCI users
table. volla.
Framedragger: (current version records
the important
things including
trb work, so imho it's doing fine)
mod6: yeah,
there was
this intial idea of a 'stenographer'.. and I
think
that's what drove me
to just make
the
ticket system.
mod6: hopefully it'll be at least better
than
the first version, which is fine for now, but certainly could be better.
mod6: it's meant
to be project cutomizeable per project... with like
the
ticket codes, etc. i'm building out
the database now... and it's going well, just slowly.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-13 01:00 Framedragger should write some kind of simple
thingie which
takes (1) keyword and (2)
timestamp pairs as intervals, and produces a kind of wiki page for all given keywords. (2) can be amended later as needed. so
that
there'd be a page for gossipd without much effort at all
Framedragger: (btw since
there's so much different stuff happening i was considering doing something like
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-13#1481401 (and possibly using log.mkj.lt's multi-line-citation feature
to 'capture' different notes/projects) but obviously expanding
the
ticketing system in a consistent, proper way is
the way
to go)
☝︎ mod6: there are project admins, and project users... etc. i should add
the ability for rich or chained notes.
mod6: in
the new version it's setup different.
mod6: no, not a list of notes per
ticket in
the original version.
Framedragger: i guess having an easy way
to add new projects (or have a 'misc' parent but maybe
that's
too dirty) would help in
that it'd be easier
to record stuff, including
tasks not directly
tied
to
trb or V
Framedragger: mod6: fwiw i agree completely.
the key point here is (as you said) *noting it down* (including dead-ends). so yeah, afaict you're on
the very right
track here. i wonder, does
the current system need complex massaging
to be able
to
track
things like
that? i mean, you can add
tickets, but i guess no way for
them
to have a *list* of notes (per
ticket)
mod6: <+asciilifeform>
to n00bs i often recommend
to have an analogue scope also << are
these just a bit easer
to learn on
than
their digital counterparts?
mod6: So I'll be getting into
the
thick of
that very soon. Lot
to do
to get
trb-i going.
☟︎ mod6: I dont need a
ticket for
this, but man, I really gotta get into
the swing of Ada.
mod6: So we need some updated
tracking
to
that effort.
mod6: There are some other cool side projects going on now
too... such as
the wallet-cut effort.
mod6: Anyway, just as an example of side-projects
that need
tracking...