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The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: - I've passed out a few, not to all tenants though due to the baby being born on last rent cycle
asciilifeform: eveveryone please try to grasp why i suggest emulator. this gives a complete self-contained block of bits which reliably builds the apparatus. no external anything, ever.
asciilifeform: 'qemu' is simply a machine emulator (x86, mips, sparc, a few others) - we can use another if someone has a good reason to dislike qemu
jurov: well.. seems like we need to draft a roadmap
othernubs`: open a bash prompt and type node wallet.js or w/e
bounce: it's quite a lot useless if you're trying to build scripts with it, unless they're browser-based in some way
bounce: a workable api would be nice. the current js stuff is... er, open for improvement.
othernubs`: i don't think gui should be a priority, at all.
mike_c: charter ideas: 1) maintain a workable core with no shit in it. 2) specify bitcoin 3) write a new implementation because you can't polish a turd.
othernubs`: calling it a book seems to boorish at this point
Apocalyptic: that's a weird announcement to make...
mircea_popescu: what the fuck does it need a website for even.
mircea_popescu: especially a shitty one run in circles through featuritis swamp by idiots
othernubs`: a single distro shames us all
othernubs`: mircea_popescu> draft a charter, then it gets gpg signed and that's it ? i'd donate <<< me too
mircea_popescu: a there we go. cool!
mod6: but been a freebsd guy for a long time, helped out on a lot of various things.
mod6: oh a million years ago i created a port called 'destroy'
bounce: perhaps not a good idea to rely on them. then again, hosting a git repo isn't exactly difficult.
mircea_popescu: well once they actually get the charter signerd i suppose there's going to be a geethoob
mod6: i've done a fair amount of C++ in the past. a lot more C though, I must admit.
jurov: ok srs. mod6 is a C++ programmer? or do you have any?
TheNewDeal: I'll pledge a donation :D
mircea_popescu: jurov none of that, i'm thinking more of, have two co-chairs, then when one wants to go out they vote unanimously to add a third, and after 6 months the retiring one can leave.
mircea_popescu: draft a charter, then it gets gpg signed and that's it ? i'd donate
gribble: Error: 'Contributed' is not a valid integer.
mod6: I'll paste the entire thing, just a sec.
mircea_popescu: i am serious, there's just no way to run a web server w/o it.
mircea_popescu: it's thirty a day for crissakes
mircea_popescu: bounce but 1k ? it's like... anything is seen by a thousand people in a month.
empyex: mircea_popescu: Want a bash? http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=38 Or use a valid MPSIC!
bounce: them 'merkins really can't keep their fingers out of anything and they manage to fsck up everywhere. not a new observation, but it hasn't ceased to be painfully true either.
mircea_popescu: "339,192 US rank. This site reaches over 858 monthly people" << holy shit, it's not fucking possible that 1k people reading you on a monthly basis puts you in the top 300k sites on the internets.
mircea_popescu: i suppose it's a good filter for the killfile.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: On a side note, I've noticed Roger Ver's bitcoinstore is not...around anymore? << well it wasn't really making all that much.
BingoBoingo: bounce: He married a white girl is as far as I can tell.
bounce: not that that wouldn't have happened a bit later anyway, with the sharia-huggers
othernubs`: maybe i should submit a bitbet about the war measures act being enabled again
bounce: not everybody has the guts to walk in rod straight with a campaign hat instead of a helmet and going "I love the smell of napalm in the morning", you know.
mircea_popescu: for crying out loud. throwing like a girl, but for guns.
mircea_popescu: bounce even police tho. it's a basic fucking thing, what is this bullshit "i'ma lower my back in a crouch so as to reduce mobility and improve exposure"
bounce: dunno. police pretending to be militaree is all the rage now. has been for a while.
mthreat: mircea_popescu: http://imgur.com/a/QdiNV
mircea_popescu: what's a "police sweep"
othernubs`: first shot took down a canadian soldier at the nat'l war memorial
mircea_popescu: all they got is "How to Be a Devils Fan In Ottawa -- 2014-15 Edition" and "Tune in TONIGHT for "MAKERS: Women in War""
gribble: euronews (in English) - YouTube: <http://www.youtube.com/user/Euronews>; All comments on A Fresh Perspective On "Islamophobia" - YouTube: <https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=9-4AAc5y86s&page=2>; Toronto by Newsreel | culture | Torontoist: <http://www.youtube.com/redirect?q=http%3A%2F%2Ftorontoist.com%2F2014%2F04%2Ftoronto-by- (1 more message)
mircea_popescu: and in general, when little bitches are asking for a thrashing, it's a good idea to give them a thrasing.
mircea_popescu: mike_c because gavin wants a fork
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: ISIS invading, hell of a thing to wake up to.
mike_c: isn't somebody making a good alternative implementation? why take 0.5.3 as the b-a client.
mod6: so keep in mind that a lot of these packages got pulled successfully the first time. this is the second running after i bumped up the scrollback limit on the term:
bounce: a list of CVEs and other security problems in bitcoin would be useful
mod6: and what if you already have a private key that you'd like to import from cold storage? how would you send coins to new said address?
Apocalyptic: it may be handy to generate a private key outside of the bitcoind mecanism
assbot: A summary of changes to Bitcoin since 0.3.21
othernubs`: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html#fnr.20 << thanks for this write up, this would def. need to be patched in. <<< agreed, great writeup, altho evidence seems to point to 0.6.3 being the right choice ☟︎
mod6: created a vm of deb 6.0.10 or w/e and then just tried to run it directly without doing anything else.
mod6: so thought maybe it left off sudo because I created a root account. not sure.
mod6: me too, that threw me off. but maybe i did something silly with the install by creating a root account? i'm not super clued on deb... but it asked me to make a root account first, then a user account. so that was kinda bizzare to me.
ben_vulpes: mod6: plenty of sense. i was a little startled to see that your debian dist didn't come with sudo.
Apocalyptic: which is a considerable amount of work
mod6: when testing this, i don't wanna to "hack" a bunch of stuff together. i'd like to do it in a linear manner so seeing what was required is simple. because I'm sure that I can just start pulling down packages on my own and get it to work. just was trying to keep it simple.
ben_vulpes: Apocalyptic: i have to clear up that it's not a *commit* summary but a changelog summary.
Apocalyptic: ben_vulpes, that's a helpful commit summary, well done
mod6: so yeah, maybe .5.3 is enough with a few patches added in like your notes say. good work!
assbot: A summary of changes to Bitcoin since 0.3.21
mod6: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/20_a-summary-of-changes-to-bitcoin-since-0321.html#fnr.20 << thanks for this write up, this would def. need to be patched in.
othernubs`: actually on the fence about illustrating the entire thing, with a slight lean towards 'yes'
Apocalyptic: 1 page doesn't sound like a big deal
othernubs`: jurov, i'm going the other way. make it a glorious proclamation
othernubs` notices that page 1 of the bookof bitcoin will be the entire contents of a file named COPYING
othernubs`: websites are a dice-roll but xchat and a couple terminal windows = no sweat
asciilifeform: jurov: i almost think that scamatron was built as a deliberate attempt at personal insult for me
othernubs`: ...keyboard issues, this xo-1 is actually a quite capable irc machine
bounce: wants to change the world. picks sucky venue to promote broken website. makes a splash, it does.
bounce: medium.com is such a craphole. like wired, but pessimised for the tablet.
bounce: I don't care if maladjusted angry youths want to run away and make trouble in a war zone. I do care if they come back, recruit some more kids (to do the same), cause trouble, shoot some jews, what have you.
bounce: AIUI they potted up their north sea gas proceeds, instead of giving it all away to the unwashed masses. gives them a bit of playroom.
mircea_popescu: On Sunday, the Swedish media wound itself into a tizzy over a photograph of a man dressed in black wading into the water somewhere in the archipelago. The security services were dispatched to find the man, who turned out to be a pensioner named Ove, out doing some fishing. "I'm no spy, I'm a pensioner," he told Expressen. "You can tell that it's me [in the photo] by my straight jeans, and I usually have a backpack on."
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically to drive miners out, <<< except miners don't go in and out with the price. the market is amortisation driven, they have the gear and have to use it, so they'll use it.
mircea_popescu: cazalla haha that's a point.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: it's completely wild to see how much the bitcoin network hashrate fluctuates. << you understand those aren't directly measured, but more like calculated after the fact ? it's normal variance, you're trying to guess how many times a coin is tossed by how many heads you see. well... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: there's at least half a dozen of various derp groups, and they're all wasting oxygen & public moneyz.
mircea_popescu: but you're not getting a report. nor is congress.
mircea_popescu: people may exchange info as to how much switching happens and where and how, on a "need to operate network" basis.
thickasthieves: so you think itll all just be a total mystery forever
thickasthieves: <+mircea_popescu> being a miner is notoriously a "nobody's business" type of affair. there's nothing to be gained really. /// well, what if we picture the future 10 years out? are representatives of large hash more communicative? or is there 'political' position on bitcoin technicals more known?
mircea_popescu: being a miner is notoriously a "nobody's business" type of affair. there's nothing to be gained really.
mircea_popescu: hard to verify miners, easy to get a bunch of derps that love to talk. but yes, it would be.
thickasthieves: <+othernubs`> let's get some big miners to give up their secret sauce /// yknow a survey of large miners' and pools' sentiment on state of bitcoin dev, what versions they use, etc would be a great qntra article
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no dude, it's a pos libtard venue astroturfing the shit out of the internet.
mircea_popescu: medium is a turdy pos on the level of coindesk.
ben_vulpes: A REASONABLY AFFORDABLE POSSIBLITY
ben_vulpes: using their considerable expertise in implementing a just-in-time (JIT) compiled version of the Ethereum virtual machine and making computationally-complex contracts a reasonably affordable possibility
ben_vulpes: plus a screwdriver. maybe.
ben_vulpes: looks like i could get it open in about a minute with a decent vise
pete_dushenski: "perfect, we have a deal, here's your aircraft carrier."
ben_vulpes: this suggests a novel attack vector: depress price strategically to drive miners out, drop large amounts of hashpower to rewrite blockchain.
pete_dushenski: i haven't tried their other equipment but it's priced to a point where i certainly have high expectations