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phf: who-calls ~what~? ~when~? why am i even asking
that question? we're discussing a
tool outside of specific problem, which is precisely "harmful habits" manifestation
phf: but otherwise i use whatever. it's sort of like, if you don't have a hammer, you don't go pounding nails when you have nothing btter
to do
phf: i sometimes load it
to do a macro
transform on a particularly gnarly file
phf: btcbase still runs on slime, but it's a 30 line el file
that lives in
the repo itself.
☟︎ phf: asciilifeform: with nothing,
that's
the beauty of it.
mircea_popescu: i have nfi why regrets - noun wouldn't work in a language where regrets - verb in perfective aspect works out of
the box and without glue. in romanian it needs glue
to work, and you can say "hey, no glue for noun so you can't do
that!"
mircea_popescu: it doesn't really work in romanian. i mean, a common honorific for
the deceased is "regretatul" ie,
the regretted. but
that's about as far as
that goes.
mircea_popescu: that i'd rather he had a sane woman
to
take him
to
the hospital.
mircea_popescu: hence all
the "uncharted lands" references all
the
time.
mircea_popescu: (though it's a welcome exercise, in passing,
to consider HOW would you rigurously prove an apple doesn't cure sun eclipse.)
a111: Logged on 2017-03-21 00:49 mircea_popescu: i know some clits i don't mind pushing 707
times.
mircea_popescu: in practice
though,
this
theoretical distinction carries little importance.
mircea_popescu: ie, it's one
thing
to
tell yokel your apple's a mango, it's another
thing
to claim your apple cures sun eclypse.
mircea_popescu: anyway,
the difference between imponade and
the idf is
that
the imponade relies on failure of
those imponed upon
to evaluate ; whereas
the idf relies on
the fundamental problem of
the cost of evaluation -- sometimes it's huge.
mircea_popescu: You may, and some do, complain
that
there is no super-compact expression of some particular problems, but what you completely miss is
that
the _penalty_ for
thinking "outside of
the box" or outside of
the "intended" uses of
the language is _also_ absent.
mircea_popescu: like
the lemonade of
the proverbial lemonade stand
that's always used as example in
theoretical economics.
mircea_popescu: "we have engineers doing
things|! " "What ?" "we don't actually know." "here's some money
then."
mircea_popescu: and
the hope is
that who knows, maybe
the dorks come back with some idf. in any case, up until
they return,
the
thread can be deemed as idf as-is.
mircea_popescu: it's exactly like nightmare fuel in media. a substance
that makes people with money and no clue imagine happy
thoughts.
mircea_popescu: it all relies on
the almighthy IDF. investor dream fuel. dja know what
that is ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you know what is
the real because
there ?
ben_vulpes: because "go back
to your fucking cubicle and file a purchase request for seven more servers"
ben_vulpes: this is a subset of
the "programmers are bad at cost/benefit evaluation"
thread
mircea_popescu: i wish someone here made a garage band so i could write lyrics for
them.
mircea_popescu: come along now an' let's play
that strange game where errything's a key!
phf: this whole "literate" point is not so much about specific
technology, as it is about rebalancing
the
tree from
the root, so
to speak, wherein it's sometimes ok
to push
the key 70
times
mircea_popescu: but rare indeed is
the computerhead who will sit down and compare
the
time "improvement"
takes
to implement CORRECTLY, AND MAINTAIN ; vs
the
time it actually saves.
mircea_popescu: there is
this very specific failure mode whereby computerists who for naive reasons decide "they don't play computer games" end up game-ifying
their daily life. it is way
the fuck better
to level up a warlock
than
to dick around "saving"
typing and growing a crop of
tomatoes on your balcony.
phf: well, i realized
that environment micro optimizations are mostly a waste of
time, and
that something like emacs is one of
the worst offenders.
☟︎ phf: i've been reflecting on
the implications of
that point with one of
the effects
that i stopped using emacs (a while ago).
mircea_popescu: ot his empanadas as well as open invite from waitress who's apparently been waiting for moths for
the one
time mp is not with cunt in
tow.
mircea_popescu: in
the same vein : new dork (at least i've not seen him before) with apparent delusions of "management" at place i normally frequent. i
tell him
to bring me a dozen empanadas para llevar. he... didn't understand, at first,
then on second pass
told me
to go
to "the different counter",
then got invited
to go search for his mother's cunt, which rendered him apoplectic. /me went
to other place down
the street he also frequents, g
mircea_popescu: redundancy ftw, it's so luxurious. who
the fuck else has shit like
this, not even lizard captains.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 23:27 lulcoinz: my understanding is
this group doesn't really support segwit or BU
jhvh1: mircea_popescu:
The operation succeeded.
ben_vulpes: well if you muck about in
the dumps of civilization a rad suit is probably a good idea
ben_vulpes: i go yell at whoever sent me
that garbage
ben_vulpes: only because you've already read
the fucking manual!
shinohai: It's far better
than Norton commander was imho
shinohai also likes how mc lets you browse contents of
tar.gz archives before unpacking ....
ben_vulpes: once i have a grasp on sentences, grammar, i can probably get pronounciation with a few hours of
teevee
ben_vulpes: i kind of don't care how
to pronounce
the shit, reading far more important
to me now
ben_vulpes: oh come now, just switch over
to evil-mode
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: no, not 'translit',
translate
ben_vulpes: i
thought
that was like a file browser or some such
shinohai goes
to work fiddling with jhvh1
to add
this functionality
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: interlinear latin
translations
a111: Logged on 2017-03-20 23:17 ben_vulpes: unrelatedly, is
there a "nodictionaries" for russian?
lulcoinz: do you guys have good doc on getting into
the wot etc