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asciilifeform: i no longer try to actively persuade folx 'it oughta be Like So!' , at this point it is up to phf , mircea_popescu , diana_coman , et al, folx who very actively work on multi-author projects , to determine a Troo Vtron
asciilifeform: when i was actively trbing, i handled 'want p1 + p2 + ... p_n ' by hand-copy and producing p_n+1
phf: asciilifeform: i didn't say barf, but if you were to remove, say, makefiles, press to malleus_mikehearnificarum, you lose mod6_der_high_low_s
phf: mircea_popescu: i don't agree that the "in the sense" is correct. trb patchset relied on pressing the lateral trees behavior up until recent nailing down of graph, which was a result of elaboration from clearer understanding. i think the understanding of v has evolved, and things of which there was much uncertainty and hand waving in the past are now much more obvious. i don't think it's the case that "the behavior was always that way" in an accidental
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu proposed once an algo where , for a patch to count as a Troo Patch, it must modify a chronicle.txt (along these lines)
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 22:09 mod6: was thinking, that if we changed up the parameterization of v, could maybe resolve the multiple leaves thing. imagine http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png without the 'j.vpathch', if one wanted to press both trees, maybe could tell v to : `./v.pl p v outputdir i.vpatch d.vpatch`
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-30#1791427 << i proposed this at one point, and mircea_popescu (imho correctly) barfed, and one of the reasons was that it makes pressing irreversible (or at least reverse-walking becomes np-hard) ☝︎
mod6: was thinking, that if we changed up the parameterization of v, could maybe resolve the multiple leaves thing. imagine http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png without the 'j.vpathch', if one wanted to press both trees, maybe could tell v to : `./v.pl p v outputdir i.vpatch d.vpatch` ☟︎
mod6: here's the graph: http://www.mod6.net/sps2_dag.png
mod6: http://www.mod6.net/sps_dag.png http://www.mod6.net/sps2/
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 20:47 phf: the retrospectively unpleasant part of this approach is patching vdiff's C, which, after writing a bunch of Ada, is torture. i believe diana_coman had similar experience
phf: the retrospectively unpleasant part of this approach is patching vdiff's C, which, after writing a bunch of Ada, is torture. i believe diana_coman had similar experience ☟︎
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> "qntra : under the deluge of tit bits, website-exchanges btc price keeps falling" lmao << :D
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 22:49 mircea_popescu: phf so basically this is cropping down nicely after all. proper vpatch (fixing mod6 's bane, the empty dir thing) + proper vdiff (hash-based preprocessing of rename/move + proper use of @@...@@ + keccak hashing).
phf: mircea_popescu: the conversation from which you quote the money shot happens in the context of file renames, the part where you call upon me quotes keccak specifically, elsewhere you re-enumerate the list of what looks like target items, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751799 ☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-30 18:36 mircea_popescu: reason i even did things in this manner is because it's not clear to me why it was contentious or whether the contention was resolved.
mircea_popescu: Dec 14 14:07:00 <mircea_popescu> maybe he bites the bullet and makes special files. or who the hell knows. i'm curious.
mircea_popescu: Dec 14 14:06:42 <mircea_popescu> i'm letting him contribute, what. he understands what the problems are.
mircea_popescu: Dec 14 14:00:23 <asciilifeform> yea but mircea_popescu demanded sane namespace behaviour
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2017-12-06 22:38 mircea_popescu: if we start fucking with vdiff, this is the first mover.
phf: mircea_popescu: right, around the time when you made that mothballed comment did i get cued into the idea that you wanted me to implement it.
phf: mircea_popescu: i've seen that problem before, but i haven't tried solving it myself yet, because i've not ran into it. i've not had a chance to attempt spyke's problem/solution yet
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 15:00 spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl, the edges in teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in the nodes (the patches). so since there are no patches changing the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic to the current design of v).
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:53 mircea_popescu: is this deliberate or oversight phf ?
a111: Logged on 2018-03-30 17:43 mircea_popescu: phf http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321679
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (btw, vice is SO butthurt at "fashwave" it's something else. how fucktarded do these shriveled up, useless cunts who thought they can "become writers" need to be not to realise that the only thing they're doing is fanning teh fire ? aaanyways) << It's like bull baiting, but with babushkas
mircea_popescu: phf mp has the advantage of a full house. but anyway, yes, very much so, "twitter is the secret treefort mom knows about ; and then discord is the secret basement where https://www.reddit.com/r/stupidslutsclub/comments/87421g/do_you_know_where_your_daughters_are/ "
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 23:39 mircea_popescu: i suspect by now "autistic" is the equivalent of the 1800s "friend". "one of ours" as opposed to "one of theirs"
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:53 mircea_popescu: is this deliberate or oversight phf ?
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-30 06:18 ben_vulpes: douchebag: do you know where it's traded?
ave1: and another typo (i'm sorry) -> diana_coman
ave1: diana_comon, Yes, I read the test and the code and your text (also played with the test a little). So I was a little suprised that rsa_oaep_encrypt used mpi code. I will write an alternative.
diana_coman: to answer your question directly though: 1. it certainly could - rsa_oaep_encrypt is just a wrapper so it's meant more as an example of using all the stuff together rather than a standard: I'd expect that there would be other/different wrappers, made to suit specific uses
ave1: diana_coman: could the input parameter of rsa_oaep_encrypt be a character array? it is now an MPI this will discard any leading zero's of a message an exclude binary stream/file encryption. (same goes for decrypt)
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-23 04:27 mircea_popescu: im starting to understand that "the opposite of talking is not listening, the opposite of talking is waiting for your turn" quip may have been adequate in the early postmodern stage ; but by now it's truly a case of "work efficiency is most work with least read." chucka wins in the end.
douchebag: ben_vulpes: How much are qntra shares worth at the moment?
douchebag: mircea_popescu: A woman is interested in the tits offer, but she's morbidly obese
douchebag: mircea_popescu: I have a girl but she is wondering if she's allowed to wear sunglasses ☟︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 17:23 mircea_popescu: so : in order to prevent walking their db, fetlife DID NOT, ~~~STILL~~~ implement the obviously correct method described for free by moi, back in http://trilema.com/2015/fetlife-the-meat-market/#comment-112222
douchebag: mircea_popescu: Hey I was wondering, I know a shit ton of prostitutes - do I get 0.02 in exchange for their tit pics?
trinque: ben_vulpes: lol coals. I paid the damned thing before I even saw.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, what would the other 2 holes of the 2x2 matrix look like , and has anyone filled'em ?
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i don't understand the point in re male regulation of the copulation rate
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes this is a necessary problem of "unpumped tanks". sulphur compounds sort themselves to the bottom.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes consider the relationship to "promiscuity" ; and the notions of male-regulation of copulation rate. it's one of the best standards to sort "mass movements", much like the two metal bars slowly growing apart are the best standard to sort eggs.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i think alt-right is more a continuation of "straightedge" 90s fashion than any kind of 1950s wasplandia.
douchebag: Too bad I don't have a bullwhip like mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc ben_vulpes posted a cost postmortem ( recall tho that he 'won' the customs lottery, cost double )
trinque: ben_vulpes: can I still get that cost breakdown for courier service? maybe I want to try keistering something else down to bbstan at a later date.
deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 3
deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 2
mod6: It wasn't lost in transit, when ben_vulpes was at the airport, he had his wife come and pick it up from there to 'cut-weight'. It's safe in his care.
mod6: So here I am writing up the SoBA, looking for a log reference to where either I or ben_vulpes said that only *one* of The Foundation's Two (newly bought servers for Pizarro racking) made it down there.
douchebag: mircea_popescu: You ready to see some more tits? I've had a number of women who were inquring about the offer
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes they have these favela-like things here ("hatillo 1 through hatillo 30 or some shit). you couldn't believe what traffic jams they create.
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Or for low margin delivery businesses
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: moar of a 'libc' then kernel
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:43 mircea_popescu: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema?d=2018-3-29#321590 << so basically the way i'm interpreting what you're saying is, "there's no practical way to have no c library on a c system ; but if you want just the init and end that can be done quite minimalistically and forgetaboutit."
asciilifeform: hey mircea_popescu , what's the last ver of php that worx with mp's wp ?
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER, and this is the gem : their "lock out" looks to the script like this : <html><body>You are being <a href="https://fetlife.com/locked_out?user_id=????????">redirected</a>.</body></html>
asciilifeform: ( problem is what tends to happen in the heads of people who buy in. as further discussed in old thread on ben_vulpes's www, http://cascadianhacker.com/perceived-vs-actual-barriers-to-homeownership-for-young-adults/comment-page-1#comment-174 )
asciilifeform: trying to 'outsmart the casino' tends to end in tears, ben_vulpes
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: hue, buying paper that can be sold to other chumps
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes buying real estate in the reich without an army ? ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-29 14:32 mircea_popescu: let's use the pieces on the table : you just were 10x more effective than historical record because "being able to yell at them via voice chat when they're being retarded". i'm, literally, a further degree of magnitude more effectual, and literally because whipping if retarded. which makes me not have the "girl problems" ~everyone else has.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> anyway, whadda ya think mod6 , can we get him back to positive rating ? << aha, let's try this again.
spyked: the way I understood it from reading v.pl, the edges in teh graph are established based on changes introduced by each hunk in the nodes (the patches). so since there are no patches changing the files in vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch, it's a leaf (and this, if I understand correctly, is intrinsic to the current design of v).
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 21:08 spyked: my v-fu really leaves to be desired. so: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790147 <-- patch: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/patches/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch and seal: http://lucian.mogosanu.ro/v/seals/vdiff_lib_xalloc_static_xnmalloc.vpatch.spyked.sig --> so I based those on vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc (parent of vdiff_keccak in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools ) and while the patch verifies, it doesn't show up in my
spyked: mircea_popescu, taking the graph in http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=vtools <-- the patch at http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790176 is a descendant of vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc, but since it has no direct relation to, say vdiff_keccak (there are no changes from the former to the latter), it will lie on a separate branch starting from vdiff_fixes_newline_gcc. at least that's what the output from ☝︎
mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-03-29 00:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they're rank nonsense, "how to take a 95% productivity hit by everything taking longer and using a blocking channel"
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: Sent 6 hours and 18 minutes ago: <ave1> re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS.
spyked: anyway, I understand why this happens (it wouldn't make sense to press e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/vdiff_sha_fixes_newline_gcc and http://btcbase.org/patches/vtools-vpatch in the same path), but thought I'd report it.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !Qlater tell mircea_popescu re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-03-28 20:18 mircea_popescu: this is pretty terrible altogether. ave1 you got a moment ? how close is alf's "quite close" ?
ave1: !~later tell mircea_popescu re: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-03-28#1790127, not close at all. I do have a script to make a musl C library based ada (and one with a minimal Ada library). No C library only makes sense for systems without an OS. ☝︎
mod6: mircea_popescu: Quite a parade! Who's next?
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mircea_popescu: incidentally BingoBoingo ben_vulpes asciilifeform : any of you read the output of uruguay's most famous (slash only) intellectual, the supposed comte de lautremont ?
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la: I'm gunna go to bed now it's late and I have class T_T