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asciilifeform: i simply used the item that was known to work solidly w/ phuctor, when wrote the logger, was all.
asciilifeform considers 'make things go with oldest/smallest possib. spittoon' a Right Thing in general case
diana_coman: asciilifeform: the extension pg_trgm thingies does exist; it's the loading that is different
asciilifeform: afaik trigraphic index dun exist pre-9 -- but could be wrong
diana_coman: anyways, back to twisting its arms.
diana_coman: create extension was introduced in 9; so earlier versions will puke there.
asciilifeform: the only even vaguely version-sensitive knob is the search index
diana_coman: asciilifeform: myeah, 8 here; and no "create extension" so had to change the scripts to load the thing
lobbes: haven't tried on any other versions yet
lobbes used 9.4 on testbed
asciilifeform: diana_coman: oughta work with 9 and 10, not tried others
diana_coman: asciilifeform, lobbes fwiw I'm having additional fun due to older versions of postgresql (and last time I used any postgresql was > 12 years ago + never digged it all that much, ffs)
asciilifeform: ( normally it goes at 0hrs nyc time )
asciilifeform: both lobbes and diana_coman , lemme know when yer ready to sync, i'ma manually refresh the db dump
asciilifeform: ^ or lobbes , if lobbes gets to finish line 1st
asciilifeform: diana_coman: also imho it'd be neat if you wrote about how built the mirror, nitpicks, etc. for n00bz. ( i did not have time to write a pedantic cookbook, and as you can see even the readme had mistakes )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931889 << diana_coman this is so, i found recently when making mirror . feel free to submit a patch to amend the readme, otherwise it'll go in my next one.
lobbes is determined to beat diana_coman to getting the 2nd logger online
lobbes: In other news, I'm emerging a LAMP stack on my new server. Once complete I'll start futzing with getting the logotron stood up
lobbes: I did reach back out to one of the helpful 50 yo subs I talked to though; she actually suggested meeting for coffee sometime, to which I said I'd love to. Hopefully will prove to be a pleasant and educational meeting
lobbes: "This "boy meets girl, they adultify each other" model is pure halucinatoria, the very substance of delirium and psychosis. It does not exist, nor ever has existed, nor ever will exist in reality." << sheesh, I've seen that model before
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:07:52 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931717 << that's exactly how that goes : as the harem ages, the focus naturally moves from business to education,
lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931835 << that was an educational footnote,ty. Also a good reminder that I am still in 'dirt' status, and to not let any of the cannibals out there try and lead me back into pretense
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-17 18:09:22 trinque: two different things; he's talking about the shell tool, and you're talking about the sql command
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell trinque didja ever post a arm64 cuntoo ?
BingoBoingo: AHA, tyvm
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i'ma weld the support nuts to the pedestal, this time, nomoar fiddlings in hotel room.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: ty
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile rk (16) + heat sinks bought. 1st major chunk of the new crate. 670 ($) . ( still need cabling, ps , the ssd's, and naturally to assemble. )
BingoBoingo: In local news, don't skimp on the quicklime https://www.sudestada.com.uy/articleId__1a7440e0-0947-439f-9437-327a3cb95b6e/10893/Detalle-de-Noticia
asciilifeform: meanwhile, asciilifeform realized that can use standard 1u atx ps, w/ 'breakout board' , to get the req'd 20A 5v + 1A 12v.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'm working on organizing a break down of the situation. It's a very map-heavy exercise
asciilifeform: annoyingly , they all run on 12v, so can't use single-output 5v high current thing like i was initially planning, for the entire thing
asciilifeform: ( 1 hole is taken up by the exit cable )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: meanwhile i found a fitting GB switch. 1u plant will thereby house 15 rk .
snsabot: asciilifeform: time since my last reconnect : 13d 1h 44m
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 09:54:18 asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931856 << aint catastrophically burning, troo; but it does block import of pre-'dragon' log until fixed (and, current log links may in fact slowly break as machine clock drifts )
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931861 << ought add, it will also create strong headache when the other bots stand up. none of the links will be guaranteed portable b/w bots , even if pains are taken to sync clocks. they drift.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:18:37 mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931745 << absolutely. i always suspected the "ease them in" approach as practiced ~everywhere is just fucking stupid.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931846 << ameritards wrote books where all examples given in translit ! moar or less guaranteeing that whoever studies from these, can only parrot -- and poorly, the phonemes dun correspond to the eng ones ( tho funnily enuff they mostly exist in ru )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:19:07 mircea_popescu: but i lack ammo, as i don't japanese myself. (the naked girl in snow, she spent 10 years of her life trying to get to the bottom o fthat pile, with mixed success)
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931848 << this character mentioned 4 or 5 times recently... but does it have a name ? ( i admit, when 1st saw picture, assumed it was a young photo-shy hanbot )
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-29 03:37:54 mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands.
asciilifeform: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-29#1931856 << aint catastrophically burning, troo; but it does block import of pre-'dragon' log until fixed (and, current log links may in fact slowly break as machine clock drifts )
trinque: various "block explorers" show that one as shipped. afaik all have.
mircea_popescu: apparently the prev one also
mircea_popescu: dun have to be solved today, we'll live for quite a while as it stands.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-27 11:18:24 mircea_popescu: let this sit for a little we think more of it.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 21:35:52 asciilifeform: i'ma wait for mircea_popescu to wake up and see what he thinks before changing proggy. and whoknows, maybe we both missed sumthing.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 21:20:29 trinque: heh, I can go hankier. you could instead have a server-side rewrite rule that 301 redirects from / to #
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931769 << but if you redirect both you end up with endless redirect, and if you only redirect one either the server doesn't know what link is sought or the client doesn't scroll to the desired position.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 21:18:34 trinque: willing to use a minimal amount of JS?
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931765 << let's not js anymoar, experince shows it's never the right answer
mircea_popescu: but i lack ammo, as i don't japanese myself. (the naked girl in snow, she spent 10 years of her life trying to get to the bottom o fthat pile, with mixed success)
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931745 << absolutely. i always suspected the "ease them in" approach as practiced ~everywhere is just fucking stupid.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 20:17:11 asciilifeform: interestingly, the americans, who colonized and subjugated jp, to this day produced ~0 usable lit re the lang. ~all of asciilifeform's working materials -- from su.
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931730 << ustards very much ottoman/manchuko sorta "monkey accidentally came on top of man, drives decay" sorta "invader". fundamentally sterile inferior foreigner kinda occupation.
mircea_popescu: n "find allies" and "break down the priviledge"... the intellectual socioeconomy of ustarded morons is quite well understood by now.)
mircea_popescu: so then she picks the garbage pile the rooster sits on, calls it aifl tower and tells all her ingroup. cuz right, it makes sense, rooster ? gaelic cock ? it's even kinda shaped similarily! then through the "beauty" of the internet her stupid fucking son is going to pester dictionary writers to "be inclusive" and treat the eiffel tower ~AS A CLASS~ rather than as an item, and discuss "other examples" in the first stage, the
mircea_popescu: gly bumps on her chest are her boobs! like she's seen in the hotter older girls with real boobage.
mircea_popescu: (and, for completeness, i find the misrepresentation thereof as "ethical feeling" as displayed in ustarded tradition from carnegie to buffett ~particularly~ galling. it is EXACTLY iliterate huswife hearing on the radio them paris folk have dat aifl towers and going about her courtyard to identify "what could be that them aifl tower in here". cuz everything has one, right, she knows, like when she was a little girl, those u
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 04:01:43 mp_en_viaje: 2) i never made money, i always made power. the money was coincidental. i never made all the money there was to make or could. nor did i ever give much of a shit, i'm utterly not constructive, a world of nothing but mp will burn down.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 19:55:35 lobbes: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931666 << Thank you. I was thinking this was the way to go as most of the folx giving me the best advice at those meetings (and online for that matter) were, in fact, older subbie girls near their 50s, followed by the 'old guard' owners.
mircea_popescu: so in practical, male, power-constructed terms, however you wish to call this : if you fail to make good because you spent all your resources hailing twennysomethings, that's a failure of education (ie, blame the parents, shoulda told you better), but if you fail to make it because couldn't find support in the old guard, well, that's the plain failure to thrive (blame self).
a111: Logged on 2015-02-21 01:19 mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
mircea_popescu: meaning from seeking power to seeking potential (the reagent / driver is the marginal disutility of money, rather than simple sclerosis, to be clear). ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931717 << that's exactly how that goes : as the harem ages, the focus naturally moves from business to education,
mircea_popescu: (i'm pretty sure they would by specific request)
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 19:59:18 lobbes: incidentally, it may be time I join the rotaku club. Good % of Trilema that I can't even begin to read
mircea_popescu: http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931721 << well, or maybe some of the rotakus in attendance take pity on the inquisitve minds wanting to know and trasnlate some
asciilifeform: hrm did i break that link..?
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-09 17:36:55 mircea_popescu: earlier stopped at gelateria. nicely furnished. had no table service and only paper cups. ONE SIZE. no plates, no nothing.
asciilifeform: btw note, my logotron already knows how to generate colouration on serv end
asciilifeform: ( for folx not following in depth -- fleanode does not emit timestamps; they come from local machine where a given logotron ran when it logged a line )
asciilifeform: but deedbot dun need to go in realtime, unlike logotron.
asciilifeform: trinque: re clocks, at one time mircea_popescu suggested to use trb block as clock. but imho is of very limited use as clock, cuz not guaranteed to advance in any given interval.
asciilifeform: ( note, they can still be displayed in calendarized pages , as now )
asciilifeform: i suggested in orig thrd, to throw out the date from url. lessee what mircea_popescu thinks.
asciilifeform: my present take on all of this : it ~is~ possible for loggers to agree on ~order~ of lines ( albeit in corner cases, difficult ). however it is not possible for them to properly agree re absolute time. ( and in fact the timestamps in the imported logs are all over the place )
asciilifeform: ( should we even have it in the links..? not as if quoting bot doesn't spew the date when quoting )
asciilifeform: $date would be unused by the parser, while still being correct in all newly-emitted links
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-28 21:30:38 trinque: how? you'd have /log/$channel/$date/$canonicalId and use the latter for line lookup, and the penultimate for paging
asciilifeform: so seems like best formulation so far is http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log/trilema/2019-08-28#1931788 plus the proggy feeds client always 301 to the above with #x appended .
asciilifeform wrote proggy to be reasonably agnostic of frontend
asciilifeform: i've been puzzling over this item but made 0 useful fwd motion yet.
asciilifeform: ty trinque
trinque: turns out I'm quite tired. I think the above is probably the cleanest solution. will think moar and rejoin thread
trinque: so to start from scratch:
asciilifeform: i'ma wait for mircea_popescu to wake up and see what he thinks before changing proggy. and whoknows, maybe we both missed sumthing.
asciilifeform: seems like there is no clean pill, only decision of where we can move the dirt.
asciilifeform: so #'s can be sent ~to~ client ? that's possibly working pill
trinque: yeah, can 301 redirec them to a URL which includes the anchor for the line they requested
asciilifeform: it's headache, but as i understand the shitsoup standard offers no clean knob for it
asciilifeform: trinque: above seems to be exactly what i suggested. but as i understand will also need #x or such, to scroll to line
trinque: yep, so I retract the UUID proposal.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-08-10 10:25:59 asciilifeform: when wrote 1st draft of logotron, i made mistake of sorting ~by time~, ended up with soup displayed
trinque: how? you'd have /log/$channel/$date/$canonicalId and use the latter for line lookup, and the penultimate for paging
asciilifeform: trinque: this would simply throw the problem into the lap of people trying to make own loggers that sync with mine.
trinque: isn't the former already contemplated?