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mircea_popescu: feel safe all you want, and maybe you never get to matter enough to find out better.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you're basically falling fore the "shared hosting" bit
mircea_popescu: they just take off the thing upstream. which IS six figures.
mircea_popescu: yes, they can. they can send you a trillion packets in fifteen minutes.
mircea_popescu: as decent as it gets = 500x line saturation three hops upstream.
mircea_popescu: everything that gives idiots voice is the avatar of evil.
mircea_popescu: decimation udp is widely deployed in the hands of idiots.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i might. atm not really a big enough deal, whatever, some people can't read trilema for half a day or w/e. but we were discussing the general point.
mircea_popescu: decimation yes, unfortunately, yhet another advantage for shithole cloud. "hey, we drop udp at least". exactly the good cop bad cop alf was proposing. but i am not moving to fuckingf cloud, and im not using fucking cloudflare and so fucking om.
mircea_popescu: no more udp => no more dns, no more ntp. win of all fucking time, i'd pay to see this happen tomorrow.
mircea_popescu: paint my nails and call me mary what the fuck is this.
mircea_popescu: what, jam tomorrow, maybe one day ima get gossipd over udp, perhaps, who knows ? meanwhile half the remaining usg online is BASED, and requires udp to survive at all ?
mircea_popescu: i find it kinda curious that asciilifeform and decimation can at the same time hold the discussion of political time we had recently in mind, and ALSO think breaking udp, or doing away with ntp is a bad idea.
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i still wish udp died, and with it all the "Services" it provides. starting with dns, ntp and come to think about it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ftr, i am noit proposing orphan-block TCP is any better. shouldreally be TCP/OB
mircea_popescu: ima see gossipd alright. atm, the infrastructure is not the problem.
mircea_popescu: in any case : if it were the rule that udp gets dropped universally, i wouldn't have to have above convo with provider.
mircea_popescu: you maybe think about the theory of datagrams once a week.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform stop being theoretical on me. sure same load, not same amplification available.
mircea_popescu: decimation any time you wanna try processing 2-5mps let me know.
mircea_popescu: getting EVERYONE to entirely drop udp as a matter of policy would be a huge gain for me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the sort of machine that currently goes down is well i nthe six figure range.
mircea_popescu: me to isp "turn off fucking udp altogether, it's stupid" isp to me "you'll have toi buy the trunk"
mircea_popescu: dude get out srsly. i had dedicated machinery go down because random muppet + udp.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you said yourself it's easier to filter!
mircea_popescu: what the usg does or doesn't do, wants or doesn't want, etc is irrelevant to everything, usg included.
mircea_popescu: either provide it the sort of world it requires or visit its grave.
mircea_popescu: udp is braindamaged in that it requires a certain sort of world.
mircea_popescu: dude srsly. the fact that jews favour marriage is no argument pro or against.
mircea_popescu: and speaking of udp : fucking dns definitely must go away. stupidest kludge o nthe whole internet.
mircea_popescu: lobbes can you discern if he has a point, does the cache get 0'd out if it looks at a zero feed ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what's "back" when you don't keep time yo.
mircea_popescu: ok, so could it be that the lobbesbot sees new dates decides new articles ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so the rss feed is exactly identical pre and post restart. how would the bot know something changed then
mircea_popescu: does your restart fuck up the rss feed, such as by altering the dates it displays ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so if i restart trilema, it doesn't pop them out again
mircea_popescu: just as soon as the economics make sense, your x86 nemesis is gone. two years, tops.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform consider how rapidly bitcoin mining ditched the cpu, and then the gpu, to get a feel of just how unstable this domination you perceive is.
mircea_popescu: there wasn't much in the way of sane transportation routes in the fronteer, either.
mircea_popescu: now that that curse's dead and buried, we can actually design this shit.
mircea_popescu: there's no alternative in a "moore's law" shithole, for very good reasons.
mircea_popescu: dja see the difference between "hmm, i intuit in my urine that x86 sucks" and "lolut, 120v?
mircea_popescu: nah. one sticks around because it works. the other because it's the best alternative. you don't like either of them, it's true, but that fact does not alter the reality.
mircea_popescu: x86 makes sense. 120 volt is trivially abstracted away by two step transformers.