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Mikayla: Best I see it with my own eyes as opposed to
a Youtube video
Naphex: i am working on
a enterprise server solution for bitcoin
punkman: I read "coinscrum" as "coinscrotum" for
a second there
Naphex: punkman: well anyway, i had
a calendar date to recheck it in 6 months
Naphex: punkman: i checked out coinspark
a while ago
thestringpuller: How are these guys not operating on
a loss if they started around the new year?
bounce: <mircea_popescu> " regulatory oversight maybe at the national and international level, just to make sure that we don?t do something very foolish" << in
a sense this is an open invitation for some agency or institute or whatnot to step up. "bring it before us and we'll pass judgement", with suitable PR to suitably spin it up and answer the inevitable "you and what army?" questions.
mircea_popescu: well, like sex is no longer fashionable so the girl will claim she was "raped", just so the visit by two state employees to confiscate some contraband is called
a "raid"
undata: I notice "raids" are now
a primary way of doing things
mircea_popescu: undata obama finished the reorganisation of everthing law enforcement as
a homeland security sub.
undata: they're going to find out later that the US had
a lead pipes situation
BingoBoingo: I suppose that is also
a concern. Maybe the current practice for the warrant canary lacks room for improvement.
BingoBoingo: I guess. I'm just trying to think of
a verifiable deed sort of version that could be concealed from the warrant industry until triggered
BingoBoingo: Sign
a message asserting that passing the balance between the two addresses fuctions as your warrant canary and GPG crypt the message to
a few trusted parties that can release the signed doc if the behavior consituting the canary ceases
mircea_popescu: no, the way these things work is the company has
a firm negative statement published. "we have not been approached to so and so".
BingoBoingo:
A better system would simply involve passing
a BTC balance between two addresses under one's control at set intervals
BingoBoingo: It's definitely far from
a robust system, especially considering
a MITM could force delivery of the pre-canary image
mircea_popescu: for something to be
a canary it has to be
a passive, unavoidable mechanism.
BingoBoingo: The canary isn't
a guarantee they haven't been approached, but it's being triggered should seem to be
a guarentee they have.
BingoBoingo: Why, because they aren't Apple who has the press gloss over "The canary died because it became unecessary, not because
a warrant came to kill it"
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i fail to get how this is supposed to be
a canary.
undata: then you have
a private key
undata: decimation: you'd need something that indicates "this is
a deed" and also has
a magnet link for the whole signed message
TheNewDeal: it's basically
a blockchain parser that just filters for deeds, no?
undata: decimation: that's what bugs me about
a lot of these services
undata: the original pondering was "how to turn the blockchain into
a giant torrent site"
undata: turn the thing into
a hash db with references
undata: I'm thinking you could implement something like
a database index which is the distributed content of
a given magnet link
undata: I've thought
a lot about spending magnet links into the blockchain too
decimation: I think the conclusion was that you would make
a blob and then put the hash in the blockchain somehow
decimation: undata: signing stuff in the blockchain was discussed
a few weeks ago
undata: but
a small amount wouldn't hurt that bad
TheNewDeal: lets say someone actually comes up with
a new alternative to bitcoin that actually makes some sort of improvement
undata: why would that be
a good idea?
TheNewDeal: They say that burning bitcoin, or sending it to
a bitcoin blackhole, is
a great way to fund an altcoin
TheNewDeal: so you're proposing an extremely expensive twitter that would spit out
a bunch of transactions on the blockchain?
ben_vulpes: truly
a hanky story, but it's
a step towards integration tests and what has one
ben_vulpes: so i've got
a jenkins building this crazy stripped down build
undata: that guy has the smirk of
a kid who just pissed the pool on purpose
mircea_popescu: maybe we should just publish
a schematic, help these dumbasses self-rebutt
assbot: Obama communicates from hotel inside
a tent | MadMikesAmerica
undata: cazalla: he's
a shittier Bill Maher for the internet, without even the redeemer of being funny
undata: guy's such
a partisan hack
mircea_popescu: which, if you recall, was o noes, 50% at some point and lo and behold, not
a year later it is nothing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: at some point, perhaps,
a major mine operator will be pwned and his crown jewels throw to the mob. then we can study live code. << why would anyone do that ? it's difficult to trust the authenticity of
a stolen thing, which is why theft is not an acceptable source of evidence in legal proceedings
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform: actual - doubtful << if i ever have to create you as
a character, i'll have you watching the special olympics and then mutter to yourself "i wonder why they're trying to act handicaps" << I imagine this scene happening with alf in
a tent. No context is given for the tent until he gets up to take
a shit and the view sees the tend is in an otherwise pedestrian living room and emblazoned with the messa
undata: I watched
a video earlier of one of the younger Bushes, who's now Texas Land Commissioner
undata: mircea_popescu: I wish someone would dig her
a hole so she could fill it back in again.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: actual - doubtful << if i ever have to create you as
a character, i'll have you watching the special olympics and then mutter to yourself "i wonder why they're trying to act handicaps"
assbot: Logged on 26-10-2014 16:45:02; asciilifeform: musk, mr y, some nameless folks from usg, will get together very soon and - if you're known to own
a sufficiently large cluster of whateverthefuck - you gotta register...
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: LOL. yes yes. voice acting subpar, but the last line in the clip is
a communist patriot toasting: "To capitalism"
ben_vulpes: aight well fiat corp requires oiling before shuddering into motion in the morn. i'll continue this with anyone interested at
a later point.
ben_vulpes: q: what is the output of
a "merge" in this scenario?
thestringpuller: it seems asciilifeform is the only one qualified to be
a release manager
ben_vulpes: choice for the technical role perhaps would be
a better phrasing
ben_vulpes: i've been staring at it and it's not unintelligble -- horrible, but not unintelligible -- but given things like obfuscated c competition i don't think i'm actually
a good technical choice for the role
ben_vulpes: so i begin to wonder if i'm at all
a good person to handle merges, given my lack of experience with cpp
mircea_popescu: moreover, by putting the sexy back into reading code, it actually directly addresses the problem. currently people only read shit AFTER
a bug was found.
mircea_popescu: my model will allow
a specific list to be created. this was read in fact by 5468 people. these ones :
kakobrekla: which you cant really tell if it was
a good jo
mircea_popescu: was it an honest mistake ? was it
a nsa sponsored shitjob ? etc.
mircea_popescu: the difference is huge, because when
a bug like the numerous bugs in openssl/bash/etc pops up in the open
ben_vulpes: and
a record of patches signed by individuals
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla but how is
a single machine going to catch up when it falls behind ? never ? << the idea is to stop these persnickety machienes from validating the blockchain at all.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu, asciilifeform: re sig stack is the implication that
a signs patch, b signs patch and
a.sig, c patch and b.sig...
jurov: how did you generate such
a collision?
punkman: it's not
a problem, just wait for next deed, hash changes
mircea_popescu: "pick 32 onbit 64bit random numbers, test for cd" is
a much better approach
mircea_popescu: (and for that matter, it IS quite fucking possible for the current, fixed e implementation to spit out badly coded stuff every once in
a blue moon, when the p q happen to be
a multiple of 65537)
mircea_popescu: afaik it's only used because easy to compute, two 1's merged into
a word