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asciilifeform: ^ a kind of sequel
punkman: I got a coin in the works btw
asciilifeform: he can swear to his gods that he didn't make copies, but what kind of proof could possibly suffice as proof to a skeptic ?
kakobrekla: yeah casascius is basically a scammer for not scamming
cazalla: so really, it's more a question of why buy physical coins to begin with than getting to the point of asking how they generated the private keys used for the priv address inside the coin
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes it's a bit odd that the sidescroll shows up in firefox and safari but not opera. what're you using?
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: signing code << can be a hero for the motherland.
asciilifeform: cazalla: is there a genuine security reason for someone to refuse to disclose how they generate entropy << your crystal ball's answer is correct.
punkman: and that's a good reason?
kakobrekla: <cazalla> punkman, i thought so. i ask because this is the response i got when asking someone i'm looking at doing a story on "We believe there are a number of safe ways the keys can be generated by offline PCs, but do not disclose exact method(s) chosen for obvious reasons." < if its a bad implementation, you in fact increase attack surface even further
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: no-irc << story here. a good fraction of irc bots are malware c&c commanders. hosting firms hate them, they draw fire (from upstream isp)
PeterL: If it is something like "pick a certain digit of pi to start at" then it would be a security breach to expose what you are doing
cazalla: punkman, i thought so. i ask because this is the response i got when asking someone i'm looking at doing a story on "We believe there are a number of safe ways the keys can be generated by offline PCs, but do not disclose exact method(s) chosen for obvious reasons."
PeterL: is there a way to change that behavior in your local browser?
cazalla: question if anyone can help - is there a genuine security reason for someone to refuse to disclose how they generate entropy for the private keys contained in their physical bitcoin coin products?
BingoBoingo: Adlai: I'm working on a write up atm on those
PeterL: mircea_popescu: rss thing ... I am working on it, it is almost ready, I think, just need to work out a few bugs and clean up my code some
pete_dushenski: this represents a 200% greater loss than last year while revenue doubled.
kakobrekla: i think theres a misunderstanding going on here.
pete_dushenski: ;;later tell DanielKrawisz Looking forward to seeing you rationalize this gem of a comment in the public forum: "No, more nodes arent more secure. A full node is valuable to the one running it, not anyone else"
kakobrekla: well, its not hard to beat "hi you have incoming ddos, I understand this can be frustrating as this type of attack is usually a sign that your droplet has been compromised"
ben_vulpes: cazalla: what did you actually ask them? i eventually realized that the 32mb line is the nominal largest size of a p2p message.
BingoBoingo: http://www.theawl.com/2014/10/rewriting-history-in-real-time-a-social-media-guide
Azelphur: basically, everybody in this conversation is a tool
Azelphur: haha, that dude is a bit of a tool
BingoBoingo: <ninjashogun> this is a scammer - you can read my convo with him here:
mircea_popescu: a yes ty
assbot: Logged on 25-10-2014 01:11:55; PeterL: mircea_popescu: scoopbot is a replacement for penguiker
los_pantalones: i've been on a few of due diligence calls for them
ben_vulpes: wasn't PeterL going to set up a new blogs.ba
mircea_popescu: lol BingoBoingo i guess that guy's a troll!
kakobrekla: on a more serious note, yes.
pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2014/10/27/the-revolution-was-fiat-the-reaction-is-bitcoin/ << a long one for you (yes you!)
bounce: ``Supporters of the company [...], believe that a U.S.-regulated, U.S.-based futures exchange for bitcoin would settle down some of the volatility of bitcoin prices'' -- because US awesomeness and USG rules fix everything
ben_vulpes: neat! a dose of legitimacy.
kakobrekla: they can also scam you with a dedi
mircea_popescu: this is roughly like someone purporting to have an appartment for rent, comes with a "list of forbidden activities" : no opposite sex visitors, no masturbating, no drinking, no playing videogames
mircea_popescu: well, it would work in the following way : those other sites get sold out, you still have a stock.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: I suppose that would work if there weren't a handful of other sites "selling" it also.
mircea_popescu: what happened to "we are sold out. if you want to preorder it's going to be $100 extra. if you do not want to preorder, you can have it when we get it, at a $250 surcharge"
mircea_popescu: <TomServo> 2014-09-09 Note: We have sold out and are waiting on the next production run batch which will be delivered in a few months. We are sorry for the wait, but if you pre-order now we will send you a $20 gift certificate. <<< this is so braindamaged.
BingoBoingo: TomServo: Yeah I was away from the desk this weekend, and it took a bit to dig the relevant parts and boil them to qntra style.
cazalla: punkman: I read "coinscrum" as "coinscrotum" for a second there <<< you're not the only one
TomServo: asciilifeform: $5k - might as well be $5mil << For a toy, I agree...though they have some 'board only' options that come in the 675-1100 range.
diametric: asciilifeform: i know a guy that uses kicad religiously
mats_cd03: 13:34:45 — +asciilifeform wonders whether vendor is 'having problems' - considering that sdr is technically banned in usa << hows that? ham operators have had SDR for at least a decade, no mutterings as to illegality afaik
TomServo: 2014-09-09 Note: We have sold out and are waiting on the next production run batch which will be delivered in a few months. We are sorry for the wait, but if you pre-order now we will send you a $20 gift certificate.
asciilifeform will not be able to resist the temptation to build and test for free, but cannot promise to do this on a usably-frequent basis without compensation. is already doing rather many time-consuming things, not all of which bring in food.
ben_vulpes: not a bad notion at all
mircea_popescu: however, he doesn't hold a large balance, maybe that's the first thing bitcoin foundation can spend on
ben_vulpes: so i've cobbled together a testing stack that builds and boots this build as I mentioned last night. next things that i'd like to do with it is attach it to testnet; and stand up a server non-locally to run these builds.
ben_vulpes: that latter's a tough one.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: original suggestion was a 'linus-style' scheme where we all sign & mail in patches, and one of us plays the part of 'Linus' and merges, signing the resulting trees
asciilifeform: traditionally, it is not unreasonable to demand that a patch not annihilate the buildability of the overall turd.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: output of a merge is a buildable tree.
ben_vulpes: and i didn't see any good suggestions re "what is the output of a 'merge'?"
kakobrekla: its a long story, we were kids, i got carried away, is all.
kakobrekla: game of cuckoo < i once sent a guy to hospital cause of that game :\
asciilifeform: (rumour was, famously, that he commissioned a custom one)
mircea_popescu: Naphex problem being they also want to do it for free, but mayhap there's a solution for that.
Adlai: it'll be funny to see markets between the same "bitcoin" asset on different blockchains... reminds me a bit of goxBTC
mircea_popescu: Yet another one of them is that consumers revolt, entrepreneurs intervene, before the end of 2015 there’s about a thousand to a million different Bitcoin forks, each with its ten million-ish monetary base worth about a dollar, on global average. The size of the inter-Bitcoins market, the complexity and confusion ensuing makes pretty much everything unmanageable for the “ordinary person”
mircea_popescu: Naphex: a enterprise node, hook into trusted bitcoin core nodes over P2p protocol. Index and cache the data << this is not a bad idea.
mircea_popescu: wait mikayla believes mila jovovich is NOT a carbon copy and unique ?!
mircea_popescu: the result is a very cruel mistreatment of human soft tissue.
mike_c: the new tragedy of the commons is that the commons have a voice.
asciilifeform: but - plus a demented king running the show
mircea_popescu: just, a medieval institution, arguably inadequate for modern times.
asciilifeform: there's a third setting on the dial - kolkhoz
mircea_popescu: of course, us shitshow would reject this, but it's a perfectly valid approach.
PeterL: when the bitcoin foundation was announced I figured I would just ignore it, I have not found a reason to change yet
mike_c: punkman, did you write up a doc on the bot or release some code? could be useful to get eyes on it.
mike_c: *.b-a is down atm, is that where the bot description is hosted?
mike_c: no, hash attack is only adding a suffix
mike_c: because there would be a terminator in the middle.
mike_c: yeah, a terminating sequence of bytes. then it can't be validly extended.
mike_c: seems simple solution to put a terminator on bundle.
PeterL: I don't see any benefit the attacker would have over just submitting a deed to deedbot?
jurov: cue my donation to b-a
jurov: you yourself gave some "just a voice" rating
jurov: and then make a fuss about it?
jurov: punkman what if i secretly extend the bundle and make a payment to new addy
dignork: TomServo: I've got this: http://www.amazon.com/NooElec-Previously-Compatible-Packages-Guaranteed/dp/B009U7WZCA but the jury is still out. gnuradio is a pain to configure, but hardware is recognized: http://dpaste.com/093MJ7H
TomServo: Can anyone recommend a good SDR to play with?
jurov: or they'd have to make me a golden toilet new ones
gribble: Error: "isitup" is not a valid command.
punkman: "David Byron kicked off all this madness about undetectable guns when he was issued a patent in 1987. Congress even tried to ban this as-of-yet unbuilt gun. That didn't stop Byron from hooking up with investors and starting a company focused on making this "plastic gun" a reality."
punkman: hey something interesting in Cracked, what a surprise
Naphex: a enterprise node, hook into trusted bitcoin core nodes over P2p protocol. Index and cache the data
Mikayla: why not go a more....
Mikayla: well a nailgun sounds like a horrific way to die
chetty: banking is a very unhealthful profession is would seem
Mikayla: I believe another banker died via a nail gun
punkman: I don't mind the infinite bullets, more that they can't hit anything that's not a mook
thestringpuller: if you have a narrow hallway and a group of combatants is coming down it, you can just unload blindly and you'll probably hit most of them
Mikayla: not a carbon copy
chetty: <Mikayla> some movies they have a little too much ammo//some? a little too much? ,hah movies guns never run out of bullets
Mikayla: some movies they have a little too much ammo
chetty: belief is a silly concept
Mikayla: I've had a zombie nightmare