asciilifeform: chetty: i will be -very- surprised if a static build of a proggy involving a 3d board is possible on linux or other extant os

asciilifeform: !

asciilifeform: (what would it take to get rms in here so i don't have to play archaeologo-psychiatrist on him ?)

asciilifeform: but yes, compiler is infrastructure. and the bridges - are falling, falling down.

asciilifeform: not my terminology, but that of ancestors.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the traditional 'magisteria' are kernel-land and user-land

asciilifeform: at any rate rms distanced himself from the userland 'big picture' long ago, when 'hurd' was still a going concern

asciilifeform: i buy a loaf and therein are turds.

asciilifeform: i see the mice, if we run with them, as inhabiting - his bakery

asciilifeform: these mice tunnel through time and space.

asciilifeform: this is the difference.

asciilifeform: aha precisely

asciilifeform: well sure. so his aesthetics have a place for mice in his home.

asciilifeform: do we kill mice, roaches, by pretending they aren't there ?

asciilifeform: to smite the vermin ?

asciilifeform: linus either does not notice poettering (unlikely) or (more plausibly) does not give a damn

asciilifeform: it means that if a pile of shit stinks too loudly he has the option of turning his nose and pretending it isn't there - and takes it

asciilifeform: linus is close to getting there

asciilifeform: rm is apolitical in precisely the sense mircea_popescu is not

asciilifeform: he had the option of 'becoming apolitical' (yes, sounds odd to use this phrase to describe rms, but it applies) - and he took it.

asciilifeform: honest - yes. but in a kind of self-imposed exile from worldly things.

asciilifeform: i very much believe him.

asciilifeform not surprised for a nanosecond.

asciilifeform: ahahahaha.

asciilifeform: if considering removal, might as well carry on with the ada rewrite.

asciilifeform: it isn't removable

asciilifeform: (it is arguably more of the language in the turd than cpp per se)

asciilifeform: nubbins`: unfortunately satoshi's thing happens to be written -in- boost

asciilifeform: betcha you can de-wchar it

asciilifeform: have you examined its config flags ?

asciilifeform: what is this nonsense.

asciilifeform: wtf

asciilifeform: kill!

asciilifeform: wchar ?!

asciilifeform: it -does not belong- in bitcoin

asciilifeform: kill!

asciilifeform: nubbins`: ipv6 ?!?!?!!

asciilifeform: <PeterL> the mailman, and he is going to stop delivering my mail if I don't meet his demands in the next two weeks << i was once excommunicated from the u.s. post for a few weeks. had tiny mailbox that would fill with spam over mere days when i left town. when full enough, long enough - excommunication

asciilifeform: * Vexual is now known as marinateincaeram ... << mega-backchannel-lulz

asciilifeform: beginning to suspect that valgrind isn't seeing the whole picture

asciilifeform: unrelated, but yesterday's experiment turns out to be a failure - constants of 25 and 10 both lead to oom somewhere north of 132K blocks

asciilifeform: hmm

asciilifeform: (i recall it came up before, but my hands were full)

asciilifeform: nubbins`: what kind of issues ?

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2015/no-such-labs-snsa-march-2015-statement << neato

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i was quite unable to use anything but arch-arm's ldd for this.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: on what machine ?

asciilifeform: that is not the reason.

asciilifeform: <nubbins`> he doesn't know of anyone else to fund! <<< ahahahahahaha l0l no.

asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have not tried your patch yet. will get around to it soon.

asciilifeform: finally croaked.

asciilifeform: ....

asciilifeform: (believe or not - i don't have one...)

asciilifeform: eulora 0.1 comes out << one of these days i'ma have to get a box with a 3d board

asciilifeform: (pogo, heathen linux, pseudostatic, modified skull'n'crossbones)

asciilifeform: total mem ~= 99M (mostly constant)

asciilifeform: height=131128

asciilifeform does not like qr code

asciilifeform: decimation: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=31-03-2015#1081008 << see recent thread ☝︎

asciilifeform: 'simple' ocr ?!!!

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu kindly decruftifies them for me before they are posted.

asciilifeform: s.nsa broadcast

asciilifeform: turdogram!

asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu broadcast sent

asciilifeform: it is neither minimal, nor clean, nor self-reconstructing.

asciilifeform: because, aside from the authorship,

asciilifeform has used, did not like.

asciilifeform: i do not want them in a lake, i do not want them on the stake, ...

asciilifeform: i do not want them in the zoo, i do not want them with a gnu, i do not want them in a house, i do not want them with a mouse, ... , ...

asciilifeform: i don't want any redhat patches. if were any good, would have made it back into mainline.

asciilifeform: straight from rms's arse

asciilifeform: what the hell is wrong with naked, classical gcc.

asciilifeform: for what do i need these stooges' patches ?

asciilifeform: it is indelibly stained.

asciilifeform: redhat is more or less the last thing i want to use for anything linux-related.

asciilifeform: what method would that be

asciilifeform: why

asciilifeform: ick

asciilifeform: the kernel, for what it's worth, is not a sticking point.

asciilifeform: decimation: 'easy' - the ones that -work-.

asciilifeform: words have -meanings.'

asciilifeform: how about n people and one demented omnipotent monster who can eat them at will.

asciilifeform: if not, why not ?

asciilifeform: is that also a 'market' ?

asciilifeform: junseth: how about a puppet show where kermit the frog 'buys' a bag of 'fuzzies' from miss piggy ?

asciilifeform: junseth: do you believe that it is appropriate to use the word 'market' to describe a system where the crown is the single largest economic actor ?

asciilifeform: !up junseth

asciilifeform: nor would he, if could

asciilifeform: how many nerve cells does it take to understand that a random net derp cannot back X with Y, for any value of x or y

asciilifeform: junseth: there are also many scams which promise to run your car on water. for some reason their existence doesn't bother folks who aren't drooling idiots.

asciilifeform: 'Sometimes it is a comfort to me to think that the aeroplane is altering the conditions of war. Perhaps when the next great war comes we may see that sight unprecedented in all history, a jingo with a bullet-hole in him.' -- orwell. but i'd ask for 'an economist starved to death' ☟︎

asciilifeform: dearphuq.

asciilifeform: !down KatelynTaylor

asciilifeform: !down meowmix

asciilifeform: why even have it, if it randomly loses itself

asciilifeform: surely not satoshi ?

asciilifeform: ^ what kind of retard made debug.log roll over?

asciilifeform: and non-rollovering debug.log

asciilifeform: its a standard skull'n'crossbone orphanage burner with max cap set to 25