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asciilifeform: these will end up 'interned', i.e. represented in the db, in such a way that any tx referred to inside a tx is fetched in O(1)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: presently it eats blocks and tx in a heapless and demonstrably nonoverflowable way, into a general-purpose fixed space (no tx can >1MB) representation that is operable in O(1) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: "my stove dun work", fine, but it isn't because the gas is wet.
asciilifeform: it is a proggy that came out of asciilifeform's slow adaization of all known-permanent bitcoin protocol
scriba: Logged on 2017-03-28: [23:51:43] <phf> it's not the static linking that gets you, it's the lack of stable abi. binary loads, but fails to do the right thing on system call
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170328/#637 << this incidentally is a very fine point.
asciilifeform: ( as it is, it is simply a REALLY fast block and tx flow explorer )
mircea_popescu: what was the initialism standing for, did i miss ?
asciilifeform: i must confess, this is 90% of the work there will be, in any attempt to convert nqb into a btctron.
mircea_popescu: i dunno how we correctly sear this open sore.
asciilifeform: aha, specifically this
a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 15:06 mp_en_viaje: wuille comes along, "expands" for the africa box A. now the design is broken, in that item in B will correspond to both a and a'
mircea_popescu: especially because ineptly unspecified design space creates the latter possibility of a sort of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632676 which is entirely "legitimate" ie perfectly silent ☝︎
asciilifeform: theoretically trb & prb permit 'tx replacement' idiocy
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: one mega-q is what to do with the knobs that never got turned, but could turn. e.g., sequence numbers.
mircea_popescu: "who the fuck are yo uto be giving me awards anyway" might well have been set to happen regardless.
scriba: Logged on 2017-03-28: [23:28:09] <asciilifeform> proof was not generally understood and he "had a duty to dig out the truth of the proof". ' -- pediw.
asciilifeform: outputs also get a place to store 'who-spent', which is an index to the input who spends them (if such exists.) this is practical because the main db is not affected by reorgs (only 'nursery' is. currently i've defined 'nursery' to store the leading train of 144 blox. this is adjustible.)
asciilifeform: btw storing actual physical locations in all of the places where a tx refers to other tx, saves megatonne of time as well as space. (and in case it isn't obvious, it remains possible to reconstitute the original tx, noshit, we store the 256-bit sha2(sha2(x)) hash of a tx ONCE on the disk -- or whole thing'd be useless )
asciilifeform: ( and fought, successfully, the temptation to release the thing before the mmap'd replaces-all-the-db-and-indices thing is properly done )
a111: Logged on 2017-03-29 00:13 a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 21:23 phf: there are no provisions in bitcoin client for endianness support, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles/tree/bitcoin/src/serialize.h#L124 (that's the basic implementation, but also similarly assumptions are baked into other parts of serialize.h)
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-29#1633557 << i've been greatly enjoying not needing ANY of that nonsense in 'nqb' ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why is everything so lulzy all the time! why!
a111: Logged on 2017-03-21 01:45 asciilifeform: quite srsly, i'd like to know : phf now uses what? 'ed' ? does he still write programs for money ? in commonlisp? in selfsame 'ed' ?
scriba: Logged on 2017-03-28: [23:04:56] <phf> the only legitimate way of running mathematica is knuth style: http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/screen.jpeg
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170328/#579 << for some reason "Exec exec unclutter" made me lol. i expect i don't understand how thr world etc.
scriba: Logged on 2017-03-28: [22:20:09] <CompanionCube> David Cameron was doing this same thing more or less the same time last year.
mircea_popescu: http://log.mkj.lt/trilema/20170328/#547 << an blair was doing the exact same thing ten fucking years ago.
mircea_popescu: (the turkish sec, for a lol)
mircea_popescu: i suppose this'd hafta be sermaye pizdiasi kurgolu
phf: sort of how spk was training a group of schizophrenics for revolutionary activity, making bombs, etc. the whole place blew up.
mircea_popescu: shinohai i thought the farc finally went on the govt dole last month.
shinohai now has an idea to reswell the ranks of FARC with camhos ....
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 22:08 ben_vulpes: in re mircea_popescu's classic "girl bouncing around on all fours for a treat": http://68.media.tumblr.com/2dcd3ac18dfdbcd51fe376d5479591cc/tumblr_nratjy81nR1rs6a2oo1_400.gif
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633429 << we did https://68.media.tumblr.com/fa9a2501411802f10f1ddcaf88a17b7f/tumblr_o218aqlfjI1sk3xdpo1_500.gif I take it ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: buncha girls naked but for the aks... i could see it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what, with the fleet under wing, "this is eagle-1, standby for launch over."
asciilifeform: aww, just when i thought mircea_popescu might have gone to help the basques nail the occupant scum
a111: Logged on 2017-03-28 21:23 phf: there are no provisions in bitcoin client for endianness support, e.g. http://btcbase.org/patches/makefiles/tree/bitcoin/src/serialize.h#L124 (that's the basic implementation, but also similarly assumptions are baked into other parts of serialize.h) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: rather than the dorky usgistan cover lyurics.
asciilifeform: but this isn't much to go on.
mircea_popescu: i am enjoying a newfound love of "el condor pasa" btw. it's a fucking epic song if one reads the ORIGINAL SPANISH TEXT.
asciilifeform: only hint so far is that it's a donkeystan
asciilifeform: ( what places even left, that nobody's guessed yet.. )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633390 << nope. though great guess, peru is pretty cool. ☝︎
phf: this is an x60 too
asciilifeform: and i thought my openbsd 'libretto' that loses its x11 frame buffer was rotten
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-28#1633295 all the way ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( possibly -- if some hero devotes several years to it, trb-style -- but even then )
asciilifeform: from what phf has described ( and from my own experiments ) it is not clear to me that openbsd is salvageable .
a111: Logged on 2016-08-18 22:32 asciilifeform: 'The situation is somewhat akin to a retarded girlfriend trying to flood your apartment, that not only opens all the faucets and stops all the drains, but also takes the "extremely clever" measure of puncturing the water pipes, so she can then preciously inform you that "turning off the faucets won't help" and you must work with her to somehow create a raft out of your widescreen TV so as to navigate the marshy terrain that used to b
phf: "we shat in your soup. we then threw out all the soup utensils, who eats soup with shit anyway, fuck is wrong wit you!1"
asciilifeform: phf: this was the original drepperist excuse for 'shadow banning' static linking, 'oh forget it, no MODERN!11 os has a stable abi'
phf: it's not the static linking that gets you, it's the lack of stable abi. binary loads, but fails to do the right thing on system call
asciilifeform: it sounds like 'pretends to work'
phf: in fact, i static linked a copy of trb on a recent machine (5.6 say), and then moved it to a libretto (that was running 5.3 or whatever) and the binary booted and worked, but then silently failed on some system calls.
phf: if you're going to try crosscompiling things from one openbsd machine to your older ppc boxes make sure you have the right os versions set. the abi changes, and that bit me a few times
ben_vulpes: either way, i crufted some state onto the station and it works now.
ben_vulpes: or perhaps the temporary file machinery itself shat itself
ben_vulpes: org-babel shat itself when a directory in the tempfiles path didn't exist up front
asciilifeform: why the ~
ben_vulpes: welp emacs ~works on the ppc, insofar as emacs can be said to work
phf: pretty sure can go to china now, ghost write for their mathematical aristocracy. it's now a well established russian tradition
asciilifeform aspires to OneDay achieve the mega-highscore of writing a thing that 'requires' a chinese 'digger of truth'...
asciilifeform: proof was not generally understood and he "had a duty to dig out the truth of the proof". ' -- pediw.
asciilifeform: 'In September 2006, Yau established a public relations website, which disputed points in it. Seventeen mathematicians, including two quoted in the New Yorker article, posted letters of strong support. On October 17, 2006, a more sympathetic profile of Yau appeared in The New York Times. ... The article stated that Yau had alienated some colleagues, but represented Yau's position as that Perelman's
phf: i think that was huai-dong cao, or maybe it was the xiping zhu. i don't remember now which one of those two was the main guy
asciilifeform: was that the d00d who drove perelman into exile ?
phf: but apparently he has a chinese name "gao dena" given to him by frances yao
phf: there's probably some obscure reason which warrants a detail footnote in one of this books. or you need to mail him a letter and he'll dedicate a detailed response to it
phf: oh, you meant "nope" in a sense that you're not going to run it. duly noted.
doppler: love that clock though
doppler: oh haha, i was referring to mathematica's init message
CompanionCube: doppler: except for the nextsteppy clock in the top right
pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: please to beleet "%20" from last link there
ben_vulpes: space in the "for your leftism" link too, if that's not the turd in q
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: you have a macturd in the logz link in latest qntra
asciilifeform: it took asciilifeform YEARS to kick mathematica.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: the problem is that it is entirely like a dope habit
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: that ain't it
pete_dushenski: you warn folks about looking out window, asciilifeform. watch out for black van stealing your turkey recipes!
pete_dushenski: also cracked open mathematica 9 last night. lots on the plate!
ben_vulpes: what do you need with the firewire cable?
BingoBoingo: Interior Painting Protip: The right tool for applying paint to surfaces is a 2 inch angle sash brush.
CompanionCube: shinohai: that would be at least interesting to look at and analyze
ben_vulpes: good luck sticking new backdoors in the old gpg source
CompanionCube: Encryption backdoors would tail nicely with the Investigatory Powers Act and it's technical capability notices.
CompanionCube: David Cameron was doing this same thing more or less the same time last year.
CompanionCube: Framedragger: it's to be expected - this isn't their first time around this merry-go-round obviously. At least Dorsey made sense unlike the homesec
Framedragger: CompanionCube: in my view they're just continuing on a well-set path... opportunistically used london terror attack to repeat 'e2e encryption is going away' to acclimatise folks when they're more 'receptive'... etc.
asciilifeform: 'you have entered the rape pit, 5 cents / hour' vs 'this is a sanatorium, no rapes in past 150 yrs, honest!1!!!'
shinohai: Heh, true.
asciilifeform: shinohai: in fact d00d is more of an 'honest crook' than, e.g., crapple, goes straight to 'my crock of shit is porous and censored', rather than pretenses of 'resistance'
ben_vulpes: you just don't get to run a payment processor in fiatlandia without being on a /really/ short leash.
CompanionCube apologizes for the stupidity of the home secretary and UK government
shinohai: http://archive.is/t1z2A <<< Jack Dorsey totally understands how this encryption thing works .....
ben_vulpes: in re mircea_popescu's classic "girl bouncing around on all fours for a treat": http://68.media.tumblr.com/2dcd3ac18dfdbcd51fe376d5479591cc/tumblr_nratjy81nR1rs6a2oo1_400.gif ☟︎
ben_vulpes: should be able to voice yourself now
CompanionCube: it was one of the things that tipped me over the fence from 'just reading' to 'might as well join now'
ben_vulpes: aya, 'tis odd to see a feller rated in the #trilema wot but not...in #trilema