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nacci: but in answer to your question his head is rammed far up the ass of the state
nacci: seems that would be irrelevant in a meritocracy?
asciilifeform: 'should i live in the greek rubble, or the roman rubble'
asciilifeform: trinque: now this is a point.
asciilifeform: it takes all of 5min.
nacci: i am the wonderous nacci, previously non-wot, but want to participate in the discussion, I do like the philosophical approach I've found here
nacci: i suppose that's not much better than getting out the tweasers
nacci: let the punters continue with the architectural experiments and run on some version chosen arbitrarily, maybe porting over critical fixes
nacci: asciilifeform, is it necessary to stay up-to-date?
asciilifeform: btw trinque that looks like gtk3 in your makefile
asciilifeform: this'ere wad of shit is dry enough to put a primitive hut on top. and it turns over very rarely. would like the same on bsd.
trinque: "this here wad of shit is my house though!"
asciilifeform: trinque: indeed quite terrible thing, but i can get permanent no-dbus there. can haz on bsd ?
trinque: I know this from diving in to port it
asciilifeform: rather than pry out with tweezers 10,001 times.
trinque: asciilifeform: leave the goalpost where it was, eh?
asciilifeform: if i can do this, without having to individually disinfect ~every~ port -- it'd be great. plox to show how.
nacci: if a node can be run securely, the rest of computing can continue the shit show
asciilifeform: show how to set it up so that -- analogously to my gentoo curative pill, discussed on many occasions here -- dbus is NEVER, EVER built, NO MATTER WHAT
asciilifeform: trinque: if you did this -- plz to post recipe.
trinque: no, it's built *such that* you can do this trivially
asciilifeform: next : how easy it is to build own unixlike from scratch
trinque: do you realize how easy it is to have your own port makefiles?
asciilifeform: what's that if not 'base system'
trinque: asciilifeform: dbus is not in the base system wtf
asciilifeform: builds static trb, bootable initrd+kernel, busybox userland, ~5MB (littleendian arm) package all in all.
asciilifeform: nacci: we already have this, from 2 yrs ago, just not (afaik) currently in use .
nacci: perhaps the republic will need to maintain its own os in which to run trb
asciilifeform: (and that was 3 or so yrs ago)
nacci: yeah there are some interesting decisions made along the way, such as over a dozen drupal packages. . .
asciilifeform: microshit's sponsorship did not ~immediately~ turn openbsd to liquishit, but it is foolish to expect that it can withstand infinitely many years of it with 0 symptoms
nacci: the latest stable version has some regressions that people have posted about on the mailing list
nacci: sadly it does not appear to be well supported
a111: Logged on 2016-06-20 18:40 trinque: I'm clutching to hand-compiled driftwood on openbsd
nacci: i've taken an interest in openbsd on powerpc and found there are folks here doing just that
mircea_popescu: !~google human babesiosis in the us
mircea_popescu: a doomed entreprise, obviously. even the more intelligent among the herd are actively laboring to make themselves intolerable and to undermine any possiblity of even vaguely respectable entities sharing their space.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd guess the closest to home summation would be "they aspire to be well regarded by an entity they can respect".
mircea_popescu: and in any case inferior to actual sexual slavery on the face.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear to me what specifically they aspire to, but it IS clear to me that the plurious "variety" in that aspiration is strictly of the nature of the variant surface glycoproteins, protecting protozoans from the immune system
asciilifeform: probably -- not the communal flat
asciilifeform: i've deeply nfi what they aspire to inside their skulls.
mircea_popescu: that while not all of the us livestock is fit for either sexual slavery or "our democracy" whatever the fuck they would call their current activities ; "raising awareness and waiting for their day" whatever it may be -- nevertheless sexual slavery is a much more legitimate ASPIRATION than whatever they aspire to, namely "our democracy" or "speaking at a conference" or w/e the shit.
asciilifeform: i'd picture many of the chix would agree to join as junior deck swabbie in mircea_popescu's dirigible. but -- no such luck. (and for that matter, no such luck for the d00dz, either, in any case)
asciilifeform: what's that mean
mircea_popescu: yes, in actual terms. but in aspirational terms ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 20:07 mircea_popescu: "Each of HomeShare’s hundreds of tenants gets about 55 square feet along with half a closet, half a bathroom, and a compact common area shared with a roommate and usually two other flatmates, slumbering in the unit’s other divided bedroom." << how's this supposed to be preferable to simple, honest to god sexual slavery is anyone's guess.
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/04/us-infrastructure-today-trumps-epa-saves-california-agriculture-and-vagrants-drop-atlanta-bridge/ << Qntra - US Infrastructure Today: Trump's EPA Saves California Agriculture And Vagrants Drop Atlanta Bridge
a111: Logged on 2016-08-17 17:02 mircea_popescu: Framedragger the reason there's a lot of credence in phf's perhaps harsh criticism is http://trilema.com/2014/how-to-make-money-on-the-internet-while-pretending-you-know-what-youre-talking-about-and-accumulating-a-legion-of-mindless-followers-for-fun-and-profit/
mircea_popescu: CompanionCube the point of interest for all this is obviously http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-17#1523269 both in-chan context an' references. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding that yes, evolution is an observable phenomenon.
mircea_popescu: in any case, dude droning on about "his ideas re evolution" is going to make a very poor impression. as they aren't his fucking ideas, and an apparent ignorance of the whole darwin thing does not plead in favour of either his intelligence or his culture.
CompanionCube: where somebody == being in the WoT/trilema?
mircea_popescu: very much as property works in the empire.
mircea_popescu: either you are somebody, in which case you may have ideas ; or else you are nobody, in which case you stole them.
mircea_popescu: it's just not an assumption that is made.
mircea_popescu: the problem is this : i/we don't deem $nobody capable of independent thought.
CompanionCube: the scale of the internet and the world makes it more likely than not.
CompanionCube: mircea_popescu: coincidence or independent thought? Unless it's somewhere trivially easy to find, that is
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635545 << it's pretty though. that's what you get for pretty. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635531 << looks like some default won't demean itself to the point of scaling or anythng! ☝︎
shinohai: All these lurkers aren't her for nothing!
CompanionCube: *isnt' enough if you didn't originally find the idea somewhere else
CompanionCube: mircea_popescu: imo plagiarism requires intent and knowledge - mere repetition of the idea s
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 18:31 CompanionCube doesn't think the FPGA article plagiarises #trilema logz but I should most likely read/searc more to be confident about that
mircea_popescu: but i guess the natural solution "doesn't scale".
mircea_popescu: "Each of HomeShare’s hundreds of tenants gets about 55 square feet along with half a closet, half a bathroom, and a compact common area shared with a roommate and usually two other flatmates, slumbering in the unit’s other divided bedroom." << how's this supposed to be preferable to simple, honest to god sexual slavery is anyone's guess. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 14:09 asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/gz0l9 >> communal flats soon to be sop in usa.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635408 << there's this ancient mp idea / article about giving "student" chicks free rent in exchange for living in all-glass no-clothes arrangements. make shop windows great again. ☝︎
shinohai also thanks trinque for pushing him to new frontiers that day in the other chan ...
shinohai: I've been playing with it some to learn lisp, was thinking of switching jhvh1 over at some point.
trinque: if your thing can insert into pg, it can talk to logbot.
trinque: I mean, I'm not going to post every trivial thing
CompanionCube: trinque: RSS too?
trinque: wot service shall be posted there at some unspecified future date
jurov: mod6: the treasurer duty is very light one, so it's not a problem at all
mod6: Hopefully not, as jurov has completed his duties very well thus far.
mod6: I have no objections at all. Just curious if 'sabbatical' entailed a long enough absense to warrant someone else taking over as Foundation Treasurer.
danielpbarron: I have no objection to jurov as lord. all my interaction with him has been positive over the years. very clean migration of some of my assets from coinbr to eulora
diana_coman: my understanding is that a position is a person's to claim whenever he wants to/cares to, so sabbatical is certainly not a problem at all
jurov: and we are to revisit that every year?
a111: Logged on 2016-04-03 01:59 mircea_popescu: more like a "people responsible enough to understand the difference between 'people on tilt' and 'voices of reason'". otherwise i enjoy talking with a wide selection of folks. women, even!
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> the one other item is ... jurov fell off as lord treasurer. i dun exactly recall why or wherefore ; but he is STILL holding a considerable sum for the foundation, and moreover why sohuldn't he be a lord ? <- based on the work he did/does as far as I know it, I think he should be on the list; that being said, my understanding was that he got dropped due to http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-03#1444966 ☝︎
mod6: jurov: Are you going to continue with your duties as Foundation Treasurer?
jurov: I think I can function equally well without titles. And if people stop obsessing about where I am speaking, the better.
trinque: did you search logs before thinking that?
CompanionCube doesn't think the FPGA article plagiarises #trilema logz but I should most likely read/searc more to be confident about that ☟︎
shinohai: http://archive.is/N8WRB <<< lulzy but the fingerprint shit isn't so secure either.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-story-of-friday/ << Trilema - The story of Friday
ben_vulpes: the whimsy dun matter terrifically
ben_vulpes: just wait for lady of the coven
mircea_popescu steels himself for when someone's gonna want to be the lord of right good and proper.
mircea_popescu: what, "Lord of the Well" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-04-01 15:09 mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2017/the-lordship-list-fourth-year/ << so on re-read it occurs to me ben_vulpes should prolly be the lord mimisbrunnr ?
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-01#1635420 << "of the well" more pleasingly esoteric imho ☝︎
mircea_popescu: not on eg, takeoff
mircea_popescu: it just shocked me, i have nfi how pilots don't kill to drive it, but the thing flows like an audi.
mircea_popescu: it's been revised and revised since the 80s. but they came up with some exceptional engine couplings in the last (2015 ?) iteration
mthreat: ya the -800 is pretty new right
mircea_popescu: the latest though.