asciilifeform: aside from the guilicious dripping braindamage candy of it, i just logged into a www-based (https with self-signed cert) thing that has full control over $box
asciilifeform: is this not because 'can make another' is not entirely a given? expensive operation (per yesterday's thread)
asciilifeform: nubbins`: solderpaste is even less fun, because actually is a suspension of metal balls. and if you misapply it, you get defects
asciilifeform: nubbins`: silkscreen for pcb looks quite like this also. paste press is a somewhat different item, applies substance with consistency of toothpaste
asciilifeform: not that it is a bad thing - but that the lessons learned inside such a machine are uniquely inapplicable to folks on the groud
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu finds it harder and harder to care about whatever the derps outside do. << this is the very definition of atomic dirigible.
asciilifeform: do you see how the situation is analogous to the 'electronics chef' thing ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: were these folks claiming to be professional 'tasters' ?
asciilifeform: or go and find me a data center guy who won't recommend an intel box, ever.
asciilifeform: and that's how we get the faux-sommeliers who cannot distinguish red from white-with-food-colouring
asciilifeform: nubbins`: skills that cannot be faked or debased, i have a soft spot for, yes. but the fraudsters did find the pill against this, and it was to build entire fraudwots that cancerously spiderweb across any passageway whereby the layman might wander in
asciilifeform: nubbins`: the thread concerned a conversation we had at c3 about a hypothetical profession of 'computer sommelier'
asciilifeform: i must confess that i have a rather pessimistic view of the sommelier thing because the feedstock is already mind-bogglingly scarce, and the market has been flooded with crud for long enough that -everyone with serious experience has the bulk of his serious experience with crud-☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the data center thing would be ideal, i agree, if anyone actually ran amd-only data centers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i would have approached from different angle, and suggested that sommelier must have actual understanding of how the damn thing works. as well as a certain amount of reverse-engineering capability.
asciilifeform: but patrons of 'sommelier' are presumably interested in something more
asciilifeform: these folks can speak for cost - yes, reliability - sometimes, sure
asciilifeform: and data center procurement is the last place i'd expect to find it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: very much through experience. but i do not know if anyone actually has this kind of experience.
asciilifeform: for instance, i regard experience with intel boxes as entirely irrelevant to what a hypothetical proper 'sommelier' would do.
asciilifeform: EllieAsksWhy: get in wot (the actual wot). this way you can come back, e.g., tomorrow, and we will have some reason to think that we are speaking with an invariant actual human being
asciilifeform: in the sense of with sufficient lsd everything is quite like everything else ?☟︎☟︎
