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asciilifeform: ( in other lulz, re much earlier thread, https://www.google.com/patents/EP0099946A1?cl=en )
ben_vulpes: pushing a particularly stubborn turd out
asciilifeform: i thought it was a 'sack race'
mircea_popescu: (old and therefore stupid cunt figured she's too good to go in the mud bare cunt, so she took a dress.)
mircea_popescu: that'd be THE LEG
shinohai: dafuq is that thing on the far right in that pic mircea_popescu ?
asciilifeform: http://computers-are-fast.github.io ( linked from the loltron ) <<<>>> http://www.loper-os.org/?p=300 .
mircea_popescu: in other lulz, notice THE LEG ? https://68.media.tumblr.com/9ff0aa6b62a82c76eb8eab2e2b6692fe/tumblr_nfp6uoUwc51shcyjro1_1280.png
Framedragger: incidentally did eat canonical eng breakfast this morning; i should re-evaluate my life
mircea_popescu: you're in scotland after all, what the hell do you care!!1
mircea_popescu: i hope latest trilema didn't push you to drink.
Framedragger: after this wine.
Framedragger: ok will drop an email to the chap if can find an address.
Framedragger: oh god n-gate <-> qntra pipeline is so obvious in retrospect, why did nobody think of this!1
mircea_popescu: if anyone does, see if the n-gate dude wants to do a qntra weekly ? he sounds just about right.
Framedragger: well, old 'dev' account for twitter app (don't ask); doesn't count
mircea_popescu: Framedragger got a twitter ?
mircea_popescu: that's ok, the salaries have been slimming continuously. soon enough shinohai 's girls will be making more than paul graham's bois.
asciilifeform: 'Not a single goddamn Hackernews makes the obvious connection to the shit they do at work all day for a living. The tacit consensus: Hackernews isn't bad for creating the tools of surveillance capitalism; Congress is bad for letting people use them.'
ben_vulpes: fuck, buddy, i didn't think it could get worse!
ben_vulpes: > "The Rust Evangelism Strikeforce speculates on when they can move on to shitting up web development"
Framedragger: (n-gate.com has HN update for the last week of march and it's a riot, http://n-gate.com/)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it's a winblowzism typically found on 'dell', 'hp', similar shitboxes, unpacks a new hdd image from hidden disk partition.
mircea_popescu: in other #trilema does my homework, can anyone explain wtf a "factory reset" that wipes the hdd would be ? windows speak for reinstall ?
ben_vulpes: just stay the fuck out of bull run valley
ben_vulpes: there are plenty of places to slime hood
ben_vulpes: "fixing" things.
mircea_popescu: re "ferociously protected". "we dun need no women on mt hood, stinking up the water supply with their womanly lyes and lures."
ben_vulpes: shinohai: if they don't have a rep in here, it's vaporware by default
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes do you recall the oglaf with "song of sword and saddle" or what was it
shinohai: I have little faith they'll ever actually get a working product, rootstock has been endless blather on reddit for well over a year.
mircea_popescu: hey, cluj had great tap water when i was a wee tyke.
ben_vulpes: i do miss one thing about my hometown; bull run reservoir produces un-fucking-matched agua
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: betcha it's better than the well water south of portland
shinohai: rootstock was the plan to add ethereum functions to btc
mircea_popescu: gah this water sucks wtf.
ben_vulpes: oh whoa that plant tunnel is awesome
asciilifeform: there was a sign, 'do NOT sniff the flowers', some visitors -- ignored, sniffed.
mircea_popescu: and now i shall leave you for a typical mp ritual, whereby i line up all the shot glasses in the house, fill each with a different kind of mineral water and make the rules that'll dominate purchasing henceforth. brb.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: iirc there is a famous 'poison garden' in england somewhere
ben_vulpes: "yes honey, beautiful beautiful death, all over the carport"
ben_vulpes: ah, no, point is that she's on top of things.
mircea_popescu: or at the club, i suppose.
ben_vulpes: so i read a bit about datura, "moonflower, that sounds familiar...hey baby aren't you doing something with moonflower in the backyard this year?" "yeah! it's going to be beautiful" "..." "is this about how daturas are poisonous?" "..." "it's going in on the carport where dog and child can't get to it"
mircea_popescu: i was just idly following the sign up thread.
asciilifeform: it ain't sarin, however, does little simply by touching.
mircea_popescu: it was 100% datura. enough there for a medium sized book club.
asciilifeform: this was in the logs
asciilifeform: oh i remember this
mircea_popescu: so i break one off, smell it, handle it, we arrive at the coffee house, i put it into one of the water cups they serve with coffee. meet local girl, ask her if she knows what this beautiful flower is, she does not.
asciilifeform: 'hey i signed up for jumping under tanks, not for into volcano'
mircea_popescu: except of course if they're signing up for a job at the walmart.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the fundamental problem is that no one can know what they sign up for.
asciilifeform: 'and today, chicklets, we will learn how to properly jump under a tank'
mircea_popescu: what was i gonna say, "i know this guy, something-life-form" ?
asciilifeform: id've thought, naively, that they know approx what they signed up for.
asciilifeform: and the plugging of pillbox embrasures with own torso
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: didja ever explain to her who's gonna be doing the falling on grenades ?
mircea_popescu: the funny part is that i suspect it's entirely lost on her as of yet who's gonna be tasting them.
mircea_popescu: "no hon. i'm not the right age for self-testing anymore. that's more of a 16yo thing."
asciilifeform: trinque: probably why threads re thompsonism tend to focus on gcc : it is THE failure point
mircea_popescu: so today she asks, "But the question is, if that tree makes fruit, and they pretty much look like cherries... will you try one ?"
mircea_popescu: in related story : i was walking with girl yesterday among this beautiful townlet. off one fence, an explosive arbust sent its POISON RED flowers. i examined it because curious, and decided it's actually some kind of cherry tree ?!?! right leaves, right petals except for the color, everything.
asciilifeform utterly fails to grasp the line of thought here
trinque: really mircea_popescu already did. "I lost a man using Debian machines today." not only do you know something about Debian, you know something about where he was. maybe not as much as you'd like, but you have some coordinates, and more importantly, if you don't suck, *you* aren't dead
mircea_popescu: i will say, people tend to be amazed at what can fit in a head once proper trees are constructed for the fitting.
phf: well, presumably all this only applies when you have fits in head. otherwise you have to fallback to counterparty
mircea_popescu: (9yo mp actually did these determinations by hand. how about 2 vs 2 ? how about 1+1 vs 2 ? how about...)
mircea_popescu: "what is stronger, titan or black dragon ?"
mircea_popescu: yes, but i played heroes while they did that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu when you were a kid, did the local boys also do the 'well ~i'll~ X' 'battle of wits' thing ? 'tomorrow i'll bring a TANK!' 'well ~i~ will bring antitank gun!' '~i~ will bring battleship!'
trinque: applies directly to present thread
a111: Logged on 2017-02-24 02:36 asciilifeform: veen: let's try a historical angle. according to legend, emperor qin shi huangdi (same d00d as known for taking the 'immortality pill' and promptly croaking) had a palace with 1,500 rooms. and would not tell anyone in advance which one he plans to sleep in on a given night. and which ones he would put cutthroats in, ready to kill anyone who opens door. think 'minesweeper.'
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-24#1617495 << this interested me the other day because my emulated asciilifeform does not approve of mitigations; the model described also can be implemented in meat ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-03-31 18:09 mircea_popescu: actually i was thinking, im not going to hold another conference, because it's just not a sane opsec proposition. however, one fellow at a time coming down for a week or somesuch is more than tenable. what's airfare, fiddy bux ? pack up the missus an' come say hi.
asciilifeform: ^ asciilifeform: 'say a three megatonne bomb falls, you are 1km from ground zero' mircea_popescu: 'ha-HA! i wouldn't be caught dead near ground zero! foiled!'
mircea_popescu: yes gpg can generate key. so can you. keep that in mind.
asciilifeform: and enumerate them.
asciilifeform: alternatively, say i find that gpg only ever was able to generate 100,000,000 different keys.
mircea_popescu: it is of no concern. we don't own the pipeline so we don't cement the products.
asciilifeform: it is the 'sarin' case : finding that you have been fucked, does 0 to unfuck.
mircea_popescu: we don't put pogos that way. if you recall, i wasn't for it then, either.
asciilifeform: and that we find this AFTER we put pogos on bottom of the sea, and on mars, in cement plinths.
asciilifeform: let's say we find that, e.g., gcc past 3.x embeds an off-by-one-ization in memcpy() , dependant on payload, and that it is triggerable specifically in trb tx processing.
mircea_popescu: model this for me.
asciilifeform: in the sense where, by the time you have any notice, you also have some serious problems.
asciilifeform: this is more of a sarin than a phosgene.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform sat there.
mircea_popescu: "spot check model doesn't mater, if there's phosgene in the air you're fucked" "yes, well, i think i might notice the phosgene. by you know, how the gals drop like flies."
mircea_popescu: and the reason it doesn't matter is because it's impossible not to stumble on the one.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the spot check model is, again, wholly inadequate. if you have ONE debianism or heartbleed etc. it literally does not matter worth a shit how 'clean' the remainder of it may have been.
mircea_popescu: it's also strictly opposite to the "human rights" imbecility.
mircea_popescu: it goes way the fuck earlier than that, the whole thing with clay stamps and ancient babylonians etc.
mircea_popescu: but in practical terms, i don't check all the living space all the time. i check random spots at random times and if they're dirty somebody sleeps in a zebra costume. this method keeps the place well clean, and it's how management works. hence the discussion of genovese merchants etc.
mircea_popescu: the only problem is if they get lazy and turn into fly eyes.
phf: that too
phf: we were comming from the direction of debian on 10 cds though, so restating my original point: i think bootstrapping can be solved with counterparty as an alternative to fits in head, i.e. i don't mind an approach where in order to bootstrap i get a binary from l1, that i use as a rich subtrate from which i can bootstrap.
mircea_popescu: i suspect it's mostly because we're thinking in yet not mutually understood terms.
phf: i think i see why we got on this thread. i was saying that bootstrapping is always a counterparty problem. i missed that that's not the case for fits in head (i think ascii might've tried pointing that out to me).
a111: Logged on 2017-04-04 16:07 asciilifeform: 'gotta support 10,001 incompatible but otherwise equivalent shits' is a serious hell. it plagued armies in ww1 ('hey a trainload of ammo just came. but none of it fits our 7 types of rifle, it's all for that 8th'), the sov icbm forces ('we have parts but not for these 4 types of rocket, they are for 5th') etc