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mircea_popescu: so, yeah. the market may decide anything it wants for just as long as it stays strictly within what i find paltable. that';s how this thing works.
mjr_: i believe you conflate backwards compatible, or option with identical
mjr_: i agree
mjr_: i don't have to though
mjr_: i can work with the limited subset of the protocol you find valid
mjr_: and if i need to do business with you
mjr_: do i care? not at all
mjr_: i do it, i get the money
mjr_: that if i send a multisig tx to someone, they will in return send me 1,000,000 bitcoin
mjr_: i judge it based on what i need, and what i can do
mjr_: i, perhaps the only one, do not judge bitcoins protocol by what you find valid
mjr_: i don't think your tx is anything other than random data
BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Fix so I can do "Robin Williams DIY Project" ad buy
mjr_: yes i could
mjr_: i could view all of the blockchain as random
mjr_: i give a shit about a transaction crafted a certain way included in ablock
mjr_: i don't give a shit about a derp saying anything
mjr_: i'm not saying that you have to change, i am saying that new features are added
mjr_: but you think i can only lay bricks
mjr_: i can lay bricks or i can lay cinder blocks
mjr_: i am saying that right now, i can use multisig
mircea_popescu: all i see is the bricks laid.
mircea_popescu: well so there you go. you wish o matter personally, but i don't give a shit. im your employer not your lover.
mircea_popescu: anyway, here's the story : i hire you to lay bricks for me. that's your job.
mjr_: and i can do it all day
mjr_: ok...and if i add acceptable messages to a protocol
mjr_: i am talking about running diff on code
mjr_: i didn't bring up soup
mjr_: i can run diff on the code and it comes out "no changes"
mircea_popescu: so what if i hexedit the gui and make it pink
mjr_: i can run 32 bit programs on my 64 bit machine
mjr_: i said that you can use the subset of features
mjr_: i never said you had to care
mircea_popescu: until that day. have fun and i don't care.
mircea_popescu: the day I AM FORCED TO ACCEPT IT something changed.
mjr_: i really don't see how you can say that
mjr_: i don't care...yuo said the protocol hadn't changed
mircea_popescu: mjr_ the day you can withdraw mpex funds to a multisig address i might care.
mjr_: i don't give a shit how you try to spin that
mjr_: i'm saying that you can bury your head in the sand, it doesn't mean that reality ceases to exist
mjr_: tell me i can't craft a multisig transaction right now
mjr_: tell me multisig is not a thing, and i concede
mjr_: i agree
mjr_: i say if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, its a duck
mjr_: does it have all the elements that i would look for in a home?
mircea_popescu: if i let you live in my garage because i'm too lazy to kick you out today, that doesn't mean the garage is your home.
mjr_: so I notice a difference
mjr_: ok, and yet i don't like condoms on my tv sets
mircea_popescu: <mjr_> i am saying that the code that is running on some mining machines is not the same code that ran in 2011 <<< this.
mircea_popescu: there's an entire class of them, occasionally i bitchslap them into the abyss, but whatever.
mjr_: i am saying that the code that is running on some mining machines is not the same code that ran in 2011
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: thestringpuller: looks like your login succeeded, i have no idea right this moment why the request timed out. <<bring on the muffins!
mircea_popescu: i can refer you to some random bathroom stall ? what of it ?
mjr_: i can refer you to the latest release notes if you like
mircea_popescu: <mjr_> considering the bitcoin standard gets changed around once every 2 months << i have nfi what you're on about, it's noit changed since 2011.
mjr_: i don't think we have this calcification that you point to
The20YearIRCloud: I want to IPO
kakobrekla: o i got this one, its 'doom'
xmj: LitecoinSchadenf: I've seen it Time and Time again.
mjr_: so the only rationale is that "the idea isn't good", or "i don't want to give away the idea without scamming people for money and boosting my ego"
xmj: LitecoinSchadenf: you know what i really find funny about Misesians?
mjr_: what i meant is that IF the community who uses bitcoin pretty much unanimously like your idea
godovo: mircea_popescu: I bet they want "guarantees" or escrow
mjr_: but i get your point
mjr_: i want to either get puts, sell futures, or borrow and sell
mjr_: that is what i meant
mircea_popescu: otherwise one could short them either as futures (like i am trying to shoirt eth/doge)
mjr_: mircea_popescu: I meant you can short almost all stocks today, you couldn't in the 90's tech bubble.
mjr_: personally, i think that if it were about "your idea" and "your idea" had value, it would be incorporated into bitcoin...
mjr_: ok, i reread the FAQ, where are DERPS explained (i get it obviously, its stupid businesses, hence the name DERP)
The20YearIRCloud: I did?
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I believe The20YearIRCloud called you old
The20YearIRCloud: When I grow up ill vnc to my office and up myself
mjr_: i LOL'd so hard at Stellar...
mjr_: LitecoinSchadenf: I can only hope...
mjr_: ooh, i seem to have missed a lot
mjr_: i'm out of the loop as usual, so figured i would check here
nubbins`: asciilifeform i think this is one of those parallel discussions
nubbins`: tbf i phrased improperly earlier, i meant who in the fuck would buy btc
nubbins`: i'm surprised every time
nubbins`: mircea_popescu: i still don't know who in the fuck would buy them ;D
mircea_popescu: i'd rather sell people dicks to suck.
cazalla: i'd rather suck dicks than sell tbh
mircea_popescu: bubbins`> oh, and i sold a couple casascius coins for a record-high price today <<
nubbins`: oh dammit i forgot about the bread
mircea_popescu: why would i blacklist them ? let people have fun.
nubbins`: hmm, i have like a hundred shirts to print today and it's quarter to nine
nubbins`: see? i'm un-impostorable
RagnarDanneskjol: mircea_popescu - I dug up that clearsign bot module in pyth here http://pastebin.com/5zKpYbdk
nubbins`: i was ready to send
nubbins`: i know, right?
mircea_popescu: i thought some chan
mircea_popescu: i knew this chick, her thing was, she'd go through the trains at the end collect discarded books
nubbins`: oh, that's another thing i noticed about yoorup
nubbins`: i read over 100 books by probably the second grade
mircea_popescu: hm. on second thought, i guess most people worth talking to actually read over 100 books.
mircea_popescu: imo it's really a sort of lifetime deal, i have nfi who has the mettle to actually read 10k articles.
nubbins`: so, thanks for the content, i guess
nubbins`: yah, i think i started with over 1k
nubbins`: i'm down to like