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mp_en_viaje: omfg,
the coffee in
this country. idiot germans come in and buy all
the best sorts anyone can be arsed
to sell
them ;
then you go
to germany and can't have a decent cup of coffee. i just can't set it down.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje,
this is a point. You mean we ought
to just get
the bot up and producing logs first and worry about
the history later?
mp_en_viaje: specifically, until we have
the process such
that
the bot actually produces logs, reliably, for each day, it makes 0 sense imo
to even start
this discussion. because what, so we do it YEY AGAIN, and
then
there's yet another gap once we're done ?
mp_en_viaje: i for one'd have expected
the structural definition in
the comments'd be more useful
than
the actual dump file ; but in any case,
there's more problems even higher up.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, ah I see what you mean. Yeah I guess
that may be a bit of a pain
trying
to produce something in
that format. Hm
mp_en_viaje: the ~problem~ is
though
that
these are 1-logday-per-line humongo files. can you even meaningfully process it ?
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, hm, I can't find a reference
to a log8.txt in
that discussion, but if
that was what you used for your input file
then yeah definitely I'd want
to see
that
mp_en_viaje: now, what you really want is a look at say log8.txt, which is what in
the end was finally used,
mp_en_viaje: there's entirely no point in reproducing
that.
mp_en_viaje: but
the point is :
the whole logstory
thing was simply me wranglin gwith
the xchat historical format most of
the early logs were in.
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, yeah
that was
the discussion. I
think
the script
that ended up working for you was in
this comment mp_en_viaje: lobbes, im digging
through
the stuff here, because i suspect
there might;ve been more
to it all
than just
that, so a sec
lobbes: mp_en_viaje, yeah
that'd be great.
Ty!
mp_en_viaje: lobbes, so you want a sample of
the logstory file ? lesee here
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:51:09 diana_coman: mp_en_viaje:
to my mind
there wasn't anything new/unknown/controversial in
there really; (or I'd have moved it
to #t earlier anyway).
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 14:02:20 jfw: mp_en_viaje: is
that all clear?
mp_en_viaje: this is of course my problem ; you can do it elsewhere cheaper / better / whatever, i'm
the last dood
to get in
the way of any such a
thing.
mp_en_viaje: there ~is~ of course substantial cost involved in i dunno, keeping a capitalized company on
the books while alf derps about re-doing
the same mistakes on
the chickenfeed he's found in his couch cushions.
there's similarily a substantial cost involved in maintaining all
these
trilema herramientas
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:38:48 jfw: mp_en_viaje: does
the idiot list include me
this
time? I could
try
to be more mindful of when a discussion should be moved or started here
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:45 lobbes: Also, are you good for
tomorrow night or were you looking for doing
this during
the day? I'm slaving in
the mines
tomorrow but my night is clear. If need be I may be able
to weasel a work-from-home day
though, so I'll check back when I wake up
tomorrow
lobbes: Instead, I figure why don't I just cut out 2,3,4,5 and instead I just alter my 1)
to pull logs from my Postgres database in
the same format of your input into your backfill process (which has already been
proven to function to spec)?
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-02 16:41:29 mircea_popescu: ima
try putting
the first few in and we see (i hope for eg you do
the sed 's%"%\\"%g' | sed 's%*%\*%g' escapings, yes ?)
lobbes: To lay it out, my convoluted process last
time of getting you
the data you needed was: 1) Pulling logs from my Postgres database
to a flatfile 2) importing
that into mp-wp's MySQL database 3) getting a mysql dump of *that* 4) altering said dump with e.g.
sed escapes, etc.
then finally 5) I give it
to you
ericbot: Logged on 2019-12-04 04:37:32 mircea_popescu: lobbes wtf dude, you set ALL of
these
to 2019-12-03 22:03:06
time ?! didn't we go
through an entire discussion of how it should increase monotonically ? gah.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-09 22:57:28 lobbes: mp_en_viaje: In preparation of our next attempt at getting
this project done, I've been going
through my
faff-fest from last
time.. and
trying
to figure out how we should pick back up
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-02 09:13:50 mp_en_viaje:
trinque,
the problem with your proposal is
that
the article isn't yet loaded at
that point.
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:12:20 mp_en_viaje: is pondering
this wonder. wtf are you idiots doing over
there ? srsly
tryina come up with all
this shit on your own, who knows, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't,
then i go read it on qntra and what, maybe i agree, maybe i don't, in any case ~after
the fact~, at which point as chance dictates, either i sever
the link or not ?
dorion: hey
trinque, minding
the previous
point and earlier
point and
questions, why don't we set a
time
to discuss where you're at and what
the next steps are ?
jfw: **The consequences if it were incorrect are mostly
that
the
tx wouldn't validate ...
jfw: mp_en_viaje: is
that all clear?
jfw: As for
the private key, since as I understand you want
to spend from an existing one imported from some other wallet implementation, I should note
that it can be imported in hex or WIF format, however, as in
TRB, "compressed" keys aren't presently distinguished. It's possible
to use
them
through some code
tweaks,
though it's presently all one or all
the other.
jfw: The consequences of its being incorrect are mostly
that
the
tx won't validate - EXCEPT (I recently realized) for
the value field, which could be used
to subvert
the fee and change computation.
jfw: The function of
the 'online' code I referenced is
to index
this information and get it in
the required format; you could instead use block explorers or whatever you please
to get
the information and it's none of my business. Or I could provide it, since you gave
the address.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje:
to my mind
there wasn't anything new/unknown/controversial in
there really; (or I'd have moved it
to #t earlier anyway).
jfw: As best I could determine for my
spec,
this is an unavoidable consequence of
the design of bitcoin
transactions. Specifically what's required: address (as an identifier for
the private key from a set of multiple; if you just have one
then of course
this is
trivial);
txid, output index within
that
tx, and value,
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 13:23:21 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i guess you're stuck with a much larger chunk
than originally contemplated, unexpectedly enough.
jfw: mp_en_viaje: does
the idiot list include me
this
time? I could
try
to be more mindful of when a discussion should be moved or started here
mp_en_viaje: on
the other hand, it doth offer quite
the neat solution
to
the "wtf are you going
to do with
that lordship
thing
THIS
time" conundrum.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i guess you're stuck with a much larger chunk
than originally contemplated, unexpectedly enough.
mp_en_viaje leaves off reading #ossasepia ; i guess in principle
there's nothing all
that wrong with it.
mp_en_viaje is pondering
this wonder. wtf are you idiots doing over
there ? srsly
tryina come up with all
this shit on your own, who knows, maybe it works, maybe it doesn't,
then i go read it on qntra and what, maybe i agree, maybe i don't, in any case ~after
the fact~, at which point as chance dictates, either i sever
the link or not ?
mp_en_viaje: they're liberated from having Brawndo poured on
top "because it's what plants need", and
they're also liberated from NOT having water poured on
top, because "the secretary of energy" ahs "never seen no plants grow out of no
toilet."
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 BingoBoingo: jfw dorion: What does it mean
that
these
things have been liberated? What have
they been saved from?
mp_en_viaje:
http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2020-03-09#1020492 <<
two
things. in
the positive,
the sort of non-improvements like "supporting unicode" ; discussion with such a moron recently in
trilema. in
the negative, actually adding useful
things
that
the pantsuit do not add, for whatever reason ("other priorities", "hateful
to protected groups", "illegal", whatever nonsense).
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 jfw: ah
there was also Eucrypt, part of which was a liberation of gcrypt from Werner Koch & co. right?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 jfw: I
think it's
the right sort of bother: given all
the code I ~have~ read or written it seems an important distinction as far as which category someone chooses
to
trust from me.
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 jfw: My plan is
to start next week with creating a 'gypsy code signing' key
then I suppose get
the list
together and into some kind of order.
billymg: that's what i was
telling
the local:
they are making demands without willing
to pay. if
they want lifeguard on duty
they'll be at a luxury resort paying 5x
mp_en_viaje: da fuck
tour group dun have
their own lifeguard.
mp_en_viaje: "bitch, you want ME
to designate your driver for you ?" "yes, we're really awkward."
mp_en_viaje: i wonder when
they're gonna start pestering bars, "we want
to come and spittle in a beerbotle for
three hours, but you gotta have driver."
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yeah, we had
them explain it. and it was just: need lifeguard on duty or else no swimming. didn't press
them enough re: dangers of empty pool because by
then
they had backed down
mp_en_viaje: dumb cows sitting on
their cheesy
taco all day long coming up with "standards"
billymg: he said he's never heard of
this before, in his years of organizing
these visits. but it was some "new policy"
to "eliminate risk"
billymg: mp_en_viaje: yeah,
the conversation with
the
tico was productive, he was also
throwing up his hands in disbelief at
their request. i coached him into
telling
them
to walk after realizing
they really have no other options (other hotels aren't gonna empty pools / don't have lifeguards on duty, and
tour group dun have
the budget
themselves
to hire
the lifeguard)
mp_en_viaje: billymg, if
the concept is "drunk kid wanders in at night", which is what seems
the least-dumb construction available, it's still indeed
the case empty pool more dangerous.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, i kinda
think it is.
typos aside, but anyways.
billymg: mp_en_viaje: not
to mention, empty pool == break neck on fall
mp_en_viaje: have people explain
things
to do, it's a great
tool.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, ah. so build your backchannel with him. "wtf is
this about, can you explain it
to me ? i spend money
to build pool so
they have fun,
they want it epty ?!"
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: eh, read
the whole, approx spelling is not a virtue, no; neither is a disqualifier esp online
mp_en_viaje: mailing lists are very primitive wot
things.
billymg: probably, i'm interfacing
through a nice and capable
tico who's been organizing
these groups of americans and doing business with
this property / previous owner for years now
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 dorion: jfw you subscribe
to it first so you can
then reply ? is
that how it works ?
mp_en_viaje: is
this an older female "running"
things ?
billymg: to which i said fuck off, and
they
then said, find just dun let em swim
billymg: their first request was, get
this, empty
the pool because we don't want
the risk of
the kids (college) drowning
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2020-03-09 diana_coman: jfw:
the minds
that discard
the message because of less
than perfect spelling
though might be better off enjoying
their fence.
mp_en_viaje: billymg, fucktards, how
the fuck are
they getting coronavirus in nicoya, from what,
the cows ?
mp_en_viaje: find out what sorta
troglodytes you livr with in any case, ie whether
they'll shoot any roamning dogs for instance.
mp_en_viaje: "even if you don't personally use
the internet, it's like having electricity. you can go a whole life without electricity
too! but from experience, a) you won't once it's
there ; and moreover b) if you ever sell, it sells for more."
ossabot: Logged on 2020-03-10 12:44:07 mp_en_viaje: if you get it going, can defo be on your sale list. "none of
those crappy 5kbps netlinks, we here have fiber. come do some work undisturbed while
the sluts splash in
the pool", sell
to execs.
mp_en_viaje: that can be follow-up. "hi, i got
this property right next
to yours, and we're
thinking of pushing
the x
to draw optic fiber close. would
this be something you'd like
to get into ?"
billymg: their support / commitment
to subscribe
to fiber (the collecting signatures bit)
mp_en_viaje: if you get it going, can defo be on your sale list. "none of
those crappy 5kbps netlinks, we here have fiber. come do some work undisturbed while
the sluts splash in
the pool", sell
to execs.
billymg: though it's almost more of an offer
than an ask..
billymg wonders if it would be rude
to present
this ask
to neighbors on first introduction..