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xanthyos: if i could enjoy a bachelor pad i'd love it
cazalla: xanthyos, it just sounds like you're bitching about a bachelor pad
rithm: what is a tinychat
xanthyos: maybe it's good that my emotional vomit is taken with such a cavalier attitude here
xanthyos: i try to pretend it's nto a serious medical problem
xanthyos: i find myself under a faucet of some kind or other for several hours a day
xanthyos: i use tinychat because i'm fucking depressed and i get stuck in my room for weeks at time or stuck at the ktichen sink for a 40 minute block
gribble: Error: 'xanthyos' is not a valid integer.
kakobrekla: so just over a day ago
mircea_popescu: http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120310162435/theinternetbox/images/thumb/9/9b/Watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png/620px-Watch-out-we-got-a-badass-over-here-meme.png
ben_vulpes: privilege of having a master :D
mircea_popescu: is it that the slave is actually a better human being, strictly for having had the sense to be a slave, and follow the will of a worthy master
mircea_popescu: “The poor citizen found almost all the spheres in which an honourable livelihood might be obtained wholly or at least in a very great degree preoccupied by slaves, while he had learnt to regard trade with an invincible repugnance." <<< here's a good question. how come the "free citizen" aka, delusional derp can not compete with the slave ?
mircea_popescu: jupiter had a wife. he was someone's child. etc.
ben_vulpes: as if a million log readers wondered what happened to a slave's salary, and were suddently silenced
mircea_popescu: i so loathe it when people try to serve a solid point by pious fraud.
mircea_popescu: "Also he possessed a wife and child. This, too, was a great innovation."
ben_vulpes: i felt a great disturbance in the blockchain
ben_vulpes: drew a parallel between mining and weaving
asciilifeform: all that remains is to place it aboard a sub and pump seawater for cold loop.
mircea_popescu: right ? turning a simple one way consumer into an actual integrated cycle is huge.
mircea_popescu: your costs ? .18 + .3 = ~.5 MJ to keep a 1MW circuit going perpetually.
mircea_popescu: this water has another .7MJ added by a nuclear power plant, turns to steam, powers a turbine, putting out 1MW of electricity which restarts the cycle.
mircea_popescu: well, why not ? let me run a quick model for you here.
JorgePasada: It's just that, if we're still talking about the vertically integrated mining thing, I don't see it as a viable play to accumulate wealth
mircea_popescu: well it's a fucking important distinction.
mircea_popescu: dermined the basis of social stability, by substituting the bonds established by “contract” for those dependent on “status” as a basis for social order." are little more than present nonsense anachronised.
mircea_popescu: "The resultant society, however, was still reasonably stable and probably would have lasted a very long time if it had not been for Rome’s expansionist policies, which led to the establishment of the Empire." << this notion, that it was "expansionism" that broke rome's back, together with the previous "Its power was not based on hereditary status but much more on wealth. Such a change in itself must have seriously un
asciilifeform: but when launching (peacetime) orbital rocket, one is merely gambling, not fighting a war
JorgePasada: mircea_popescu: No, but you'd have to find a way to not make it a 100% deep 0% wide business, you'd need wiggle room
asciilifeform: 'risk' is wrong word. something like a satellite launch is among the highest-risk physical investments - but people do it.
asciilifeform: it seemed like an inevitability when turned out that asic is a proposition at all
cazalla: eventually someone will come up with the idea of renaming the ponzi to a mining simulator and pitch it as such
JorgePasada: cazalla: People actually think GAW is anything but a ponzi scheme?
mircea_popescu: a well, sure, plenty of scams. those are of little consequence.
mircea_popescu: cazalla just between you and me, this bullshit "cloud mining" is a step away from pool mining in the utterly wrong direction.
decimation: " A former U.S. ambassador who had dealt with Lavrov at the United Nations described him to me as disciplined, witty and charming, a diplomat so skilled “he runs rings around us in the multilateral sphere.”"
decimation: interesting. one can probably determine a fair bit by examine the phase of the sine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'fine-grained' chumpnet rental is rare, because anyone with half a brain, when allowed to install $turd on a chump's box, can make it semi-permanent
mircea_popescu: pick a coupla days and hope someone cares.
mircea_popescu: no, but if you only can afford 10 hours a week, what do you do ?
cazalla: mircea_popescu, it's intermittent, can't get a post up though :\
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes lmao. jus' a typo!
mircea_popescu: i suppose one could put their bed on a gravimeter, the evaluate the fucking quality
asciilifeform: from a good distance.
asciilifeform: may be possible to detect a large parcel of Au gravimetrically.
asciilifeform: very sensitive gravimeter can fit in a truck
asciilifeform: incidentally: here's a free11!11! mindphuck:
decimation: http://spaceweather.com/ "Some experts reading these reports on Spaceweather.com have pointed out that X-rays and gamma-rays represent only a fraction of the radiation present at aviation altitudes. The true dose could be doubled or tripled by neutrons, a component of cosmic rays known to be especially good at delivering energy to human tissue. "
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << video camera inline with sensor axis too, yeah?
mircea_popescu: (a cockapede, being, of course, a creature walking on its cocks)
mircea_popescu: your pauses are pregnant like a thousand cockapedes fucked them raw.
mircea_popescu: mats_cd03:you have potential for the stage my man << he has a point, you know.
decimation: if a lion could speak we would not understand him
mircea_popescu: so bookshop owner also had a mechanic shop and the two were next to each other but the later was in argentina ?
mircea_popescu: wait, you had a workshop in argentina ?!
asciilifeform found it in a dusty old rathole oldbookery next to his (argentinian!) mechanic's shop
mircea_popescu: anyway, yeah goldsmith. not a bad read.
mircea_popescu: a lot of plastic spoons you mean ?
mircea_popescu: you know the sort of blowjobs you'd get in moscow for a pair of jeans, cca 1993 ?
decimation: it's a good game
JorgePasada: "Ok I'll let you in, even though I shouldn't. Don't come here again without a plan."
nubbins`: happened to me once: "so you flew to london for a day, spent a week in marrakech... then back to london for 12 hours, and now back to canada?" "ah... when you put it that way..."
decimation: apparently if you camp for 3 months you deserve a pension
mircea_popescu: JorgePasada me coming here, "where are you going to stay ?" "no idea" "you know i have to put something in the machine ?" "recomend a good hotel ?" "x" "wut ?" "X!" "write it down wouldja" guy gives me a postit. "ok, so that's where i'll be staying".
JorgePasada: "How do we know you won't stay here if you don't have a return ticket?" - 'For starters I can work from wherever I want and It's 3 times the cost of living here..."
JorgePasada: "What do you mean you don't know?" - 'I mean I'm going to a wedding and it's in 3 days and I have a phone and the internet'
nubbins`: costs me at least a couple hundred to leave this island
decimation: you don't need a visa but the queen wouldn't mind a tenner
decimation: http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/536967/Labour-Yvette-Cooper-general-election-vow-toughen-immigration-rules <<lol "She outlined a proposal which would employ another 1,000 border guards - by levying a £10 charge on visa waivers for arrivals from countries such as the US."
mats_cd03: 21:04:31 <+asciilifeform> the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks') << what would be the purpose of this exercise?
mircea_popescu: and it turns out it's a ... tungsten rock, with a few milimeters of gold on top
mircea_popescu: the lulz of all time, of course, is if someone finds a ten or fifty cubic kilometer solid gold meteorite in the ice sheet, however deep
kakobrekla: unlikley is also a block at 100 bn diff
mircea_popescu: a pure gold meteorite is about as likely as a prostitute with a heart of gold
kakobrekla: a reasonably sized undiscovered gold meteorite would change this significantly ?
kakobrekla: red dwarfs is as much as a star as sun is
mircea_popescu: otherwise you just get a jupiter, aka gas giant. not a star, but a planet.
kakobrekla: sun is a star no?
mircea_popescu: stuff above lead require a really huge one.
mircea_popescu: but in fact stuff past nickel/iron requires a supernva.
asciilifeform: the one thing i would do if permitted to walk in a mega-vault of au is... bring a pocket geiger along (the kind that logs to flash rom, not the kind that 'clicks')
asciilifeform: 1000kg of Au would fit in a large suitcase.
asciilifeform: r. nixon went on a tour of knox (afaik the only president since fdr.) he was, iirc, even permitted to... touch! a bar.
mircea_popescu: (contrary to common belief, a ton of gold isn't that impressive a pile_
mircea_popescu: or at least you could, a few years back.
mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash << actually, romanian central bank holds ~112 tons currently, you can pay ~15 bucks and go on a tour
asciilifeform: for anything larger than a coin
decimation: asciilifeform: agreed. unfortunately, unlike the blockchain, very few have personally witnessed a real gold stash
asciilifeform: (Au is a fascinatingly multi-layered bezzlecake. i.e., does your paper Au correspond to physical Au that you could redeem for? if so, what fraction? and if redeemed, how much tungsten in the bars? and if no tungsten, what will happen to you and your gold after it is known to be sitting in your pocket? etc)
decimation: asciilifeform: re: medium << usg had a point, now encryption is 'available'
decimation: mircea_popescu: you make a good point re: plastic forks - generally in the us they are supplied with low quality food
asciilifeform: 'How does he . . . can he, in fact, reestablish a sense of trust?' << lol!
mats_cd03: 19:59:25 <fivezerotwo> wanna ddos anybody? << a nice PM. whaddya all think? got any targets?
asciilifeform: 'petertodd jrayhawk: it's interesting how more than one tor dev I've spoken too firmly believes Werner Koch - gnupg maintainer - is a NSA/BND plant with the goal of ensuring gnupg remains unusable (e.g. strong opposition to any attempt to make it into a library)'
asciilifeform: ever lift a stone in a garden and discover a hundred species crawling ?
asciilifeform: #bitcoin-wizards << lol! usg has own #b-a now! 'with hookers, and blackjack!'
asciilifeform: r had to undergo considerable modifications. It could, in fact, no longer remain a tribal city.'
asciilifeform: 'However, their voluntary exile was short-lived. This structureless mass of people was incapable of creating a city on the model of that which they had known. Consequently they returned to Rome and after many struggles established themselves as citizens of the Republic. If they were eventually enfranchised, it was that they had become culturally absorbed into Roman society, but for this to be possible the latte
asciilifeform: it happened as the very complex roman religions were brought closer to the understanding of teh plebs << goldsmith's 'great u-turn' had a superb if very compact intro to this process: http://www.edwardgoldsmith.org/28