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mircea_popescu: !~google "the promise, eagerly offered, the hope, eagerly swallowed"
mircea_popescu: "i did 9k wikipedia spelling corrections this year" "you mean the year gaping as a hole in your employment history ?" "oh, that's not important. progress! revolution! everything is connected! ubi!"
ben_vulpes: more on the "compulsively answers questions on quora"
mircea_popescu: all i'm sayin' is that as batshing insane as it may sound on the face, i have personal experience with the ample supply of "cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game".
mircea_popescu: what's missing to your taste ben_vulpes ?
ben_vulpes: exceptionally short thread omg
mircea_popescu: ah i did ? ok then. /me passes by reference.
asciilifeform: iirc mircea_popescu described this, in the 'golden helicopter' thread
mircea_popescu: the slavegirls are rarely solo when we meet. generally they're in a committed relationship / engaged / whatever. about half the time the beta in question is the "graduate student" type who compulsively answers questions on quora etc.
mircea_popescu: afaik this is common. here's where mp shares a little personal tidbit :
ben_vulpes: who knows if they even read their bouncer's scrollback instead of cycling through fifteen channels marking them as read in some inane, personal score-keeping game
mircea_popescu: ah, so let them, what.
ben_vulpes: for as long as randos can join #trilema and lurk they will do so instead of reading the logs
ben_vulpes: doesn't strike me as a "needs" thing. will be a "can" thing for as long as mircea_popescu refrains from turning the lights on and setting +i or whichever arcane fleanode flag
mircea_popescu: who knew the difficulty there isn't technical.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: it's the safe and easy space in between "i am a gentoo nerd and have an irc bouncer" and "i am willing to undertake gpg key mgmt as the basis of identity"
mircea_popescu: "who are you ?" "sorry i can't say because really i want to be a dragon and you'll laugh."
mircea_popescu: i have nfi when "i can't commit to existing" became socially acceptable. we used to laugh at the drones who couldn't commit to mariage 30 years ago, then i fell asleep in front of the silver screen post blowjob and i wake up... suddenly it's everywhere.
asciilifeform: ( tangentially -- i have nfi, to this day, why 'hi, i'm a lurker' needs to sit logged in. can read logs ! )
asciilifeform: was there more to this exchange than visible here ?
mircea_popescu: dork. he's found who to escalate with.
CompanionCube is hapy to leave if you want
asciilifeform: but i know 0 else about CompanionCube . or the other one, whose name escapes me
asciilifeform: well the original tip from him was re an item that was not indexed by any (afaik) searcher.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger also guilty of this in spades
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform so far doing the whole "hey guise i can google plox like me" schtick which is getting on my nerves.
mircea_popescu: that doesn;t tell me anything. do you personalyl know him ?
asciilifeform: iirc a lurker/reader. was also the d00d who wrote to asciilifeform re the bolix genera thing.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes who exactly is this guy anyway ?
ben_vulpes: b-but mircea_popescu how is one supposed to authenticate to a database server over the webternet?
mircea_popescu: "How do I use SSL encryption properly?" "SSL (resp. TLS, as SSL v2/v3 is already broken but name SSL is commonly used for TLS protocol) implementation or protocol itself isn't affected"
ben_vulpes: god i hate this shit
ben_vulpes: > Are you blind? Don't you see the above logo? It is an indisputable fact that it is a critical vulnerability available on the Internet.
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I think I just got forgetful. Weather's been good for playing in dirt.
asciilifeform: modern chinese gov is smarter than mao's, won't hamhandedly dekulakize, nationalize the mining farms. will instead drive them slightly farther into -ev , and they will simply be sold off to pliant shell corps
Framedragger tried to joke
Framedragger: hah transcendent sex academy.. so in that realm in the comic, when dude puts transcendentally-ideal penis in vagina.. is that the infamous 'synthetic a priori' act??
mircea_popescu: o wow they got active huh
asciilifeform: davout: from my (admittedly distant) chair, it'd appear that chinese gov strategy was, roughly, 'this bitcoin heresy, let's wait for the americans to kill it, it's the kind of wetwork they specialize in'. and when this failed, now they smell burning flesh, 'looks like gotta do everything ourselves'
Framedragger: (obvs if this 'works out' -- remains to be seen...)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: plenty of real estate in western yurop still up for sale. a *lot* of it may crash soon, but 'pockets' of it (e.g., specific places in italy (which in itself may / will crash, depending on your outlook) may be good investment, and they acknowledge that
davout: asciilifeform: they're being forced not to honor IOUs to be very precise
mircea_popescu: works then
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: chinese and other (e.g., south korean) bankers told a dude whom i believe in and who's paying me
asciilifeform: Framedragger: i can hardly picture how it could be any easier, iirc they already de facto own ~all real estate anywhere that is for sale
mircea_popescu: for my curiosity, are you developing this "product" because a chinese dude told you so ?
Framedragger developing product to make real estate investment for chinese easier, actually. will report results and types of failure if any and if possible..
asciilifeform: this strange notion, that you can have a 'your' bitcoin where privkey is held by somebody else, is a serious problem imho.
asciilifeform: if you didn't generate the privkey for it -- it ain't bitcoin
mircea_popescu: all sorts of things work as cp, including bitcoin, heads of usg "operatives", etc.
mircea_popescu: you can lift a million in cash off the chinese doing supermarkets offshore for instance, on a few hour's notice.
davout: tell exchanges "don't send them, or else"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: does there in fact exist a 'free world' of non-kyctronic fiatola banking ?
mircea_popescu: the grues won't come to eat them in the night eh.
hanbot: <mircea_popescu> why the fuck would anyone deal with the sort of schmucks that do thjat in the first place, i have no idea. << sure you do, people just love easy-to-complete tasks that earn them an "everything's okay" signal from authority. even if that authority consists of a crayon-drawn badge paperclipped to dork's lapel @ supermarket exit.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck would anyone deal with the sort of schmucks that do thjat in the first place, i have no idea.
mircea_popescu: "aml/kyc" is for the birds, to be very plain.
asciilifeform: 'failure to collect KYC paperwork for 34 customers, failure to report 9 customers to legal enforcement on suspicions of money laundering, and failure to further interrogate 20 customers, for which the declared wealth allegedly didn't match the transaction volumes.' << lol!
asciilifeform: ( suddenly you have, e.g., an intrinsically-safe (cut the field - cuts the reaction) betavoltaic reactor that fits in pocket, runs on ordinary KCl... )
asciilifeform: btw the 'beta decay can be arbitrarily sped up in magnetic field' throws a bit of new light on just how 'strange, new' a world with roomtemp supercon would be.
asciilifeform: ( if 1890s folx had given up on airplane, same way today's grant-eaters gave up on, e.g., room-temp superconductor, could have gone quite differently )
asciilifeform: it is not even clear which these are, except in retrospect.
asciilifeform: ( where, e.g. in 1890s they were flight, radio, few other lessers )
mircea_popescu: i think so.
asciilifeform: we had, iirc, a 'problems of the age' thread
mircea_popescu: this "oh, but mp, i'm interested in other things, i'm speshul" is more adlaism bullshit. THERE AREN'T OTHER THINGS.
mircea_popescu: it's self contained. you learn what you need by confronting the things here you don't know.
asciilifeform: ( and if only alphabet. there is a quite serious qualification to meaningfully starting to learn from the l0gz, yes )
asciilifeform: you start with alphabet. which i dun recall being taught here, either
mircea_popescu: and you MAY NOT pretend you're not at the start if you are at the start.
mircea_popescu: you do not start with galois theoryu.
asciilifeform: can learn , e.g., galois theory, from the l0gz ?
mircea_popescu: See http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ is there for a reason. there's NO OTHERR WAY to learn.
mircea_popescu: noobs learning from anything, be it a thief, be it their mother, be it hillary clinton, be it bernstein, be it ANYONE is very harmful to them.
asciilifeform: thread wasn't about 'which one gets into valhalla, maxwell or marconi', however. i specifically assert that n00bs ~learning~ from the thief -- whose achievement is essentially accidental, quite destructive overall to everybody else, and at any rate in no sense ~replicable~ -- vs from the maxwell - is the problem.
mircea_popescu: and i have every intention to credit everything to the first wot person to bring it up, not to the "originator". fuck him. should have had a wot.
mircea_popescu: the overarching point is that technical merit doesn't enter into this.
asciilifeform: woz drew up a 6502 box with slightly reduced glue logic chip count, vs the state of art at the time. about same level of accomplishment as, e.g., fuckgoats.
mircea_popescu: so then.
asciilifeform: and to hear the inmates, in every asylum - 100 napoleons
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform to hear him recount it, he was the maxwell/hertz of job's marconi or some such.
mircea_popescu: you eat too much, you get fat ; you jwz, you get pissed on. shouldn't be so hard.
mircea_popescu: there isn't going to be a divine kingdom of the heavens insulating dumb bitches from their inept choices in locales to get drunk into and badly washed dorks from their inept choices in whom to submit to and what to obey.
mircea_popescu: i am also not impressed with wozniak's teary stories.
asciilifeform: exactly the gates of his time
asciilifeform: btw marconi was a pretty good example of 'opportunistic thief'
mircea_popescu: what, you think i'm excusing him in my mind ? i'm not. fuck him.
mircea_popescu: and you know what, that "there wasn't" is scarcely any excuse. why didn't they make it, these MEN ? if they're so respectable and errything.
asciilifeform: no tmsr in '12 either
asciilifeform: rather than today.
asciilifeform: i thought thread was re: the age of the great pirates.
mircea_popescu: but today there is.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was not a tmsr in '09. bitcoin was quite equivalent, by afaik any possible litmus, to similar crackpotteries which were known then.
mircea_popescu: literally "broken in the ass".
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's about what you'd call a twink in english, ie a teenaged gay prostitute. generally applied to the aged variant nobody anymore seriously contemplates paying for.
mircea_popescu: that reason is, "infantile delusion of having been in lab before completing the basic steps ARE NAUGHT BUT INFANTILE DELUSIONS."\
asciilifeform: hanbot: at one point i tried to unearth what rotinculos (other than a portmanteau, presumably, rotten arse) were , and gave up
mircea_popescu: in order for item to go into lab, item must first pass maturity exam. become man as opposed to child. See http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/ is there for a reason.
mircea_popescu: EVEN if they think it does.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no. in mp's conception, lab does not take all comers.