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mircea_popescu: suppose suppose the lordship owns the world, in all particulars, entirely. the last rebel was long ago executed. i can write to any and all doctors, "hey, please X". so can you. so can etcetera.
mircea_popescu: i don't think you were following my "suppose". let's do over.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the item you were thinking of, then, i'd call impedance mismatch loss, rather than plain resistive
mircea_popescu: believe this or not, i reach such levels of chinese emperorhood.
mircea_popescu: yeah, that's a whole other can of intricate strange. i wasn't gonna address it till as you say, some l1 folks move on.
asciilifeform can speak only for self, but on various occasions risked piggy bank to try an' convert from serf to d00d who '100% worx from cause', but on each occasion lost shirt. maybe other l1 folx will have better fortune, and sit on mt olympus with mircea_popescu , i dun presently expect to
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform falls sick, and he suddenly has 95 surgeons at his bedstand, because well known and respected and so on. meanwhile young'un dies somewhere i nsilence. asciilifeform could have readily dispensed with the spurious 95th surgeon, kept 94. but... power laws right, and http://trilema.com/2013/stage-n-bitcoin-exists/#selection-101.196-101.253
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd hope that mircea_popescu knows how to drive a taiwan, cuz chances are that i'd wrap it around a telephone pole, lol
mircea_popescu: taiwan will have to have a governor, and i will do what ? name the most capable ? the most bored ? suppose we do the medieval thing and separate the work from the benefice. then who gets the latter ? and so on.
asciilifeform: i dun complain that, e.g., mircea_popescu pays for ice cream but not udplib, it's his dubloons, just as he dun complain that asciilifeform buys ice cream instead of euloratronium, errybody is master of own chest, large or small
mircea_popescu: i guess it'd better.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that is ~exactly~ what i'm leveraging : ALL abstractions are "closed-source" by their very nature -- witness how cats don't read them. then let's use this natural barrier to select the future lordship.
asciilifeform: i.e. just about all of the problems of 'closed' world , were re-created on substrate of 'open', without anyone so much as deliberately trying
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 18:01 asciilifeform: i dun work for prizes, medals, mircea_popescu knows this.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo there's little sadder in creation than overstretched underachievers, "oh, i got perfect sat scores" "why ?"
asciilifeform: ( and will add, it is ordinarily trivial to distinguish folx who theorem 'from causes' from the ones who 'for purposes' i.e. 'maybe someone throws penny into hat' )
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here. << And he did it for (((packing))) Peanuts!
asciilifeform: i'm not convinced that naggum would've disagreed with this formulation tho
mircea_popescu: doctor goes "well... i guess i could sleep... but i dun feel like it... or i could farm... meh farming... let's see if there's something interesting to do".
mircea_popescu: doctor does not sit in er room going "i hope someone shows up or else i starve".
asciilifeform: i did say 'without expectation of moolah' neh
mircea_popescu: ie, i would propose as a foundational myth, "avik killed naggum". there's something here.
mircea_popescu: otherwise, what we're building will collapse. and i can prove it, too -- very much goedelian crunch.
mircea_popescu: and all my reservations re naggum, historically, came from this elinson flavour i here and there detected.
mircea_popescu: (by which i mean, specifically "i know i'm a hack, and i know i have a finite time until they figure it out, so the more i make while saying the least -- the better")
mircea_popescu: leaving aside my observation of anyone else's experience -- the "here's mp-wp codebase" has not appreciably destroyed something as far as i can tell.
mircea_popescu: yet i do not agree with his "destroy value" view.
mircea_popescu: i believe.
mircea_popescu: but open code is rather the direct underpinning of items like http://trilema.com/2016/i-am-firmly-against-universal-franchise/
asciilifeform: in practice the friction of 'closed' is finite. bolix is as closed as it gets and i'ma still rape it.
mircea_popescu: if, in point of fact, code is kept under wraps, you are, in point of fact, forcing the world into a "things lay where they fell" scheme, and slavery becomes untenable (and deeply something i can't support).
mircea_popescu: and you can't say "she should read trilema and figure shit out". a slave doesn't have this, a slave will do what random moron tells them to, which i guess would be going to college or some shit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from reading of whole naggum corpus, i am under impression that he certainly knew this.
asciilifeform: i mailed it in as a qntra fodder the other day
mircea_popescu: i wonder how many people ignored the dumbass before she formed the notion that the problem isn't her being stupid -- but other people being old.
mircea_popescu: i have no fucking idea who thought accessibility is a good idea.
mircea_popescu: why the fuck do i want to carry through the world a huge pile of tech debt ?
mircea_popescu: i utterly don't need a scriptable wrapper to do string manipulation, what the holy shit is this, onyl someone who grew up on c strings can imagine such nonsense.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 23:38 asciilifeform: in older lulz, 1d 18h left on the https://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-MacIvory-model-3-8-MW-in-an-Apple-Quadra-650-80-MB-9-GB-Genera-8-3/113428507092 auction; i'ma bid, and if can get for under 5 , will have the thing xray tomographied ( sadly i have a quite finite budget presently for the proj )
asciilifeform: i care strictly when stuck cleaning up the splatter with own hand.
asciilifeform: i want searchable-errywhere.
asciilifeform: if i were writing for dead tree, would've latexed long ago. but i aint
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i saw the plugin thing earlier. it has exactly same problem as latex-by-hand -- bitmapism, resulting in nonsearchable and nonseeable-in-lynx etc text
mircea_popescu: i wake up, with a bladder fulla pee and a bladder fulla words. and more than half the time it's the 2nd that actually makes snoozing impossible.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-04 00:58 asciilifeform: i dun expect these will ever be OCR'd, hand-typesetted-cum-diagrams newtonola is possibly a bridge too far for ocr.
mircea_popescu: east of the hajnal line, "fair" means "it's true i'm a poor peasant who needs this chunk of bread, yet the devil saw it first and well... fair is fair"
phf: i was confused by the correctness/fairness thread, until i realized that the use of the word "fair" has changed to its complete opposite from the traditional western use. in folklore fair is a sometimes begrudging recognition and internal compromise of correctness: something is not to your liking, but it's fair, i.e. correct
a111: Logged on 2018-12-10 19:38 mircea_popescu: speaking of which : https://i.ibb.co/rcgdpmC/Screenshot-29.png << should be fun to see how "BDSM Liberals" take it.
mircea_popescu: turns out i foind a perfect job for it.
a111: Logged on 2018-03-14 04:52 ben_vulpes: they've always been my "wrong tool for every job"; i'd rather have a set of deep sockets in pretty much every situation.
asciilifeform: trinque: i was never able to build it under orginary glibc either.
trinque: asciilifeform: I failed repeatedly to build chrome on musl, said "fuck it", dustbinned.
mircea_popescu: eh, i'm not rewritting x.
asciilifeform: i dunget why it can't simply live in framebuffer (fughet even x)
asciilifeform: tbf i have utterly nfi why thing even needs gtk at all
asciilifeform: it dun build even on ordinary gentoo, last i knew
trinque: asciilifeform: I've built ff on musl with various rando's patches, have one running currently
asciilifeform: i would say 'let's' but not equipped to say what was 'last good sores', near as i can tell the thing has sucked for as long as existed
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether trinque froze the sores of that thing
asciilifeform: in older lulz, 1d 18h left on the https://www.ebay.com/itm/Symbolics-MacIvory-model-3-8-MW-in-an-Apple-Quadra-650-80-MB-9-GB-Genera-8-3/113428507092 auction; i'ma bid, and if can get for under 5 , will have the thing xray tomographied ( sadly i have a quite finite budget presently for the proj ) ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 22:29 mircea_popescu: i dunno that civ which can't make si ball can use pre-provided microscopic multers or w/e.
asciilifeform: re: petrowank : asciilifeform also not expert, but last i recall arabs were 'peaked' while ru ramping for 50+y and onwards; hence the pantsuit's perennial interest in picking up last reich's torch and 'spreading demoocracy' there
mircea_popescu: i dunno that civ which can't make si ball can use pre-provided microscopic multers or w/e. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( a la wootz -- i.e. 'we have nfi how this worx but here it is' )
asciilifeform: i bet it's same sound as the particulate from the omnipresent powdered car windshields over here lol
asciilifeform: ( does mircea_popescu have pic ? i've never seen volcanic sand close up )
asciilifeform: 1000+yrs of уравниловка (btw how do we say that in ro? i'd like to know) dun wear off so quickly.
asciilifeform: ( and not simply peasants, but serfs, i.e. land gets mortmain'd by master, so no accum )
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 21:44 mircea_popescu: not afaik. tho honestly the idiocy of "equity" as practiced in common law / intuited by the runts in every litter + their enablers is such monumental nonsense as i don't expect can be readily unpacked.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-11#1879840 << i suspect that it prolly unpacks ok if seen through lens of 'wooden civ' peasant, where 'errybody is roughly same, working same shit soil, so oughta have ~same harvest' ☝︎
asciilifeform: pretty hard to get a good cutting edge from plain sio2 ( try it some time ). with glass ( i.e. with na as well as si & o ) you get the requisite shear. so cuts.
diana_coman: it always sounded rather...menacingly/cold to me, lol; ash != sand I'd say
diana_coman: I can see it easily; it's a human right to have it easy in whatever definition of easy one might have floating by
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> do they also use "cuesta mucho" for "it's not fair"? it'd be quite on point at least from what I can tell << Around here they usually bitch about their derechos
mircea_popescu: not afaik. tho honestly the idiocy of "equity" as practiced in common law / intuited by the runts in every litter + their enablers is such monumental nonsense as i don't expect can be readily unpacked. ☟︎
diana_coman: since asciilifeform was asking re what does "it's not fair" mean - from what I can tell, precisely that: if one finds it hard, then it's not fair
diana_coman: do they also use "cuesta mucho" for "it's not fair"? it'd be quite on point at least from what I can tell
mircea_popescu: amusingly, spanish (which is terrible re cognates btw, it fails to distinguish between expecting [esperar] and hoping [esperancia] and so on) uses the same word for both "it's expensive" (cuesta mucho) and "i find it difficult" ("me cuesta").
diana_coman: I think it's simply a matter of effort-avoidance, what; i.e. change aka innovation is always "hard" so by consensus subversion will be attempted until ~all possible attempts are exhausted, sort of thing
diana_coman: well yes, I don't see how can "inclusion" happen without subversion, no
phf: oh, i don't know what you guys achieved in html mode, because i'm looking at the result in lynx
asciilifeform: phf: i fucking hate ------------'s
mircea_popescu: i think it prolly makes it more readable, and also has the merit of making the ad-hockery less ad-hockish/more rulebased.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-11 20:18 mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're happy with fixwidth font and "works in terminal" i also don't see your problem, wrap in <pre> tags and so something like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4NHpp/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: yes well. none of this works with a fixwidth display. not that i'm against having font scaling separate by heigh and width, but currently, it dun exist.
mircea_popescu: yeah, well, i don't think they implemented arbitrary shearing of fonts.
asciilifeform: i dun want'em ~wide~
mircea_popescu: what do you mean "not turned up" lol. it's in the article i just linked you.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fortunately i dun have any complex subexpressions in exponents anywhere in ffa notebook.
asciilifeform: ( if there existed a 'height' attribute for font, it would entirely solve. but i have not turned up any such thing existing. )
asciilifeform: the annoying bit is that in e.g. http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2238 i was able to make html do a very close approx to the customary formatting.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i actually started with that. and tempted to return to it.
mircea_popescu: anyway, if you're happy with fixwidth font and "works in terminal" i also don't see your problem, wrap in <pre> tags and so something like http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/4NHpp/?raw=true ☟︎
asciilifeform: ~those~ , oddly enuff, i had 0prob with
asciilifeform: i'd like to show that moderately maffs-heavy bl0gps0t is possible without bitmapism, possibly bridge too far
asciilifeform: i was going for 'keeps being readable in lynx like the prev chapters'
mircea_popescu: i didn't realise what you want was "some kind of notation that works in terminal and gui equally".
asciilifeform: as for the parens, floor, etc, ugh, i dun want'em wide, i want'em ~tall~
mircea_popescu: get the bimbo anotehr year plox. i dun recall what the deal was with mocky right off, ima have to dig it up
asciilifeform: i considered to use ansi drawing chars for the floor, that'd prolly do it