mircea_popescu: aren't 3 too many ?

mircea_popescu: yeah. ima put it in A.

mircea_popescu: entropy ios probably best.

mircea_popescu: and if we ARE stuck with some sort of randomness in there, contrary to my original intuition,

mircea_popescu: yeah ok, "all functions" does not work, i give. and it's not sal;vageable.

mircea_popescu ponders if he took it too far

mircea_popescu: you don't have to use THE SAME ecc.

mircea_popescu: as now.

mircea_popescu: yes.

mircea_popescu: i put it to you bitcoion would still exist and function.

mircea_popescu: this as a rule of the universe, not avoidable. perfectly deterministic anything and everything.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform let's for a second presume, as a thought experiment, that magically any call to a random function returned 5.

mircea_popescu: does not, no.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform lemme put it this way : their problem has nothing to do with bitcoin, but with their head.

mircea_popescu: this is also not a "how to save" or "how to put out fires" guide.

mircea_popescu: why exactly is this a problem ?

mircea_popescu: i don't think it was idiotic. they spent their bitcoin.

mircea_popescu: let me put it in these terms asciilifeform : if you actually need the concept of random to have bitcoin, this reduces to a situationb of "whosoever has priviledged access to random owns bitcoin".

mircea_popescu: easy to explain. idjits.

mircea_popescu: i do not think you actually have to have the concept of random to have bitcoin

mircea_popescu: that's for a different class.

mircea_popescu: nice but nah.

mircea_popescu: and this is not a "bitcoin technician" test.

mircea_popescu: i dun think ecc is integral to bitcoin

mircea_popescu: imo nails it

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "Discuss perfect forward secrecy, in the broader context of mathematical guarantees."

mircea_popescu: a.

mircea_popescu: (imo it was in 6 already, but anyway)

mircea_popescu: im putting it in 6.

mircea_popescu: what, you think i was born with it or something.

mircea_popescu: this is what learning is : reading the logs.

mircea_popescu: no big deal.

mircea_popescu: there's a science to these

mircea_popescu: Adlai yes but let the answerer point this out

mircea_popescu: so it is.

mircea_popescu: yeah, you're right

mircea_popescu: instead of schelling maybe ?

mircea_popescu: good!

mircea_popescu: it inquires as to what you know.

mircea_popescu: it did not say at any point "do" or "do not do".

mircea_popescu: well yes that.

mircea_popescu: which the underlying function is not ready to handle

mircea_popescu: in one famous case, because this allows you to pass a null parameter

mircea_popescu: it was, yes.

mircea_popescu: right

mircea_popescu: you think we\re discussing F(F(F(x))) whereas we did not say a=b=F

mircea_popescu: whereas no. this is not said.

mircea_popescu: but you presume you'd use the same thing.

mircea_popescu: right ?

mircea_popescu: mistake fixing

mircea_popescu: oh b-5

mircea_popescu: "bitcoin - be your own bank! wut ?"

mircea_popescu: dont want too much googlable shit anyway

mircea_popescu: ima do that instead of hash.

mircea_popescu: good point huh.

mircea_popescu: i was aiming for that nebulous cloud.

mircea_popescu: instead of hash ?

mircea_popescu: (/me doubts anyone here would pass section B, fwiw)

mircea_popescu: especially re the math and cs.

mircea_popescu: what's missing ?

mircea_popescu: just - the broad scheme should be visible, so might as well share.

mircea_popescu: so make sugestions.

mircea_popescu: note that it's a draft yet at rfc stage and im still actively working on it

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform & everyone interested : http://trilema.com/2015/basic-bitcoin-competency-certification/

mircea_popescu: anyway, im writing this "Basic Bitcoin Competency Certification", bbs.

mircea_popescu: at least a decade.

mircea_popescu: scala is fucking dead.

mircea_popescu: !up phf_

mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski thatre's a dead concern everywhere. and even opera.

mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ;;later tell felipelalli you sent the thing to ~me~ instead of the ml <<< ahahaha epic.

mircea_popescu: got traditions to upkeep :D

mircea_popescu: a which reminds me, trinque make sure pete_dushenski blog is only rss'd like randopmly one in 5

mircea_popescu: long ago

mircea_popescu: (the kink.com armory)

mircea_popescu: mats cool, it could join the armory ?

mircea_popescu: !h

mircea_popescu: !j

mircea_popescu: mats aha

mircea_popescu: wtf am i gonna do tho, make it multiple choice ?!

mircea_popescu: dja promise to lol at it ?

mircea_popescu is half tempted to write this.

mircea_popescu: depends.

mircea_popescu: "had a cunt 5years ago, still has it - clearly qualified as woman"

mircea_popescu: good if unrelated.

mircea_popescu: "do you see a 5 here ? no ? you're blind mofo"

mircea_popescu: same thing as the color test was. or should have been,

mircea_popescu: so random person can score their own proficiency.

mircea_popescu: you know this occurs to me - it WOULD be helpful if we had an actual "Bitcoin Basics Qualification" thing.

mircea_popescu: lolz.

mircea_popescu: oh.

mircea_popescu: "A Certified Bitcoin Professional is knowledgeable about the Bitcoin blockchain, Bitcoin transactions, and how the Bitcoin network operates. CBPs are able to apply Bitcoin technology to their professional area of expertise"

mircea_popescu: Bitcoin Professionals - Looking For Bitcoin Talent? Ad www.cryptoconsortium.org <<< someone got so many "bitcoin professionals" they're paying google to help give them away.

mircea_popescu: mno.

mircea_popescu: like with any other woman.

mircea_popescu: and im very fond of the sea for just as long as the distance between us is my decision.

mircea_popescu: "we found some old tigers and we made them boats!"

mircea_popescu: btw you ever seen their formidable class ?

mircea_popescu: i don't live on staten island, either.

mircea_popescu: still with the fucking islands ?

mircea_popescu: it's disgustingly sweet.