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trinque: that thing's in beautiful shape though.
pete_dushenski: lol all of ontario rental properties now subject to 'rent control' capping rate of increase at that of inflation WITH MAX OF 2.5%YOY. because if inflation is higher than 2.5% it doesn't count so don't be a terrorist mkay. lol that place is so broke.
pete_dushenski: 'bout the size of new f150. popular choice.
ben_vulpes: i'll take one busted 20-year old f350 tyvm
pete_dushenski: in other nuts to crack, one for asciilifeform http://www.gameandfishmag.com/hunting-tips-and-tactics/4-key-tactics-for-successful-squirrel-hunting/ ☟︎
pete_dushenski: http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1989-toyota-land-cruiser-fj62-3/ << $55k for 28yo toyotruck not enough! reserve not met. bonkers bubble. cc trinque ben_vulpes ☟︎
asciilifeform: can't speak for others, but i find it difficult to take such a fella seriously.
asciilifeform: because apparently he thought that being a public whore is worth the fivebux/mo or whatever it paid.
asciilifeform: exactly same liquishit on 'the guardian', 'new york times', and this derp ☟︎
asciilifeform: the most irritating imho thing is that the crud is EXACTLY the same on ~all 'popular' www.
asciilifeform: for a supposed enemy of the empire, to host that liquishit ( incidentally it is produced in concert with traditional spammers, i have an entire mailbox that has become unusable because it takes in flashlight spam faster than it can be removed ) is a disgrace.
asciilifeform: and the author of the linked www oughta be horsewhipped. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ftr the 'revcontent' -- '16 things flashlight sellers don't want you to know about the 16 best selfies taken before death' etc. is loathesome
BingoBoingo: Aha, comp usa didn't sell machines. They sold "service plans" and "financing"
asciilifeform: we have one of these also
trinque: there's a decent store 10min away that stocks about as well as newegg, can go get something once I have the apu2 and see what will fit nicely in the case.
asciilifeform: i disrecommend the use of the sd card hole, it is (unsurprisingly) agonizingly slow.
asciilifeform: iirc it has 3 sockets for the latter.
asciilifeform: ( it has sata plug, but no room in the case for a 2.5 inch disk; typically people get 'm-sata' laptop-style ssd for these )
asciilifeform: trinque: what kind of drive will you use in the apu2?
trinque: re: musl and X, you have to tell it in xorg.conf what order to load modules in. had this for intel, but don't know the proper incantation yet for amd/ati
trinque: also have an apu2 on the way which will be a dedicated gentoo+musl. I'll write up the unboxing and gentooing of that guy when it arrives.
trinque: I dug a glibc trench for now while I fiddle with musl+X
trinque: musl and x11 are angry at each other yet, something to do with the way x11 loads modules
asciilifeform: trinque: how did the gentoo go ?
trinque: appears that way.
trinque emerges from the gentoo cave, like the Lord, three days later
mircea_popescu: anyway, vaguely curious if the russians are actually going to try the espionage case or just bury the schmuck in a hole somewhere.
mircea_popescu: had the usg terrorist organisation done it, it'd have been all a-ok by these wrecker's lights.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you don't get it : the russians did it.
shinohai: "In the meantime, the Debian Project has taken measures to secure its systems by removing Dmitry's keys in the case that they are compromised." This will in no way affect our ability to provide you with compromised keys.
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/Ihgo4 << and then debian revokes his commit. as if it weren't 'tor exit node operating', haskell-teaching, fine folx who made debian what it is today, poetteringolade
jhvh1: shinohai: The operation succeeded.
shinohai: !~later tell BingoBoingo http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/51uVA/?raw=true
mircea_popescu: which is why eugenics sticks to one but not the other, say.
mircea_popescu: the jpm school, not being jewish, simply aims to you know, resolve THE PROBLEM of this property, like they'd cure the common cold or the misfortune of being black.
mircea_popescu: the hamilton school, money as symbol, attempts to construct a grammar of the world wherein money is a word like all the others, and with it finally complete the ancient kaballah task of reading the true bible.
asciilifeform: ( omfg the poverty of english !! )
mircea_popescu: yes. it doesn't mean "money-as-property" in the sense of "old destroyed world, i get to keep my money". it means money as property in the sense of, money IS A PROPERTY of other objects. like being the color red. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-04-20 13:49 mircea_popescu: one is to regard it as a symbol, the other is to regard it as a property.
mircea_popescu: it wasn't in my text.
asciilifeform: i dun see any finery, but only 2 symbols of which mircea_popescu seems to say i do not know the meaning.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't mean you're now at liberty to savage all over the livingroom finery.
mircea_popescu: that doesn't really enter into any of this. you asked for a disjunction i gave you the genus and specific difference.
asciilifeform: money-is-property, as i understand , is the old, demolished civilized world.
mircea_popescu: one is to regard it as a symbol, the other is to regard it as a property. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform alright. there's two ways to look at money, once you agree (as all of these do) that the principal function of money is to organise human activity while avoiding the costs of http://trilema.com/2014/the-battlefield-of-the-future/#footnote_3_53044
mircea_popescu: the agitolalia re "progress" is especially funny in a place that's literally still playing the same plays.
asciilifeform: describe plox the split between whatever it is that connects h & c, vs jpm & r.
mircea_popescu: and i don't mean "cultural pockets" as in, people from chicago talk funny. i mean isolated cultural pockets as in, the jefferson-hamilton debate of 1700 is still live and kicking in 2000, argued in the sense of dumb rehashing by the same people in different costumes.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the hamilton-carnegie us has a) little to do with the jpmorgan-rockefeller us, and also entirely nothing to do with the jackson-nixon-bush us.
mircea_popescu: what can i tell ya.
mircea_popescu: see ? but none of that LARGE and important thing is in yarvin.
asciilifeform: they -- had a dying spain to eat.
mircea_popescu: yes, but that earlier is arguably the rarara monroe doctrine us "european power" of jackson
asciilifeform: the paralytic gold confiscator was very much the undertaker of the earlier (carnegie, rockefeller, et al - producing) culture.
mircea_popescu: pretty much the same ideas throughout (which is not surprising, mediocre men reflect the fashions of the age, news at 1100 ad.)
mircea_popescu: we'll never agree on this point.
asciilifeform: fdr centralized , e.g., academia, created the familiar grantola trough, magicked modern fiatola into existence. quite definitively the builder of usg4.
mircea_popescu: it's 9x% of the us education system by mass.
mircea_popescu: there should be a book written about these "earworms" let's call it, little bits of memetic stupid that work on the innocent strictly, and reconfigure what'd have been a natural construction into stupidity.
mircea_popescu: it is only accurate if one's account of us history is made after reading it rather than before.
asciilifeform: i picked it up because afaik it is quite accurate. the 4 stages are quite distinguishable .
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, on the face that'd be lincoln not jackson. very different items.
mircea_popescu: i really recommend against using yarvin's mental models for anything, they're well broken.
mircea_popescu: in typical ignoramus fashion, he is missing the jackson us in there, annexing florida and shit.
a111: Logged on 2014-07-07 11:41 asciilifeform: usg1 - 'idealism', attempt at actual federation of independent states; usg2 - strong federal / centralized, slave states alive; usg3 - slave states zapped, vestiges of state autonomy removed, capitalism; usg4 - the one we know and love.
mircea_popescu: this isn't to say that the previous system was any good -- it truly was about as good as the soviet union, which is to say worse than nothing.
mircea_popescu: i ended up with both mapping to "orlol" in my head now i can't distinguish irl.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Earl Butz - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earl_Butz>; Earl Butz, history's victim. - Slate: <http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/chatterbox/2008/02/earl_butz_historys_victim.html>; This Day in Quotes: The infamous quote that revealed Earl was a ...: <http://www.thisdayinquotes.com/2009/09/earl-butz-three-things-loose-shoes.html>
mircea_popescu: !~google "what niggers want is tight pussy, loose shoes, and a warm place to shit in."
mircea_popescu: it's still called the same thing, but it has ~same to do with its own history as today's russia with historical soviet union.
asciilifeform: oppenheimer could have easily been a saharov. but instead he was stripped of his rank and given a swift kick in the arse when he took up with the left.
mircea_popescu: the adventure of that unfortunate idiot bailey is exactly that -- the dissemblement of the entire system people like orlov, and like rotblatt, and like every tard in between shat on for a half century.
mircea_popescu: of course they did.
asciilifeform: these folx never got a podium on which to pour shit over entire american system, say, and 'dissident'ate, and gleefully preside over disassembly of usg
asciilifeform: moar limited thing.
asciilifeform: aah them
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Statement: The Russell - Einstein Manifesto – Pugwash Conferences ...: <https://pugwash.org/1955/07/09/statement-manifesto/>; Russell – Einstein Manifesto - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell%25E2%2580%2593Einstein_Manifesto>; Russell - Einstein Manifesto: <http://www.umich.edu/~pugwash/Manifesto.html>
asciilifeform: first time i hear of a rotblatt.
mircea_popescu: i thought carter was a drunk.
mircea_popescu: sure they did.
asciilifeform: they, unfortunately, did not have a competent set of puppeteers, and a nobel-dispensing 'international komyoonity', to put theirs on proper podium
mircea_popescu: eh, the usians also have one of these, "nuclear physicist / peace advocate"
asciilifeform: ( y'know, this d00d, http://ru-an.info/Photo/News/n3889/3.jpg )
asciilifeform: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/conway.html << it's there
mircea_popescu: can anyone dig up a contact for the fellow ? i'd actually do an interview.
asciilifeform: there was an earlier case, more familiar to asciilifeform : saharov
mircea_popescu: totally worth writing a biography, "l. conway - from reality to convention. a life."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know i've been thinking about the conway thing. it's nigh on fascinating, a perfect case of "aging engineer falls into female culture" to use the terminology of http://trilema.com/2017/menstruation-lulz/
asciilifeform: 'If the North Koreans hesitate to open fire, for obvious reasons of national survival and common sense, there is a back-up team of shooters, namely the Maritime Self-Defense Force of Japan. A volley of Mitsubishi anti-ship missiles should do the job of sinking the U.S. Seventh Fleet and drowning the American sailors. The news media will assign the blame on Pyongyang for the dastardly deed.'
BingoBoingo: Anyways, color of paint is secondary or even tertiary concern. Promary purpose of paint is as protective coating
asciilifeform in other noose, now has a pretty clean 'transparently mmapize arbitrary object to disk' ada thing.
ben_vulpes: might be fun to distribute large fabric squares to bike scum that say something like "THIS PATCH HACKS ROBOCARS" with a nonsense illustration below
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes that actually sounds pretty cool.
asciilifeform: or the river -- a destination...
ben_vulpes: by which i mean a testbed for hooligans with GPUs, bad attitudes, and a cursory interest in adversarial image generation.
ben_vulpes: in other news, portland fashioning itself as a testbed for robocar experiments
mircea_popescu: innit though!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/fuckgoats-unboxing-of/ << Trilema - FUCKGOATS, unboxing of ~