log☇︎
196900+ entries in 1.392s
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as a low income "area".
BlueMeanie4: they really have no idea what living in a low income area is like
BlueMeanie4: this is what a lot of these protestors dont understand, most are white middle/upper class
mircea_popescu: and if you're unable or unwilling to stand your ground, well... you're not a citien either. go find one and hide behind him.
mircea_popescu: if a policeman wants to report a crime, he gotta find a citizen and get his help.
mircea_popescu: here's a simple reform idea : take guns away from police. because government employees are slaves, and slaves don't belong carrying arms. that's for citizens only.
mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 the "whole country" is only "a mess" in the sense that random idiots are inept, and the model where you run a continent as a centrally planned economy requires a lot more than a conclave of idiots in charge.
mats_cd03: what a novel thought.
BlueMeanie4: basically the whole country is a mess
BingoBoingo: Now Illinois, that's a quality mess.
BlueMeanie4: then you talk to a californian, and it's like : NEW BMW! something is very wrong here
BlueMeanie4: California in particular is going to be a huge mess. they can't pay their bills esp pensions and social services, politicians keep passing the buck
undata: they're going to cause a collapse then their meat-puppet is going to pull an american-flavored hitler
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform re hyalus flexibile (there's no such thing as flexile, and vitreus -a -um is an adjective in latin, directly mapping on vitreous) : http://www.poezie.ro/index.php/poetry/13925568/index.html
assbot: 34 results for 'meta-nsa' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=meta-nsa
BlueMeanie4: Americans are about to get a taste of all this
BingoBoingo: I alternate between clamshell and candybar with a keyboard for texting bitches
BlueMeanie4: actually no, i have a clamshell
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: You phone has a camera?
BlueMeanie4: its edgy but wow, explains a lot if true
mircea_popescu: if they find a tyorne.
undata: that's what I'm anticipating; bezzleland seizes up, and there's a horde of superstitious morons suddenly available as a resource
mircea_popescu: there's a bunch of aureus on your armpit hatching one regarding you, right now.
BlueMeanie4: this place has become a !@#$ing nut house in the past 15 years
BlueMeanie4: i think there is a long term plan to break down america
undata: watching people "protest" in Portand over #fergie was a joke
mircea_popescu: here's a pop quiz : would you say the "stricter laws" past 2001 were to the detriment of al-quaeda or to its benefit ?
mircea_popescu: undata stricter laws have a cost.
BlueMeanie4: i imagine as a Romanian you are not exactly keen on 'greater Russia'?
asciilifeform: there IS a differece << academic to the fellow sitting on the stake.
BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: To be fair when the Despots on the UNHCR criticize your human rights record, there may be a problem http://qntra.net/2014/12/un-report-criticises-united-states-on-human-rights/
undata: BlueMeanie4: russia has a hand in what
BlueMeanie4: there's a clear agenda here
BlueMeanie4: personally, I think Russia has a hand in all this
mircea_popescu: there IS a differece.
BingoBoingo: Ah, New York isn't a serious place like St Louis is.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo meh. more likely, a tweetmeet with some politicos trying to be all you know, talked about.
BlueMeanie4: the whole thing is a massive media manipulation stunt, seems we get one every few months these days
mircea_popescu: seems more of a cosmo level interest.
BlueMeanie4: a
gribble: You rated user BlueMeanie4 on Sat Oct 18 13:17:40 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: thinks the WoT should be more like an iPhone; http://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4.
asciilifeform: when some bozo walks a genuine master key out of ft. meade (and not opsec garbage) - i'll believe the 'poor security.'
undata: asciilifeform: so someone can surely be beaten into this state; what I'm asking is whether they don't become useless as a tool in that state
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: it is beyond us to produce a dual system of astronomy? The stars can be near or distant, according as we need them. Do you suppose our mathematicians are unequal to that? Have you forgotten doublethink?' '
assbot: Logged on 03-10-2014 05:15:13; asciilifeform: 'Winston made another convulsive movement. This time he did not say anything. O'Brien continued as though answering a spoken objection: 'For certain purposes, of course, that is not true. When we navigate the ocean, or when we predict an eclipse, we often find it convenient to assume that the earth goes round the sun and that the stars are millions upon millions of kilometres away. But what of it? Do
mircea_popescu: undata there's a reason i dun want new york after all.
mircea_popescu: the only reason obama doesn't get a glass shard through the eye is that nobody gives a shit about him and his eye
mircea_popescu: undata> there must just be a class of people who are wholly programmable, who will ignore reality completely if told to do so << yes. this class of people is called "women".
mircea_popescu: <undata> what I'm stuck on is this: you can have a hole in the pentagon smaller than the wingspan of a plane << of course. why not ?
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> because you 'clearly do not know how the world works' or the like. << a sword that cuts both ways.
mircea_popescu: <undata> I'm starting to see Google Chrome as a trojan << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-11-2014#936618 ☝︎
undata: what troubles me is whether that thing has a legitimate use, or whether there are particular humans that are irredeemably broken
undata: this, that there's a script which is expected to precede that which my own eyes tell me
asciilifeform: the hole was not a secret (not for long, anyway). but anyone of any note, who believed 'his lying eyes' and spoke out in public - is now written out of the script.
undata: there's a distinction there between one who can lie, and one who doesn't know it's a lie
undata: a person who can do that is a danger to everyone
undata: there must just be a class of people who are wholly programmable, who will ignore reality completely if told to do so
asciilifeform: ^ prime example of 'fda grade-A' crank bait.
undata: what I'm stuck on is this: you can have a hole in the pentagon smaller than the wingspan of a plane
asciilifeform: but in such a way that, by professing whatever belief in it, you write yourself out of 'polite society' permanently
assbot: 15 results for 'crank bait' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=crank+bait
asciilifeform: at least with him, a good bit of material survived
asciilifeform: sorta like trying to get a sense of the lesser-known work of n. tesla.
asciilifeform: incidentally, the 'baghdad battery' is an example of a subject that is virtually impossible to research on the net - on account of it being a favourite of ten thousand kinds of prolix idiot, and consequently shunned by most thinking folks
undata: I'm still stuck on the CIA having given a bomb to a guy who boarded a plane
asciilifeform: this is what makes him a stooge and not a partner.
asciilifeform: a stooge can have no possible guarantee of not being thrown into the woodchipper at whatever convenient later time by his patron.
mircea_popescu: you wouldn't download a car
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: there is also, for the impatient, a mostly-passable film
BingoBoingo: Oh shit!!! asciilifeform Fuck that was a while ago.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: notice date on article. the only interesting aspect, arguably, is how the whole thing vanished neatly into 'the memory hole' without a trace.
mircea_popescu: take woman with cock in her mouth. she's there because "the guy really respects her" right ? and "he has a great sense of humor" right ?
mircea_popescu: im not in the business of proving to a bunch of idiots that they're wrong.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there's a lot of fucking debate as to whether 1000s of individual pieces are or are not electroplatred.
BingoBoingo will wait a while before trying this translation challenge. Suspects the subtext is the girl is Andy after Tyrone's empire collapses.
asciilifeform: did original artifact contain a cock-sized orifice ?
mircea_popescu: this is not like saying "go on a blind date with an unqualified woman", but like saying "take a random dude as a slave 5.8mn times"
mircea_popescu: kinda how it goes, pretend like you're a tough ass prosecutor for a few years, get a juicy private practice contract.
assbot: Logged on 03-12-2014 22:56:56; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> greer's article is not entirely wrong that ancient egyptian tinsmith could have built it, if he knew how and had a reason. <<< electroplating was the reason, and the tech was in fact used in all likelihood in the golden crescent cca 1500bc.
assbot: 3 results for 'urinetown' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=urinetown
assbot: 0 results for 'egyptian battery' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=egyptian+battery
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> greer's article is not entirely wrong that ancient egyptian tinsmith could have built it, if he knew how and had a reason. <<< electroplating was the reason, and the tech was in fact used in all likelihood in the golden crescent cca 1500bc. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'Thank you folks for your work and I do apologize for the likely barrage of angry and childish emails I suspect you may already be receiving. The concept has attracted a couple of groups who can't accept playing by anyone's rules but their own.' << exactly fucking right.
BingoBoingo: I thought it was sufficiently endowed rocket to enable time and a Yurt.
asciilifeform: so, the bitcoind cleanup thing is conceivably useful, because end result could be the book i asked for, and a year or so from now i (or someone else) can read it, and build rational design.
asciilifeform: because the larger the pile, the more otherwise-reasonable folks say 'you cannot build a rationally built structure as tall as this pile, as glorious, without using old chairs and dead squirrels'
assbot: Logged on 28-07-2014 19:19:31; asciilifeform: 'Learn not to participate - to the point of utter impossibility of meeting the enemy 'half-way' - and you will see that inside there lay a very useful mindfuck: in learning to 'nonparticipate,' in fact you drew out your *will* from its scabbard - to which it seemed so securely riveted by your upbringing. The appearance of *your will* changes everything and forever. With your own will slipped into your
assbot: 6 results for 'nonparticipation' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=nonparticipation
asciilifeform: undata: glad you enjoyed. i think there may even be one or two people in #b-a who ended up here on account of it.
mike_c: don't get too excited. gribble's a little dumb with the estimates
asciilifeform: see the 'standards' section. then - take a piss on it.
undata: can one person create a mass-producible lisp machine, the OS, etc?
asciilifeform: in practice, a handful of people can be involved, but result must be a 1-head item.
asciilifeform: folks who write spec often forget that a spec is a cheque that someone's pair of hands needs to cash
asciilifeform: that is, with a hard guarantee of no deviation whatsoever between versions and platforms
undata: I'm starting to see Google Chrome as a trojan
undata: asciilifeform: haha, clojurescript is a clojure -> JS compiler
asciilifeform: reminds me of something i wrote once: a kind of simple 'lisp machine' in 'adobe flash' bytecode. never published, because realized that the whole idea is braindamaged and will encourage further braindamage if anyone were to use it
undata: asciilifeform: a box you can either draw in 2D upon, or stick webgl in
undata: asciilifeform: he mentions X; I've pondered coming up with a little protocol to talk to a canvas tag with