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mircea_popescu: you're roughly speaking of the "bubbles in power" in a bottle of beer.
mircea_popescu: why not have a democratic political class to hate and despise ?
mircea_popescu: no, my point is that it's easier to give the police guns and then bitch when they shoot the wrong people than you know, hold a gun and pick and choose. and similarly...
decimation: the chinese have lived under strong men, emperors and bureaucrats for thousands of years. it would be better to go with a winning formula
mircea_popescu: singapore democracy's gonna be a fun one to watch.
decimation: aren't chinese a big part of the sg population now?
xinxiwang: i don’t have a car here.
mircea_popescu: what, is it like a festival ?
decimation: asciilifeform: maybe you can do aes on it and try to use a microphone to do side-channel
asciilifeform: satan preserve us, i can hear that thing's cpu load through inductor whine from across a table.
decimation: of course there is a small cottage industry selling reversed parts
joecool: hey mp, can you make assbot only use notices instead of msg? I know the ddos is a pain in the ass but if someone is unlikely to respond to notice, they are unlikely to respond to privmsg as well
mircea_popescu: basically, they made a ruling for a purpose. then industry lobbied on the basis of cost.
decimation: that uses a unique coupling to the intentional radiator shall be considered sufficient to comply with the provisions of this section."
decimation: here's the exact usg 'regulation' http://www.rfcafe.com/references/electrical/FCC/Part-15/fcc-part-15-radio-frequency-devices-15p203.htm << "An intentional radiator shall be designed to ensure that no antenna other than that furnished by the responsible party shall be used with the device. The use of a permanently attached antenna or of an antenna
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there was, iirc, a record of this very procedure being performed on a woman in (?) mexico
mircea_popescu: for instance : through a surgical intervention mandatory in schools for girls aged 12, they could reverse the asshole and vulvar opening.
decimation: asciilifeform: was there actually a serial console present or was it a bootloader?
asciilifeform: i mean, back to the story, all i had to do is reach across desk and grab a ttl serial octopus. but what are folks supposed to do who don't have one?
decimation: the FCC demands that you reverse thread the connector so you couldn't plug your 1 watt router into a 30 dB amplifier
mircea_popescu: decimation alternatively, you could hit it once with a hammer and make contacts directly eh
decimation: everyone can tell themselves that they couldn't possibly buy a reverse-thread sma connector
decimation: for fear that 'citizens' might make use of them in a way they see fit
asciilifeform: funnily, i have a circa-1998 wireless router, that has precisely this form
decimation: yeah there's no way it could pass class B without a shield or metal case
mircea_popescu: a dog ?
mircea_popescu: it does kinda look like a sprinkler...
asciilifeform: manual says 'class a'
decimation: or is it class A(industrial?)
BingoBoingo: Isn't off topic what's been sustaining it these last few years, and even off topic still makes a case for loper
mircea_popescu: yeah listen, why is this not a post on loper-os ?
asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/a/llwZ2 ☟︎
BingoBoingo: OMG #b-a impoverished someone.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ^ mr. o is 'having problems' ? << maybe he got made, and so now teh fsb is no longer interested in what was a marginal asset anyway ?
mircea_popescu: say a picolulz' worth.
mircea_popescu: for our esl (english as a single language) friends : мили́ция = mili-tsya
asciilifeform: (as they say in britain) 'a whole policeman!'
asciilifeform: 'What this means in practice, for me at least, is that as soon as it starts looking like I am heading in the direction of acquiring a specific job title or job description, or getting involved in something that might require registration, certification or licensing, then I need to backtrack or head in a different direction for a bit, until everybody loses interest. In doing so I sometimes forgo some opportunities for an increa
mircea_popescu: honestly, i dun see how it's even a kilo-lol.
mircea_popescu: i guess we progressed past the classical philosophy of either rome or the east. a well.
mircea_popescu: dude srsly, intelligent people want to go a direction ?
mircea_popescu: "I seem to be doing a lot of hyperproductive things lately: explaining to people how to kill the foul beast of Empire, revolutionizing the way English literacy is taught to both native English speakers and the rest"
mircea_popescu: anyway, thus understood, you will find that a woman trained to be intelligent, irrespective of iq, is quite to your liking, whereas one untrained, equally irrespective of measured iq, is quite unpalatable.
mircea_popescu: as a result, there's nothing fucking scarier than the former known to man.
mircea_popescu: which is kind-of why people readily imagine training a woman to think with whip in hand and training a woman to dance whip in hand are the same thing.
mircea_popescu: much of what YOU know is learned like what a dog learns. specifically, where the fuck the control key is and how to make pretty letters on the screen.
asciilifeform: likewise a good, e.g., sniper
asciilifeform: pilot will readily concede that much of what he knows is trained like a dog is trained
asciilifeform: in the latter, a тренер is the fellow who helps an athlete get.. more athletic. in english world, 'training' is done to dogs and cubicle dwellers
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> if trained as in what a strong man in a circus does to get strong - then, yes, trained (but note, not every man can become a circus lifter) << Not every circus need be honest.
mircea_popescu: no, but every man can either become a circus lifter or die trying.
asciilifeform: if trained as in what a strong man in a circus does to get strong - then, yes, trained (but note, not every man can become a circus lifter)
asciilifeform: if 'trained' is what one can do with a parrot - then, no, intelligence is something quite else
mircea_popescu: kinda lulzy when you visit a blog with one of those blinky geomaps, and the only blinky spot is in argentina.
assbot: Logged on 02-12-2014 15:10:06; asciilifeform: this is a subject that i have a little personal connection with. at one point, i spent almost two years of spare time working on what turned out to be 'fried ice'
BingoBoingo: Enough varied "trainable" questions though might approximate a test. Approximation probably necessary because jungle conditions.
asciilifeform: i worked with a whole mess of folks who could solve this one, for some value of 'solved'
BingoBoingo: Starting from a drawing of an catecholamine, draw a prototype for a drug that could antigonize the receptor for some sort of catecholamine neurotransmitter.
asciilifeform: they 'reproduce' by popping out of the zero point vacuum for a little while.
asciilifeform: well yes. you may have to devise a similarly peculiar example, if your friends read #b-a.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: try this with one of your pets. tell her 'waveguide motor' and see if she is able to draw one that could, in principle, function. or at least say what such a thing would be.
asciilifeform: if this is a 'muscle' that can be 'well trained' - this is not a 'margarine', but a 'real butter'. idempotent.
assbot: How dare the Eric Garner protestors dare try to disrupt a sacred ritual commemorating the birth a man who was murdered by the state.
mircea_popescu: which is, yes, a kind of circus.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'll bet you you couldn't discern between a well trained and an intelligent creature.
TomServo: mircea_popescu: Due to a lack of beatings, I haven't yet learned Romanian.
asciilifeform: actually, this is almost a fundamental question. like 'sexual orientation.' how many 'iq' points below yours (for a particular fellow) does 'zoophilia' begin ?
decimation: yeah yudkowsky and him co-wrote a paper on the 'ethics of artificial intelligence'
assbot: 8 results for 'yudkowsky' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=yudkowsky
decimation: "The way you talk about superintelligence reminds me a lot about how medieval theologians talked about God. It's unbounded. It can do anything. Except maybe created a rock so heavy it can't move it. Has anyone ever made that observation to you, and what's your reaction to that? Guest: I think you might be the first, at least that I can remember. Russ: Hmmm."
asciilifeform: just as a small spot, on some rusted razors - semiconducts.
mircea_popescu: TomServo the theory is that you don't get that advanced human in any unverse that doesn't include beating as a possibility.
TomServo: I guess I don't understand why a beating is necessary when you have a sufficiently advanced human capable of reasoning. Help me out?
mircea_popescu: TomServo such wives exist only in a world where people are WILLING TO slap them.
TomServo: But shouldn't a citizen also be capable of finding a wife that doesn't require a sucker punch?
kakobrekla: non-deterministic < better to stream comments to #b-a and harness the power of trolls
TomServo: I like the cops with no guns, find a citizen approach.
adlai: when there's a deterministic profile for further scrutiny (public announcement of the bet in-channel), those who specifically wish to minimize scrutiny will stay just outside the profile. what if we make it non-deterministic?
kakobrekla: bb doesnt have a red and green light but it does have a red and green buttons
decimation: re: only citizens could carry guns << that's a very good idea, and probably very close to what the 'founding fathers' had in mind
mircea_popescu: TomServo it's a pernicious cult.
TomServo: I've drank too much #b-a koolaid and find myself having to piss on co-workers' msft/goog/appl wankfests.
BlueMeanie4: whats b-a?
cazalla: BlueMeanie4: yep pretty sad, you can read about what is underneath on 4chan/pol/ <<< in hindsight, /pol/ was a short stop otw to #b-a, once i began to put in more time here, i pretty much stopped putting in any time at /pol/
BlueMeanie4: bitcoin remains a mystery
undata: right, they know full well that the economic system is a sham, and is going to implode
undata: one could see lots of the "antiterrorism" stuff as prepping for a civil war
BlueMeanie4: Texas and perhaps a coalition will basically say FU
undata: yeah, say there's a large economic collapse and the federal system starts to deteriorate
undata: not a Hitler
undata: hah, maybe we're headed for a Lincoln
undata: BlueMeanie4: gun control, but they also ship people around so they don't have a group that's entirely from one state
BlueMeanie4: i live in a red state, generally stay away from the blue areas
undata: the military though takes steps to avoid a state having its own state-sized chunk of military
undata: it'll end in a dictator
BlueMeanie4: youve got a lot of clear Nazi ideas building up
BlueMeanie4: ya the 'hipster' set is clearly a major part of the problem
mircea_popescu: a town 3x the size of nyc.
undata: BlueMeanie4: I recall some "livestreamer" of the PDX "protest" calling them pigs, then chatting up a girl
BlueMeanie4: its really nothing like e. europe, there are underlying tensions that you just dont have in a place like Romania