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deedbot: trinque paid ben_vulpes invoice 5

kloecat: wow mircea_popescu sounds like you eat well

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i dunno, in principle the idea was that pizarro also sells to the general public ; has this changed ? and if you want people to make specific representations, that's one thing, but ~vague~ representations ? ☟︎

ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i do not believe that we have that degree of control over the routing with the current switch, but i'll let asciilifeform/ascii_lander raise the objections ☟︎

kloecat: Ty mircea_popescu

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, you can just null root his ip if you get complaints you care about, what's the concern exactly ?

trinque: ben_vulpes: I get 'em from the filthy farmer's market even

kloecat: ben_vulpes I try to cook, I really hate cleaning though

a111: Logged on 2018-04-18 04:01 mircea_popescu: kloecat, 10b7f860. you got half hour.

kloecat: mircea_popescu: may I have a number?

ckang: mircea_popescu: other girl when ghost so im re-using the account i made for her

hanbot: mircea_popescu> ask hanbot she loved it lol << oh man visinata was great. and ckang no, not really --who gets drunk on cordials?!

mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLYrFR9RT_U <

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1024**3 / 8 * 3600 * 24 * 365 / 765 / 1024**2 = 5276611.764705882

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, i think the average pantsuit can't do a good job on the topic of charity for fear such'd be tantamount to i dunno, having voted for trump. there's some fields in which the pantsuit perceive a need to be incredibly retarded for ingroup reasons.

jhvh1: mircea_popescu: 1024**3 / 8 * 3600 * 24 * 365 / 765 * 1024**2 = 5801695990553756672

driscole: ben_vulpes: Yes, a name :)

mircea_popescu: Poka_, terrible. review http://trilema.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/ and re-do.

deedbot: Poka_ voiced for 30 minutes.

douchebag: !!up Poka_

driscole: mircea_popescu: I work as a bar back, in training to be a bar tender

driscole: ben_vulpes: TY

ckang: mircea_popescu: veronicalol's had issues, not sure if it was the bot stuff earlier or if it just didnt go through

deedbot: C9E2D60F11B27BC30B5D62DF5CFD3308E9EE82BC registered as Poka_.

trinque: meanwhile Poka_ says to himself "b-but I had theorems to share!"

mod6: <+ascii_lander> phunphakt : when you give 'exclude' option to tar, it excludes RECURSIVELY all files having that name, regardless of depth. this cost us 6 or so hrs today. << Jeeze, sorry you guys had some battles today, glad you persevered tho!

mircea_popescu: Poka_, d356dbbd, same.

deedbot: Poka_ voiced for 30 minutes.

douchebag: !!up Poka_

phf: mircea_popescu: that's the romanian word for nastoyka? i know polaks calls it nalewka

ckang: https://www.banggood.com/Copper-Core-Alcohol-Wine-Distiller-Moonshine-Still-Brandy-Wine-Distillation-Hoop-Barrel-Design-p-1043642.html?rmmds=search&cur_warehouse=USA

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 20:39 diana_coman: and at any rate, we end up with a "hello" packet that is the first one, containing version of comms protocol and client id string and all that jazz but *at most* some bits of the key only, followed by... more packets with the remaining, chopped-up public rsa key

lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.

mircea_popescu: !Q later tell ascii_lander ok.

mircea_popescu: !Q ascii_lander ok.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 15:01 mircea_popescu: you will roux the day!

ascii_lander: ACHTUNG, mircea_popescu , diana_coman : http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/7Xjpf/?raw=true ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 15:20 mircea_popescu: http://www.dianacoman.com/2018/04/17/rfc-euloras-communication-protocol-eucomms/ << hey phf, i intend to comission you to write a text-only eulora client on this basis, give a looksee ? an' let me know ?

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 17:55 mircea_popescu: diana_coman, one consideration was that if it includes pubkey it will have to be multipacket and i wanted it to be singlepacket for some now incomprehensible reason.

diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-17#1801097 <- mircea_popescu looking at it again from all sides I think the consideration is not necessarily misplaced in itself i.e. multi-packet there does make a mess out of the neat "these are the only *packets* you may ever send"; this being said though, I don't quite see the solution that would *also* preserve the desired "whatever it is, server responds the same: with a set of X keys" ☝︎

diana_coman: mircea_popescu, ^

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, ^

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, one consideration was that if it includes pubkey it will have to be multipacket and i wanted it to be singlepacket for some now incomprehensible reason. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, kinda 90% of all server code aims to avoid "accidental client ddos".

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, in any case strictly speaking, the helo as we spec it does not include R pubkey ; whereas in practice it actually must. but read the whole blob, this is better compiled htan parsed.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, well, two kinds of helo, yes ? when initiating a connection ; and when initaitng an account.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 16:50 mircea_popescu: at this juncture, server knows "someone" claiming to be A initiated a connection. it should therefore send X(answer) back, where X uses a key that S knows A should have, on the basis of previous comms.

mircea_popescu: diana_coman, this is too fluid to fix in a comment, and i'd rather have it here than in #eulora. so : let's call eucrypt.serpent X and eucrypt.RSA-OAEP R. now, 1. client wants to log in, R(hello) -> S[erver].

spyked: aha, found nothing on hardware and software specs. mircea_popescu, if it's any similar to the calculators I had as a kid, it might not even have any software (all calculator logic implemented using gates)

spyked: mircea_popescu, I don't see a fundamental problem with special-purpose os (which is why I mentioned "bitcoin node os" as one, though it *could* in principle be implemented as a particular instance of a general-purpose os). embedded hardware (e.g. requiring timing constriants) is full of them.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 15:05 mircea_popescu: if however that os runs on a no-op single instruction cpu, then it is absolutely general purpose.

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 15:04 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-17#1800912 << this item is not an os at all, if it runs on a machine which is capable, hardware-wise, of more than a no-op.

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> aite. << I have been walking alf quite a bit here

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: i'ma actually headed to the smg box shortly

mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, mg box ?

mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes, sooo, did you send login details to douchebag ? what do these cost in the end ?

mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, to a large degree who said what in early church history is a cockularity poontest.

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: it's in my copy of augustine, lol

a111: Logged on 2018-04-17 03:48 ascii_lander: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-16#1800393 << augustine

ascii_lander: ohai mircea_popescu

a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 15:22 mircea_popescu: whereas the proper definition of "general purpose" is the one mentioned, "which makes no assumptions about the userland".

mimisbrunnr: Logged on 2018-04-16 15:12 mircea_popescu: i suppose at work might be a confusion between what-some-idiots-might-be-thinking-retroconstructed-on-the-flimsy-basis-of-how-they-behave, where "general purpose os" means "the sprinkle of magic turning the computer from a computer to anything i want it to be, which is to say a tool that magicvally works for any purpose i might come up with, especially the nonsensical and self-contradic

a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 15:20 mircea_popescu: the best example i can think of is the code on the old handheld calculators. THAT is a general purpose os : it makes no assumption about the downstream, merely fully, cleanly and directly exposes the hardware.

ckang: ben_vulpes: im not trying to justify it, but ive seen it before

a111: Logged on 2018-04-16 20:03 mircea_popescu: you know, "show me the light, by all means, but later"

ckang: another for you mircea_popescu

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: aha, then would

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: right

trinque: ascii_lander: not even with -connect ?

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: yea verily, this is possibly the 1 commonplace thing where they definitely won't shine

lobbes: ascii_lander: agreed on 1) and 2), but still, as a secondary node may as well have one than not eh?

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: srsly log in to yer node and size it up, du -h .bitcoin

ascii_lander: mircea_popescu: indices

mircea_popescu: lobbes, ascii_lander the blockchain isn't even 50gb yet. so it'll work for years.

lobbes: ascii_lander: ah damn. ty for info

deedbot: Invoiced diana_coman 0.00000096 << Auctionbot Service Q1 2018 (http://deedbot.org/deed-516215-2.txt)

deedbot: mod6 unrated funkenstein_.

deedbot: mod6 updated rating of pete_dushenski from 2 to 1 << Runs two TRB nodes. Has bitcoin related blog.

deedbot: mod6 updated rating of mike_c from 3 to 1 << Met IRL. Former Lord, off doing other things.

deedbot: mod6 updated rating of diana_coman from 2 to 4 << Marquess Eulora, Eulora CTO

deedbot: mod6 updated rating of ben_vulpes from 5 to 5 << Met IRL. The Lord of the Well, Bitcoin Foundation Co-Chair, Pizarro Manager

deedbot: mod6 updated rating of mircea_popescu from 6 to 6 << Met IRL. MPEx, Trilema, S.NSA, S.MG: Father of The Most Serene Republic.

roxann3: mircea_popescu: here for same too

ascii_lander: mod6, ben_vulpes , & prospective userz ^^^

jaxxie: mircea_popescu: here for picture.

ascii_lander: diana_coman, mircea_popescu : i'ma bring up yer box nao

mircea_popescu: danielpbarron, http://danielpbarron.com/2018/a-conversation-between-darwin-fish-and-mircea-popescu/#identifier_4_28 < technically it was CCs, ie, plural of credit card.

mircea_popescu: douchebag, somewhat suspicious, as it told me "<deedbot> mircea_popescu paid Melissalmao 0.02". is their key no good or something ?

douchebag: mircea_popescu: I think it's worth mentioning that both Melissalmao and Brittt are recieving the same issue with deedbot as earlier

ascii_lander: ( ascii_lander's cargo included 1) dulapIII 2) dulapIII-spare 3) smg 4) smg-spare

diana_coman: ascii_lander, raid5 as described sounds good; go ahead then and put the same as on dulap

mircea_popescu: ascii_lander, plox to clone it in at your leisure.

diana_coman: trinque, ascii_lander offered to do it; if it's not done by pizarro there's at least more useful experience for me to do it anyway

ascii_lander: diana_coman: you an' i have exactly same box, with the exception where you have 2 ps, and moar disk

diana_coman: ascii_lander, ah, I see; I was puzzling re box type, searching for dulap's description to compare

trinque did one for mircea_popescu, wouldn't be opposed to doing one for you.

trinque: diana_coman: did you want a gentoo build?

ascii_lander: diana_coman: hence why i suggest to have what i'm eating.

ascii_lander: diana_coman: conventional (drepperistic)