asciilifeform: but overall he was, i think, referring to the more prosaic fact that it costs a hell of a lot to ~not live like a 17 y.o. shit~
asciilifeform: (short version: he decided that he could easily live off the consulting pay from working a few months / year. no. gov. decided that he must be secretly working the remainder of the year, and demanded tax, which he could not afford to pay. was driven into penury and died of self-neglect from easily treatable diseases)
asciilifeform: on account of how he ended up - literally - taxed to death
asciilifeform: norway was considerably more expensive for naggum than for just about anyone
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: so you oughta be well-equipped to understand the observation re: 'it costs a hell of a lot to live'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: would you be willing to share, roughly, how old you are ?
asciilifeform: esp. the part re: 'is a surplus phenomenon'
asciilifeform: funkenstein_: read the naggum piece again.
asciilifeform: anyone else having same experience as ben_vulpes ?
asciilifeform: but they went into the meatgrinder described in linked naggum piece.
asciilifeform: the original generation of 'computers are interesting and we know basic maths, etc' grew old, mostly did not die yet except in ben franklin's sense of 'most people die at 25 but buried at 75'
asciilifeform: (there were occasions where zulu - won! but notice we have a britain today, shrivelled cock and all, but still on the map; but no zulu)☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: re: spandrell and courage: think about the soviet propagandists' exhortation to 'go kill a german with your bare hands.' was it this that won the war? or also other things, like supply lines from factories set up in open air past urals, etc. ?☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: spandrell's 'we should stop and think what makes bold people bold, and what patterns are common to people who can fight back' is reasonable observation☟︎
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: that they were men is no surprise of any kind. but the detail i recall was that they were men who either had no wife, no sister, in the camp (or knew that these were safely dead)
asciilifeform: does it mention the interesting detail re: the women ?
asciilifeform: destroy the extermination area; and, then help the remaining prisoners escape to the forest. Many were killed during the rebellion, including all the resistance leaders, as the flames and reports of the revolt brought German reinforcements from all directions. But as many as 200 prisoners escaped to the neighboring forest, and perhaps twenty of those men survived German efforts to recapture them.'
asciilifeform: 'At Treblinka, an underground organization plotted an armed rebellion and mass escape. Learning about the Warsaw ghetto revolt from the last transports of Jews brought to Treblinka from Warsaw, the organizers decided the moment for revolt had arrived. On August 2, 1943, the underground fighters put their plan into action: to steal arms from the warehouse; eliminate the German and Ukrainian guards on duty; set the camp on fire;
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: my recollection (ru sources) is that treblinka was the site of one of the very few uprisings on account of the participants in said uprising having already lost their women
asciilifeform: what languages does pete_dushenski have a command of ?
asciilifeform: methinks we're speaking of a 'chinese backyard steel mill' situation here.
asciilifeform: and how does it beat the 20-30bux/mo an old pentium3 in data center costs?
asciilifeform: what, again, would you pay actual money to host in such a place ?
asciilifeform: i will have no part in it. and i can't picture any sane person wanting a part in it.
asciilifeform: but at no point does it make sense to emplace anything of any value whatsoever in mr. randomschmuck's house.
asciilifeform: but still largely empty, because in bezzleworld 'cheap' is a relative thing.
asciilifeform: they are being filled up with 'dc on the cheap'
asciilifeform: incidentally, just about every american town of any size has a version of this: the hollowed-out fortified walls of the old strowger-switch telco exchanges
asciilifeform: they probably have cable in cement vault
asciilifeform: (hell, possibly whole usa is candidate for this)
asciilifeform: desovietization will leave those folks where they belong - with highest tech level available being the hog harness
asciilifeform: places which only even have telephones because usg imposed it
asciilifeform: laying cable to nowhere-duelingbajos-fucktown is not an economically +ev proposition.
asciilifeform: usa is a shit-internet country. this won't change because there is no good reason for it to change
asciilifeform: brings back to a fundamental point from one of mircea_popescu's articles - shuffling things around is not going to increase 'number of turkeys available'
asciilifeform: this is not to be found in a residential unit, and certainly not in usa
asciilifeform: thing is, what you're actually paying for is proximity to respectable pipe
asciilifeform: what, other than bitcoind, would you even consider putting on such a thing
asciilifeform: as it is, there is a lower bound for what is worth bothering with at all.
asciilifeform: if the past 40 years of computer retardation hadn't happened, and we used a stack with support for seamless process migration, 'voting circuit' computation, etc. it would be practical to use '1024 chickens' arrays of arbitrarily garbage hardware
asciilifeform: i'm told there are equivalents for other american carriers
asciilifeform: vendor very much did not like (2) and they closed the hole which made reflashing the rom trivial. now you have to actually open the plastic box, oh noez.
asciilifeform: as result, the only folks who bought were 1) chumps 2) people who wanted to make own 'stingray'
asciilifeform: btw, my local telco quasimonopoly - 'verizon' - had a hilarious tamer version of this for some years, where you pay a few hundy for a box that opens a vpn to their end and gives you cell signal in your house, via your own net pipe. and they had the audacity to still charge for the 'minutes' and per MB of data.
asciilifeform: or your kitchen, as a place for bums to cook roadkill in
asciilifeform: this has all the appeal of renting out the toilet in your house as a public latrine
asciilifeform: so he would share with ~some other schmuck's~ netflix ?
asciilifeform: but five metres of cement - or 500m of salt water - that would be something.
asciilifeform: (if i wanted a box in some schmuck's house, i'd put it right here in mine)
asciilifeform: snorefest because this has literally no serious advantage over normal hosting
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: schmucks in, iirc, germany, doing this already. see logs
asciilifeform: (machine includes vibration, ph, sensors, clinometer, magnetometer, etc. if readings deviate from 'pylon is happily alone in the earth' memory gets zeroed and walked over, continuously)
