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asciilifeform: but i'm not a programmer.
BingoBoingo: decimation: That's the current strategy, but I'm tempted to take it to a jury next year finally
BingoBoingo: But to seriously escape USia, even by land one needs a plan that cover not just the simple border crossing, but also the next hop to a candidate for a haven.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: they're a couple hundred dollars.
PeterL: powered paraglider? Fits in the back of a pick-up, fly across border?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: I make efforts to acquire USD, but avoiding the honeytrap that is the drug business options are limited so I have a tent. Upon leaving with my budget first obstacle is the DEA's pet insecurity problem in Norther Mexico.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: come on. you're telling me that you can't set out for the promised land with 50k cash in your back pocket and be able to figure out some way to a) have bitcoin in the future and b) make enough USD now to live on?
BingoBoingo: That's a problem
decimation: it's a good rule of thumb: states which require 'all-party' consent for recording are corrupt as hell
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: A thing I am experiencing is when one rejects the local bezzel the local bezzel makes it hard to leave.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: this is however, a good thing. it will leave out the
PeterL: current leader chooses people to fill vacancies in a 12 person council, those chosen serve for life
PeterL: In response to the earlier talk of choosing a monarch, it made me think of the way the Mormon church chooses its leader:
BingoBoingo: decimation: Illinois also sucks a big bag of dicks? What else is new?
decimation: lol apparently Illinois passed a law that makes it a felony to record a public official without consent
gabriel_laddel: "It's a shame that taxpayers have to be on the hook for the criminal actions of their "servants" but it's still good when citizens let police know that there will be some consequences for rights violations."
decimation: http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/16/illegitimate-no-photography-arrest-leads << apparently the police arrested this woman and accused her of being a terrorist for the crime of taking a picture of a display-helicopter in a public place
gabriel_laddel: "noooo mr. ss man, I was baaaah, a good baaah bah baaah citizen baaaah baaah"
asciilifeform: 'the art of saying 'good dog' until you can find a proper stone'
BingoBoingo thinks outlaw restaurants would be a decent theme for a trip around USia
asciilifeform: there will have to be perhaps a million confiscations, dekulakizations, before 'the sheeple wake'
decimation: usg vs. $33,000 for a cop-boat
asciilifeform: crime without a criminal.
asciilifeform: 'Deliberately keeping deposits below that threshold to avoid the reporting requirement is a crime (known as "structuring"), but Hinders was never charged with it. Instead federal prosecutors argued that her bank account had facilitated the crime of structuring, making it subject to civil forfeiture.' << lol!
decimation: you too can start a new life in the off world colonies
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: okay, so the monitor folds down with a usb keyboard in some sort of rack attached to it.
decimation: I wish they made e-ink displays that updated at a reasonable frequency and were large
gabriel_laddel: re in bed computing. is there something wrong with a bluetooth keyboard on the lap and a monitor that folds onto the ceiling?
decimation: you could send morse from a thigh-key to a terminal
decimation: asciilifeform: you would make a terrible do-o-crat
asciilifeform: and that's on a bad day.
asciilifeform: 'Some immediately apparent disadvantages are: ... ... I cannot read in bed. The book-size portable terminal will come later. A household may require several terminals or perhaps we may have to compromise with sin and provide a hard copy terminal after all.'
decimation: the only alternative is a fine locking mechanism
asciilifeform: the latter, aside from being a poetteringism, consumes precious memory
asciilifeform: basic operations mapped to 'f' keys, just like in the ancient 'norton commander' it was originally a clone of
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: if you've information contradicting the stackoverflow question in question please say so. I'm in the middle of building a non-retarted linux distribution and would like to have Emacs as battle ready as possible by default.
asciilifeform: perhaps it wasn't a flag, but had to actually diddle the src.
assbot: Logged on 21-11-2014 01:14:46; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: text editor experiment << when you build 'emacs', you can select 'use mmap for buffers' as a compile flag.
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mats: a handheld gaming console
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: the never ending quest for a bed-ready computer?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: good question. answer: machine is a 'toshiba libretto' 233mhz, 64m ram.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: I'm rather curious as to why you're fixing (for some value of that word - more akin to fixing up a corpse before burial, w/e) up a openbsd box when you've got your own gentoo 'fork'?
BingoBoingo: Very hard for a person to quit heroin, but easy for heroin to quit person!
kakobrekla: i can dispose of that for a modest fee
mats: gonna miss this xmas deadline :( this 0.35btc has been burning a hole in my wallet
mike_c: well, hopefully there will be a rally soon and you change your mind.
mike_c: aww. it's a new stamp on the passport!
mats: what a dummy
adlai: in the case of multiple business addresses, it's easy, but in the case of the business using a single address, you can still see which input from the customer transactions was used
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I've seen them just sitting and littering a yard. That's a use.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: You may interpret wagon wheel purchase however you like. I'll decline to offer the use case for such a versatile tool at the moment.
mats: i apologize for making this a topic of discussion
kakobrekla: <BingoBoingo> I'm not very sure a given homo sapien at random can cary on a conversation. < fixd
adlai: BingoBoingo: I'm not sure a given homo "sapien" at random can carry on a conversation, period :P
BingoBoingo: I'm not very sure a given homo sapien at random can cary on a conversation while driving.
adlai: if a human can carry on a conversation while driving, then the social stigma against that conversation being digital is a failure of technology alone
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: there is a more long-term solution that would help the current case AND your proposed daily-changed-addresses case, which once implemented, I do plan to propose for mainlining
adlai: Luke-Jr: why not make a patch that lets people dynamically enter filters into a running, compiled, program?
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so you'll surrender if opponent so much as lifts a finger in opposition? or do you have some 'round two' answer that doesn't involve centrally-controlled zap lists.
Luke-Jr: this is a problem
Luke-Jr: adlai: node operators are just outsourcing their decision-making to a central group of developers
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: don't lie and say that it won't be a remote-updated kill list. because that's the only answer - other than surrender.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: let's suppose that we agreed with your 'blockchain environmentalism' philosophy, and wished to expell the dice men. say they start to switch addrs daily. what will you propose as a counter-attack?
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adlai: but the debate (no quotes needed, it's very real, otherwise you wouldn't be engaging it) is also a great waste of your energy
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asciilifeform: adlai: conv was about blacklists because an infamous fool who pushes blacklists logged on and started crapping into #b-a
fluffypony: asciilifeform: I fear with your efforts you're trying to teach a mentally challenged child how to interpret Chaucer...
adlai wonders whether it's helpful to look at the potential attacks on bitcoin as spam to be censored... or as a challenge to be accepted
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: i dare guess that much of the hostility to your 'spam filter' mod comes from the expectation that it is a 'camel's nose in the tent' for a dynamic, centrally-controlled censor mechanism. because anything short of that would simply dissipate like a fart in the wind in the face of any kind of organized resistence whatsoever.
fluffypony: Catholicism is a snare and a racket. If you're going to have belief in a higher power, at least choose a religion that isn't controlled by a central body with billions of USD at stake.
danielpbarron: "this transaction is spam because it isn't associated with a USG approved ID and taxed accordingly"
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so far you have failed to make a case why your turd is a sausage and we should in fact be eating with relish.
Luke-Jr: the only reason a rational person would disable it, is if they wanted to harm Bitcoin.
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: except in this case, it's actually a good thing and not cyanide, and you get a clear warning before you install it
BingoBoingo: Science lead dank to living out of a storage unit...
diametric: so first, as a former gentoo dev, Luke-Jr go fuck yourself.
fluffypony: [22:59:44] <+Adlai>Luke-Jr: the question still stands. how does humanity pick a monarch <- well humanity sure as fuck didn't choose Luke-Jr to be the Bitcoin monarch.
Luke-Jr: adlai: during the Arian crisis, there was only a few bishops who remained Catholic
adlai: why wouldn't he, as a test, to guage how many people are suckers, and will believe what people say from under a fancy hat or behind a pulpit?
adlai: who knows wtf happened in the 13th century during a famine
Luke-Jr: adlai: Catholicism has always made a big deal of any attempts to change doctrine; one couldn't do that unnoticed
BingoBoingo: Come on Guys, there hasn't been a Pope since Brutus stabbed Kaiser
danielpbarron: what hapens if a pope and an antipope come in contact with each other?
Adlai thinks people who think they aren't deluded need to be a bit more diplomatic about their opinions
Luke-Jr: Adlai: the become pope, one must first be a Catholic; the antipopes in Rome aren't Catholic
Luke-Jr: Adlai: well, you know someone ineligible cannot be a pope, at least
Adlai: maybe the vatican has been a fraud for more than 60 years
Adlai: how do you distinguish between a real pope and a fraud?
davout: Luke-Jr: what's a "real" pope?
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: Christians have a responsibility to learn the Faith, and are guilty if deceived by their own neglegence
Adlai: last time I met a christian irl was almost 6 years ago
Adlai hasn't discussed theology in a long time, and it's usually with jews
Luke-Jr: undata: if the pope is bad at the same time as a monarch goes bad, God help us
Adlai: so a sufficiently effective deception can cause a perfectly "good" person to get punished?
danielpbarron: Luke-Jr, does that mean all the people attending catholic churches today are on their way to hell for following a false christ?
Luke-Jr: Adlai: there hasn't been a pope in 60 years, don't let the fraud controlling the Vatican deceive you
undata: god help us if we need a meta-meta-pope though.
Adlai: well, the pope seems a bit busy these days to be dealing with monarchs