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mircea_popescu: so you
take hot girl out for coffee every few weeks.
that such a horrid fate ?
Framedragger: a friend needed bank account for a french job. got assigned "personal assistant" at bank. now assistant asks
to meet every $x weeks,
they go for coffee or something. which is maybe great in HNWI world, but she's not "HNW" and just has a normal not-high-paying job. ahh
the french
Framedragger: i wonder how exact
those revenue figures are, if it's a "simplified corp" (and not publicly
traded it seems), but yeah guess so
Framedragger: whoops sorry,
thought i'd stab in dark as
that info was on wiki in
that order. morning star prolly just copypasted from it. or vice versa, hard
to
tell
these days
Framedragger: (i
think lots of .fr co's are "simplified corporations"?)
mircea_popescu: look at
that, simplified corporation with a quarter billion in debts at a 1bn valuation and 300mn revenue.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-21 17:32 mircea_popescu: last i checked ovh did not own
the dcs.
shinohai: "German rapper
turned IS recruiter" <<< lulzy
ben_vulpes: and only got
two years when she got home
shinohai: BWAHAHAHA an FBI
translator defected and
traveled
to Syria
to marry
the ISIS recruiter she was investigating.
shinohai: I'm unsure why I even started using
the place, besides knowing a person or
two
there. I always liked sdf better for my shell needs.
They only recently started accepting Bitcoin for memberships so I need
to renew again, for life
this
time.
Framedragger: ridoinculous
that it needs doing in
the first place of course :(
shinohai: ( A long
time ago, hashbang was actually a gentoo
thing but was
then debianized by powers
that be )
shinohai: jhvh1 almost didn't live
there because
they did python "upgrade"
to 3 and removed 2.7 .... after much bitching and a few bitcents of admin greasing I got it back.
shinohai: No, I mean
their *own* irc server (and
the phree webspace) forces it. But you are welcome
to run other services as you please.
Framedragger: was it hashbang or sth
that even set you up with default
tmux arrangement where weechat was running with support irc channel open. looked quite neat
trinque: either user separation exists or doesn't, and if doesn't, explain
to me how "but yeah and
then we
take a massive dump where had
tiny dried
turd" and
this is better
Framedragger: but yes good point, one needs
to carefully
think what exactly is
to be offered, and
then "parallelize" on
those exact
things, not "generic containers".
trinque: and no pretense
that
they are safe from each other
Framedragger: oh aha, misunderstanding of
term (i was
the one
to abuse it). for me "vps" meant any kind of stack-i-zation of
this kind, not necessarily xen/etc.
trinque: what
the hell does "now I have 300 kernels" in memory buy you but attack space
Framedragger: trinque: i'm not constructing a
technological argument. i'm saying, actual cost would be dirt cheap, hence for customer it would be dirt cheap.
trinque: you know people sold shells before
this virtualization
thing existed
Framedragger: with no implication
that "no you get unique box" in service offering.
trinque: gonna have
to explain
to me wtf conflates "I get a weechat and shell" with "need massive shitstack of xen/kvm/strange"
Framedragger: same. (it's not like i'd quit $job if
this is done anyway, so even by
trinque's line of reasoning, won't go homeless in 6 months!1)
Framedragger: it's ~petty in
terms of business/margin/etc., but as a
tmsr service, it may be useful
to have, for some people. can you see how vps (in
this fashion) may remain part of world for at least i dunno several more years? apologies if
this line of reasoning
totes ruins your day.
Framedragger: you may not use it yourself because, barf, (1) "just get a real
thing already", and (2) "i have more
things
to host, so why should i pay for
this AND
that, separately". but for someone who only needs bouncer and maybe-sometimes-ssh (writing small bot in vim, connecting it
to irc, etc.), it makes sense
to pay very-little for a very-little-thing.
Framedragger: trinque et al.:
thanks for (as always) righting me. i have a shitty follow-up
that is still bugging me. here it is, condensed: i
think
there is a service niche (again: i am in no way vested/involved as of now) for offering a shell with limited resources and (say) a bouncer (like hashbang.sh), for "dirt cheap".
shinohai: Hillary lost long before Russian hackers were ever even finished doing recon,
tbh
Framedragger: right right,
the inflation is cumulative so
to speak, and permeates
to many places.
Framedragger: (this relates in my had
to shinohai's WP article, hillary blaiming russian hackers for election loss. loootsa collateral damage from inflated self-valuation...)
mircea_popescu: hence all
the ~beat
them~ references.
the only way for it
to be more efficient is shedding a healthy 99.9% of
the inflation of self worth going around.
mircea_popescu: if
they actually understood
their place in
the world somewhat closer
to reality,
there could be. but as it is
they overvalue
themselves
to such a degree, people are stuck paying for it with pretense.
a111: Logged on 2017-04-27 02:45 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it is,
the problem with it is
that 10% or less of
the payola is paid out as bezzle usd ;
the remaineder 90% or more is paid out as pats on
the back, empty and baseless congratulatory verbiage and generally speaking psychotronic noise.
Framedragger: there must be a more efficient means of doing
that... but i guess it needs
to sell
them
the story of "one with
the universe" and ecology,
too, due
to self-deception
mircea_popescu: gotta pay for all
the special accomodation for dickless bureaucrats
trying
to pick
the peon ranks for fuckable slavegirls while
the ac is going full blast.
Framedragger: haha :D no. i guess
there is
that,
too. it got even more expensive as of late, didn't it
Framedragger: so
the films
tell me! but
this particular description is nostalgia-inducing (where nostalgia may not even have a reference, in my case/context). sounds amazing.
ben_vulpes: Framedragger: my parents packed
the children of my generation off
to desolate islands during
the summer
to kill
things, camp, boat around
the archipelago, climb mountains, break each other's fingers etc under
the supervision of other, slightly older children and a smattering of 'adults' responsible for
taxes and calling medevac from
time
to
time
ben_vulpes: had one of
those and one even larger at $summercamp
ben_vulpes: but shit damn some day i am going
to get back behind
the wheel of a unimog
ben_vulpes: microtruck does not
typically need ultra wide gearing
ben_vulpes: magic land of endocrine disruptors in
the water
table
Framedragger: hah, u.s., where knowing how
to handle stick is not implied by knowing how
to drive :D
ben_vulpes: everyone knows how
to work a manual
transmission
too.
ben_vulpes: real question is how many fambly members it
takes
to evacuate fleet
ben_vulpes: yeah
there's one of
those in
the library
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes how many
trips in
two seater does it
take
to evacuate fambly ?
ben_vulpes: next step is
to cross state lines and deprive
them of my bezzlars as well.
ben_vulpes: no i'm leaving, you
think i want anything from
this shithole?
mircea_popescu: the only question being, are you going
to burn down city hall / hang chloe by her fallopian
tubes ?
ben_vulpes: historic neighborhood associations responsible for such gems as colonial heights,
the entire nw urban area, buckman etc, are now being politely shown
the door by "the rent is
too damn high"/ex bookstore owner
turned city commissioner chloe eudalay in preference
to ethnic groups
shinohai: Anyone doing bizness involving hookers now owes Baron
Titsbare slut
tax. >.>
trinque: making a repeatable gentoo recipe for
the fucker
trinque: anyhow. in other "cheap computers > vps",
the pcengines apu2 is now shipping.
jhvh1: Framedragger:
The operation succeeded.
Framedragger: !~later
tell gabriel_laddel_p ^ hooker for geeks in lisp, biznis idea
Framedragger: well, i don't have good
track record here, so eh
trinque: so
then broaden
the category
to "shit I read on hackernews"
Framedragger: yeah. ftr i do not survive or profit from vps. it can be useful sometimes (such as FOR INSTANCE for scanning
the damn ipv4, overnight, and not paying for whole month, or for whole box.)
Framedragger: because it may be more
than $32 if it's somewhere else but i MYSELF DEFEAT
THIS POINT sorry damnit.
trinque: it'd be worthwhile
to reflect on why "no really what I have
to do
to pay rent has a future"
mircea_popescu: Framedragger how do you go from " a grand
total of 32 bezzlebucks"
to "e i'm not convinced just *how* much actual +ev does a "non-nato" provider give" ?
trinque: Framedragger:
the datapoint I gave is in re: "VPS is a
thing" not "here host in usglandia"
Framedragger: sliding
the point? sorry, no intention
to do
that. i see
trinque's point, sure
Framedragger: i'd rather not host in
the u.s., but at
the same
time i'm not convinced just *how* much actual +ev does a "non-nato" provider give
Framedragger: yeah i remember you mentioning
the provider before, cool
Framedragger: nb, do you mind if i ask how much
traffic (unless unmetered) you get and whether
this is colo (in which case, appreciation costs,
too)
trinque: what
the fuck
those are called directories
trinque: I am currently paying some guy in
the midwest a grand
total of 32 bezzlebucks a month for
two boxes
that would
trounce any VM
Framedragger: trinque: multiple mirrors (from say different user) can run on same machine. vs. "whole machine dedicated
to one mirror"
Framedragger: ah, you mean in
the sense
that no need
to run separate linux, even. sure, maybe
Framedragger: trinque: does not require a full machine, cheaper. just
that. unless
there is an expectation
that not only should multiple mirrors of same
tarball be on different machines, but
that also no
two different (from different users, say)
tarballs should be hosted on same machine.
trinque: sounds like a wget -R and perhaps rsync job, at
the most
Framedragger: damn i forgot
the secret sauce, i'll maintain deedbot's l1 mappings in mongo cluster
trinque: the mirrors
thing benefits how from virtualization?
Framedragger: how it is done -- another matter. sorry if
too much noise.
Framedragger: i
thought
there may be a demand for vps. multiple parties indicated such, including mircea_popescu.
trinque: "no really VPS is a
thing"
Framedragger: actually,
their airport hotels should have
this. "bob, file a patent!"