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mod6: just made this amazing venison & porkbutt burger w blue cheese.
asciilifeform: 'the murdrum fine did not extend to any Englishman who was murdered. The law was explicitly introduced to help deter the English from murdering their Norman French conquerors and to punish the English community when they did so. If a Norman lord could prove that the person murdered was English he would avoid paying the fine. This became known as the ‘Presentment of Englishry’ and was not abolished until the late fourteenth centur
asciilifeform: https://thewildpeak.wordpress.com/2014/05/15/murder-fines-and-proving-englishry << iraq of the 1000s !
BingoBoingo thinks that was alf's story
BingoBoingo: This is exactly vermin behavior of the same sort asciilifeform observed when he saw squirrels hapily munching nuts while resting on dead squirrels
BingoBoingo: We're going to need bigger conibears
BingoBoingo: Instead the vermin bitch and moan that the nest they keep building in the culvert keeps washing away
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Those exist in saner river proximity construction
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> when we know what the 'great things' are -- reddit ? << Or local news bitching about how they plan to rebuilt their thrice washed out property, because apparently the watershed that took everything from you thrice did not bring enough pain to negate "good memories at the old house(s)"
asciilifeform: when we know what the 'great things' are -- reddit ?
asciilifeform: i actually find orwell quite considerably less outrageous than linked d00d. in the time of o it was at least possible to imagine the commoners whom, if, e.g., churchill, had not eaten, might have 'done great things'. but today ?
asciilifeform: more typical yet, https://thewildpeak.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/dont-sit-like-melvyn-bragg >> 'I for one have the utmost respect for Churchill as a war leader, but what about Churchill as an aristocrat? What about his wealthy and privileged background? Where did the wealth to build Blenheim Palace come from? What had his ancestor John Churchill, The Duke of Marlborough, done to deserve it? Who were his victims?'
asciilifeform: y expected the common soldiers, their ‘men’, to be slaughtered without mercy, they expected that if they themselves were facing defeat they would be able to ‘yield’, to be taken prisoner, to be treated honourably while awaiting the collection of a huge ransom paid for their release. The ransom money of course had to be ground out of their ever-suffering tenants and serfs back at home.' << lulzy
asciilifeform: 'This is what nobles do. The Duke of This or the Baron of That, the King of France or the Holy Roman Emperor, they called themselves warriors but actually they were just armed and heavily armoured thugs. If they weren’t leading their men up the hill to their death, they were leading them in the slaughter of the enemy. Sometimes in these battles the nobles died too. But in the middle-ages, in the so-called Age of Chivalry, while the
BingoBoingo: And apparently US DOJ refuses to yeild to Trumpreich orders re:"What's a body of water?"
BingoBoingo: The obeast's toes are out of frame for a reason http://www.podiatrytoday.com/files/pt12tma1_1.png
asciilifeform: pretty well read , overall, which is rare for the type
mod6: asciilifeform: hey!! Thanks for the makefile :]
mod6: On to FG #4...
mod6: Hi all: Ok 3rd run of entropy collection & `ent` & `dieharder` tests are done on FG #3: http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.ent_run3.txt http://www.mod6.net/fg/fg-test/fg3.dieharder_run3.txt
mircea_popescu: "people matter more than power" eh ?
asciilifeform: https://thewildpeak.wordpress.com/2013/10/20/exile-rather-than-servitude-the-english-leave-for-constantinople << in unrelated olds. lulzy www , generally. reminds that not all liberasts are illiterate, even today.
shinohai doesn't emacs either so all of last thread was lost on him.
mod6: but, let's not worry about that for now, i got a working env on my side.
mod6: <+asciilifeform> ^^^ mod6 , ben_vulpes , trinque , et al -- complete gnat magics ^^^ << aha. thx.
asciilifeform: aha, anything from tripped cable to asteroid
mircea_popescu: on the strenght of the text as it is could just as well been guywith molotov for the same money.
trinque: could've been power outage and network segment refers to area of DC
mircea_popescu: odd, figured prominently in the previous "we need isp" installment.
mircea_popescu: i broadly inferred that "something happened".
asciilifeform: i thought this was a vaguely-sane d00d, not amoeba...
mircea_popescu: i don't expect by now there's any relation whatsoever between the mouth-like organ and the arm-like organ of the vaguely organised amoeba colony.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: seems odd, the phrasing, 'a network segment associated with your server', as if only the lan had gone down
ben_vulpes: plz rate if this answered your problem
mircea_popescu: i see ty for help a+++ would quora again.
ben_vulpes: oh there's your problem, the broken pigeons hold it all together
ben_vulpes: also have you tried rebooting your cardboard
ben_vulpes: are you sure you're reading the romanian instructions and not the argentine ones?
ben_vulpes: oh that's odd
mircea_popescu: yes but it put together a maschinengewehr 42 when i followed wthem
ben_vulpes: just bolt the jet to the submarine
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: are you thick? it comes with instructions
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 18:19 trinque: if the thing doesn't render readably without JS it was written by morons, and who wants to read anyway
ben_vulpes: psh why would anyone ever need more than one server
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/rhezw/?raw=true << very helpful professional isp, i'm like... "oh, MY SERVER. that's unambiguous enough."
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform oh, so that's what it was.
asciilifeform: see official docs for what all of the knobs do, my paste only shows the very basic ones.
asciilifeform: in favour of a more intelligent, ada-specific thing
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/H2ASf/?raw=true << example of how to use it.
asciilifeform: it comes with adacore's gnat, but with the vanilla gnu one, you gotta build it by hand
asciilifeform: mod6: lemme know if you have questions re the makefile. you will notice that there are multiple knobs.
trinque: diversity strengthens us (and fattens the budget)
asciilifeform: and of course archive.org ( why does usg need TWO of these ? )
ben_vulpes: from the void: https://perma.cc/
asciilifeform: ^^^ mod6 , ben_vulpes , trinque , et al -- complete gnat magics ^^^
asciilifeform: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/tBbGD/?raw=true << well, not quite automatic, you need this in your .emacs .
jhvh1: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mod6 http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/upCny/?raw=true << makefile. this will work everywhere but crapple, where static linking is entirely dead. ( will work there also if you discard the relevant flags. )
trinque: for archiving the few sane folks in same time period, no js required
trinque: the archiving of them is indeed relevant to the historian
trinque: I see a bias of my own here, towards tuning out noise.
asciilifeform: but to pay attention to the specific pattern of what is lied about -- gained, yes.
trinque: but am not prepared to argue that's the general case
trinque: I guess I remain unconvinced that I ever gained anything paying attention to them
asciilifeform: otherwise 'unhappening' is far too easy.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 18:19 trinque: if the thing doesn't render readably without JS it was written by morons, and who wants to read anyway
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652151 << ~whole point is to archive völkischer beobachter et al. the folx who work day and night to make it difficult. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: and when nate silver tires of the archiving of his bad predictions?
trinque: the nuremberg that lasted eternity
trinque: man I don't want to read every livejournal before condemning
ben_vulpes: how is one to hoist the morons upon their own words if they're only legible with js?
trinque: supposing someone does want to read, sure, doing this is the only means
trinque: if the thing doesn't render readably without JS it was written by morons, and who wants to read anyway ☟︎☟︎
trinque: and removing those tags > running the thing through a giant wad of browser
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 15:14 trinque: mircea_popescu: wget -R will suck down every URL it finds, js included
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652115 << trinque -- not only does this mean that you (reader) are stuck with executing js - but also that it can DYNAMICALLY load turdolade from the original www (which may or may not still be there, or be the same as before) ☝︎
ben_vulpes: didn't think so.
BingoBoingo: In other news, Canada is trying to start a Dairy trade war with US\
ben_vulpes: that wouldn't lead to a node pegging 100% cpu, would it?
asciilifeform: achtung, panzers! anyone who noticed that his trb wire to dulap dropped last night -- the thing was rebooted (without my permission) ~13 hours ago.
trinque: https://chromedevtools.github.io/devtools-protocol/ << was some elisp that ate from this
trinque trying to recall whatever he used to jack chrome into emacs
trinque: ah you know what, that wasn't even the thing
trinque: Framedragger: https://github.com/o2platform/chrome-repl << ever see this? might be a way to snag teh html tag's outerHTML ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Oh my, Pam's going to find some dick with initiative!
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-1-sorry/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 1 - Sorry.
trinque: will want to consider that as he puts things where
trinque: sure. Framedragger meanwhile with a headless chrome will have all the attack surface anybody ever wanted ☟︎
mircea_popescu: heck, if everyone forgot how to "web 2.0" tomorrow, this'd be a greater gain for human culture than the discovery of fucking penicillin.
trinque: got it; was trying to understand why have a browser involved in the archiving
trinque: so archive.is waits for the DOM to render, then what, serializes that back to HTML?
mircea_popescu: why would anyone save the ajax pile of bullshit. "modern" web dev has no place in the present let alone to be preserved for the future.
mircea_popescu: i thought one only wants the previews.
trinque: ah if one wants some kind of preview before loading the archived site, yes, can't get that
mircea_popescu: trinque yes but not process and render it, is the thinking
mircea_popescu: hey, us public discourse is == marketing talk, and there's no marketing benefit in pointing out "real estate" is neither real nor valuavble.
BingoBoingo: es are the ones who don't know how the world works...
BingoBoingo: In other idiotgeneering, Neighbors on the other side of the Mississippi are bitching and moaning about "OMG, towns [a,b,c] have had second 500 year flood in 18 months!!!" meanwhile only marginalized commentators are raising the issue of "Why did we let the Chesterfield valley get levees and suburbs?" Apparently people raising the issue that building levees for new construction turns meandring floods into energetic and giant log flume rid
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 11:39 Framedragger: new chrome version supports "headless" mode for very easy and accurate archiving. i'm curious, would the forum tolerate the use of chrome in an archiving tool (if properly packaged and (to the extent it's possible - yes, limited, barf) sanboxed)?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652105 << can make your own tools for as long as you can live with them. the output is sane ? ☝︎☟︎