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gizmolearner: Do you agree with
the premise
that at some point most (if not all) of
the population will be obsolete?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes or rather, wear
the plastic
thing over
them, like everyone in machine shop does anyway.
mircea_popescu: until
then, will happily boil like frogs,
these "people".
mircea_popescu: people do not revolt. "people", like submissive wives, will only move out when
they identify some other
thing
to move into.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 13:21 asciilifeform: no good in machine shop, no good in organic chem lab, no good anywhere but perfumed
throne room finery.
mircea_popescu: even if you had a large supply of quarters for
this new laundromat.
mircea_popescu: i don't
think you either know or could meet if you dedicated a year
to it someone possessed of an ai capable of identifying who
the fuck
to shoot.
☟︎ gizmolearner: At some point
the people revolt, and
they also have guns.
mircea_popescu: neither is producing any value,
the whole
thing is "this is cheaper
than shooting you, so far."
mircea_popescu: mind
that people making 50 an hour "to
think" are simply enjoying
the upper
tier of welfare. just like
the idiot blue collar is paid 12 an hour
to get out of
the way, so is
the idiot white collar paid 50 an hour.
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner you need
to be
thinking on a machine costing a quarter an hour
to arrive at
the conclusion a machine could outthink some guy making money.
mircea_popescu: the us is
turning socialist because average us produced cuntlet can't bridge
the gap between what she
thinks her priceless snowflake of a snatch is worth and what i might consider paying.
gizmolearner: After many years of slow growth, AI is currently looking
to be on an unstoppable path. If a machine
that costs $.25 an hour
to run can out
think a person who costs $50 an hour. What should
the people do? Capatilism says
the machines should win
the jobs. So no you have factories and
things
that require almost no people, but still produce as much as ever. And a lot of unemployable people.
mircea_popescu: but in any case -- socialism is always "tried" when
the curve of worker consumption exceeds
the industrial output, ie when
there's a lot of idle, unmonetizable pretense going around. in other words, socialism is
the scar
tissue, papering over absent production, not ever
the result of abundance.
mircea_popescu: they'll just get cooked as per swift's cookbook and
that's
the last anyone'll ever hear of
them.
mircea_popescu: how is capitalism out just because most people are obsolete ? capitalism is here
to stay, not people, and ESPECIALLY not
the obsolete ones.
gizmolearner: I
think in
the not so far future most poeple will be obsolete, so capatlisim is out. If machines can outthink and outwork
the average person
that is a lot of redundant people. On
the plus side,
the world would still be producing as much as ever. So what do we do ?
Try socialsim again?
gizmolearner: The Gulag Archipelago makes me want
to retire from
the human race. Capitalism is pretty broken, but I prefer it
to what people in
the USSR had
to go
through.
mircea_popescu: the soviet hotties who willingly
traded
their charms for a cake of soap and
two rolls of proper
toilet paper whenever
they could get
the attentions of a not-born-among-retards visitor for long enough were nominally employed, in a nominally functioning empire, nominally making a great salary.
mircea_popescu: no,
that's what i meant, more nominally, worth ~nothing.
gizmolearner: mircea_popescu you might make more money in
terms of amount, but not nescessarily in actual value. Might be
true if you have enough money
that your money makes money.
mircea_popescu: but you can make some great vhs
tapes on
this flimsy premise. who'll ever know.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "you will always make more money
tomorrow
than yesterday, no matter what you do". sounds like a dream until you find out how
the ustards implemented it in practice.
gizmolearner: Even starting engineers make more
than I did as a CTO for startups 10 years ago
mircea_popescu: oh, i'm worth like a billion give or
take a few start-ups.
gizmolearner: Work at Google or Facebook if you want money. If you are into something like deep learning you can earn probably in
the mid six figures.
gizmolearner: McAfee was sort of mid startup when I joined, so 90% of my money was from
them becaause
the stock was actually worth somthing. By startups I had higher salary, but it wasn't on a level
to complete with
the stock.
mircea_popescu: oh, for my own curiosity, as an anon data point : would you say spending a few years mid career working for failed start-ups makes one more money
than working for corp ? less ? ~same ?
gizmolearner: I'll say
this about back
then
though, it was nice
to have a company
to buy
thinigs like SoftIce and IDA.
gizmolearner: Saying would identify me, and I prefer
to be somewhat anonymous for now.
gizmolearner: I was software architect for
the av group for a while, got
their enterprise product started, got like 20 patents, decided I hated patents and was just working against my future self, left, couple startups
that failed, nothing really
too noteworthy
mircea_popescu: gizmolearner "used
to do security software" as in, anonymously ?
mircea_popescu: seems rather like
the whole nic-dma combo is being fortified as a wolf's last stand. i guess
they expect ot lose cpus (to
the chinese).
gizmolearner: mircea_popescu: used
to do security software, goofed off for a few years, running out of savings so I need
to either make something or get a job again
gizmolearner: ƒasciilifeform: pseudo code but LPC ISA (Bus 0,Device 20, Function 3).Spi_Base(90h).SPI_OpCode=ERASE look like a step in
the right direction?
mircea_popescu: lol if
that pops,
the unhappening should be lulzy
to watch. from space preferably.
mircea_popescu: tsk
tsk. but why, it's so insecure and ec is so much better and
there's even
this stuff on mediumgithub ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform for my curiosity, does imperial drm
tech look for a 2048 rsa or ec sig ?
mircea_popescu: in
the sense
that rather make
that, best make new comp.
trb-i all over again.
mircea_popescu: "the password should be just as long as
the password presented was, wut, problem???".
mircea_popescu: yes but we were
talking of actual people, not like americans.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 15:35 mircea_popescu: not like it's a rule everyone must drive, wear
the same dumbass clothes and read reddit.
mircea_popescu: brings
the question wtf golden specked
teflon
they even make
the interposers out of
mircea_popescu: i guess with
the new leadless bs you'll ruin
the board before you get
the socket off anyway
mircea_popescu: and since gotta be impedance matched you'd expect
they'd advertise it if
they actually had it ?
mircea_popescu: you don't want
to hook up one of
these
to a board, and use it
to probe chip ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wow rly ?
that's ~all
they did, bpg lifters, interposers and i guess some cable shits
gizmolearner: asciilifeform: any ideas on how
to write
the flash
through
the probe?
gizmolearner: It's stopping correctly, it's just not refreshing
the registers
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 15:06 gizmolearner: x86 should reset
to 0xfffffff0
mircea_popescu: and yes you have some dB loss because of
the resistence of
the medium. "i couldn't see
that light officer". of course not, it was faint and you were wearing glasses.
☟︎ gizmolearner: The Sage EDK had
the ability
to write
the flash. Any ideas on how
to do
that without it?
mircea_popescu: not like it's a rule everyone must drive, wear
the same dumbass clothes and read reddit.
☟︎ Framedragger: there is
that. i don't do lots of driving at all, and plan
to avoid driving at night, ever. but, yeah, point
taken.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 13:37 Framedragger: (one good outcome of .lt joining .eu: was able
to get driver's license (change in regulations for driving, if person can see well with glasses))