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phf`: i think, but i might be wrong, it's this guy https://github.com/mnemnion who posted above
ben_vulpes: cute attempt to assign agency to a collective though
asciilifeform: i'd imagine at this point some 'reality setting in' and scaling down of appetites -- but what would i know.
ben_vulpes: what are those again? being the wholly-owned sillycon valley bitcoin/namespace table? ☟︎
ben_vulpes: lol, instructive to urbit's aspirations indeed
asciilifeform: 'There is a revision system out in the wild called v. It defines source code, or other data under version control, as a function of patches and their authorship, as sealed. Being a product of the Most Serene Republic, it is Spartan, manual, and instructive to Urbit's aspirations.'
phf`: asciilifeform: some people are so far removed from american experience, they will order coca cola with their croissant and feel international for speaking english with you
asciilifeform: in yet-other, lulzier-yet lulz, https://archive.is/wRzSJ >> 'Trayvon Martin, the Florida teenager whose shooting death by a neighbourhood watch volunteer in 2012 prompted a national debate over racial profiling and civil rights, will be awarded a posthumous university degree in aeronautical science that reflects the 17-year-old’s dream of becoming a pilot before he was killed.' ☟︎
diana_coman: asciilifeform, some people are barely catching up with x years ago for any value of x really; some go to 'experience Inca' or whatever
BingoBoingo: Anyways, the point is Working White America likes the idea of wall, Black America NEEDS wall
asciilifeform: i for one have nfi why anybody at this point would want to 'experience american', rather than run as fast as his legs would carry him, in opposite direction. ☟︎
asciilifeform: as for 'experience american', there are all kinds of insane folx, there are even people who go to chernobyl to experience .
asciilifeform: i have nfi presently what their mcdonalds looks like.
asciilifeform: fr, it turned out, was to be eaten by halifate, not usa.
phf`: when i was growing up, mcdonalds was a place where you go to get a milkshake before going out. nobody ever thought about it as food, because people cooked at home and still do. i noticed this in paris this time, how similar mcdonalds is, that it's not food and not treated as such. it's a place where you go to experience american. if there was going to be qualitative jump where bulk of population considers mcdonalds primary source of nutrients, i suspe
asciilifeform: only a question of time.
asciilifeform: if there's a mcshitfood in the place, it extends.
phf`: i dunno, i'm not convinced of that. orlol's target audience are cultural honkies, people who otherwise would be wiggers or otaku or "i'm irish, 5 generations ago". yes, those people don't have any culture, but it's chiefly american problem. i'm not convinced it extends to the rest of the world that well
asciilifeform: no culture to sit on.
asciilifeform: phf`: this'd likewise describe ~all of 'white' world at this point.
phf`: i think that traditionally would be called pogrom, rather than genocide. problem is that unlike jews, coptics, parsi, etc. american blacks don't have a culture to fallback to, and their persecution narrative is artificially constructed, so they just fall back. there's not going to be a tzadik in projects, unmovable, because torah told him to suffer ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-08 20:59 phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653582 << speaking of, e.g., sending children to a white school costing $mil or moar, etc ☝︎
jhvh1: BingoBoingo: Attack on family in Compton latest incident in wave of anti- black ...: <http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/25/local/la-me-0126-compton-20130126>; ' Compton : A Soundtrack,' and Dr. Dre's L.A. legacy - LA Times: <http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-ca-ms-sasha-frere-jones-straight-outta-compton-la-rap-20150816-story.html>; Demographic shift: Compton's new Latino majority | Al Jazeera ...: (1 more message)
phf`: i thin genocide in this case is not the literal lynching, but rather the systematic removal of agency under the guise of help and support, aka "useful idiots" ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: re: black genocide, Soldiers of Aztlan have captured *COMPTON*, KKKalifornia from the blacks. The same Compton of "Straight out of Compton" fame.
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/things-that-happened-to-sam-chapter-3-once-outside-the-terminal/ << Trilema - Things That Happened To Sam. Chapter 3 - Once outside the terminal
asciilifeform: and it ain't of the africans.
asciilifeform: lolwat genocide. i went to annapolis , mega-rich ~100%-of-visible-people white and yacht-riding. walked by a school yard -- guess what, 100% dark faces.
mircea_popescu: really, black dude's gonna be the carefee highway robber of 2020 ? what next, samoan ballerinas, gypsy wrestlers, what.
mircea_popescu: has a certain kind of ironic sublimicity, the thing.
mircea_popescu: kinda why the black genocide ongoing in the us is so lulzy. here are some ~africans, dedicated fundamentally an' by nature to being lazy, confronted with either become wasps, "tryinna make it in this game" or else indians, part of the bureaucracy. possibly the two LEAST adequate passtimes for black man, ghetto gangsta or university professors, are what they must do!!!
mircea_popescu: teach the uppity poor to read and write as an escape from the hanging, they'll be penning subversive treatises about asking condolezza and her 5000 sister conclave.
asciilifeform: phf`: i dun see any respectable alternative to fuhrerprinzip.
mircea_popescu: phf` 1001 nights is all about that yes ?
phf`: asciilifeform: as opposed to wat, make sure to consult condoleezza and her 5000 sister spawn?
asciilifeform: 'buck stops here', in the words of the original usians.
mircea_popescu: as you use it, i gather. as the historical element, not so much.
mircea_popescu: fuhrerprinzip is a lot more in the vein of usian miracle diets.
mircea_popescu: "you wouldn't give passport to furniture???"
phf`: re i've had this visceral moment of "cheaper also" when i was standing in the part of topkapi palace where sultan was making decisions, and the guided slowly and patiently explained "no, this is all of the government. sultan here says what needs to be done to this other guy there, and that's that".
mircea_popescu: ah, no, if unknown then valid subject to target practice.
mircea_popescu: ^ that.
asciilifeform: sort, somehow, the candidates .
asciilifeform: 'by will of lord' is what ? sultan selim using own subjects randomly for target practice from the parapet ?
ben_vulpes: cheaper, too
phf`: hanging uppity poor by will of lord seems a lot more romantic than same by process of pervasive surveillance bureaucracy
asciilifeform: you -- them, or they -- you, tertium non datur
asciilifeform: fuck the fuckable poor. etc
asciilifeform: breed the malleable poor.
asciilifeform: they didn't simply 'hang the poor' tho. ~uppity~ poor
mircea_popescu: seems a shoddy way to design. you want to hang the poor, hang the poor.
mircea_popescu: this reduces to "a complicated gui built atop the basic idea of "just hang the poor" except with various fashionable colorings thrown in for marketing".
ben_vulpes: well there's the piece of paper or db record
asciilifeform: or however titles work in your monkeystan.
asciilifeform: title is presumably with the local lord.
ben_vulpes: also implying title is in car?
ben_vulpes: how does this work when i send my brother out in my car to do something?
asciilifeform: the 'trap alive' solution is imho neato tho. car stops, locks. if the d00d inside has title to it -- they let'im go.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: i don't get stuck in traffic
asciilifeform: or think of car alarm, most of the time it is what ? wind ? bird shit ?
asciilifeform: police radio in this town is maybe 40% 'check on tripped alarm' 'oops, nothing'
mircea_popescu: i wish atms pilloried obnoxious sheilas typing in wrong pins n times.
mircea_popescu: take two months off, come back to empty streets.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what traffic ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes no because the culling of the herd must be "popularity contest" less the thinking monekys desert the empire.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how'd you like to be stuck in traffic behind idiot who sets off own grenade by mistake.
ben_vulpes: make anti theft devices lethal again
asciilifeform: auto vendors profit from theft.
asciilifeform: this is exactly same thread as with the credit cards
mircea_popescu: except ofcourse without the communities.
mircea_popescu: modern cars implemented the equivalent of "wtf is the point of locking door" from back in the day of hillside communities.
asciilifeform: this is apparently done, today, on massive scale, and handily circumvents whatever alarms, etc.
asciilifeform: so to steal it, all you need is to artificially help the key box hear the interrogator antenna, and vice-versa.
asciilifeform: where upscale auto now likes to start engine immediately 'as owner walks in', from pure proximity (it is continuously polling 'is the key here??' like idiot)
asciilifeform: turns out, there is a simple electrical hijack that is now used against expensive autos,
asciilifeform: asciilifeform was recently buying faraday ~bags~ to test, after noticing that they have become cheap and ubiquitous, and then went to find WHY
mircea_popescu: as per that resounding "n-am vazut niciodata hot mai prost decit prostu' care se vrea hot"
mircea_popescu: hey, be a less shitty thief.
asciilifeform: would suck if you stole one that gives out unexpectedly.
mircea_popescu: if you fucking buy it you already lost wtf is this.
mircea_popescu: nah, that's driving at each other.
mircea_popescu: anyway, only true manly race is the item depicted in, iirc, rebel without a cause. a) steal car ; b) meet at precipice ; c) last man to stand on two feet wins.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-08#1653398 << best driver i knew was chinese, drove a beat up honda (mazda? acura?) that would cut off the engine at 120 mph, so he would drive it on 119. he'd get into racing fancy cars, and of course they can dust him on acceleration, etc. but he'll always overcome them by being a) habitually good b) calculatedly reckless ☝︎
Framedragger: (not yet, but plan to later)
asciilifeform: gentlemen, get yer gnats in working order. will need them shortly.
asciilifeform: btw anybody other than phf` and mod6 built the example from earlier ?
asciilifeform: gotta have the constant-time exponentiator .
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: rsa thing is complete other than the exponentiator -- currently on asciilifeform's desk, on grid paper..
mircea_popescu: it also has the major drawback that it's soaking up time and where's the rsa thing.
asciilifeform: 3 ) trivially boosted to almost any bit rate you might want, by simple expedient of putting 'test capsule' from geiger kit in the box...
asciilifeform: 2 ) trivially verified to work exactly as described, incl. the analogue 'business end'
asciilifeform: 1 ) cannot be influenced from outside, certainly without you knowing about it, not by 'all the king's horses and all the king's men'
asciilifeform: i dun even care about background gamma, but only the 'own goals' from the Lu's ~3% unstable isotope itself
asciilifeform: the interesting bit is that afaik nobody's ever tried THIS application.
asciilifeform: ^ them ^
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Silicon photomultiplier - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicon_photomultiplier>; An Introduction to the Silicon Photomultiplier - SensL: <http://www.sensl.com/downloads/ds/TN%2520-%2520Intro%2520to%2520SPM%2520Tech.pdf>; Silicon Photomultipliers (SiPM) | Hamamatsu Photonics: <http://www.hamamatsu.com/jp/en/community/silicon_photomultipliers/>
mircea_popescu: well then your problem is insoluble innit ?
asciilifeform: (which is no good for rng, for reasons explored in older thread)
asciilifeform: at the amplification needed, ccd is ~100% own noise