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trinque: it's fast; see
this
train.
mircea_popescu: seems
to me he's ~ a modernist reflection of
the pre ww2 court system. blaming him for having a postwar reinterpretation of a rabbiniucal court seems rather strange.
mircea_popescu: i mean, consider --
the nazis did not
think so much of
the various romanian/ukrainian/polish courts. and
their agitprop did say
they you know, lure german girls
there
to fuck!!11
mircea_popescu: well, what's
the alternative, "of a good man - i am fond
twice, of a bad man - not even once" ?
mircea_popescu: (the
two aren't even distinct.
to belong
to
the lower classes aesthetically or intellectually, what
the fuck's
the difference.)
mircea_popescu: the equivalent'd be
to propose i'm vulgar because hey, i do
the whole "damn... well, basically
they fuck, but it was absolutely splendid in verse" schtick so
therefore. except
the intelligent can't actually be vulgar ; or for
that matter socialist.
mircea_popescu: it is not directly evident
that chomski is in any meaningful sense socialist. ideologically, intellectually, how'd you like it.
phf`: with "manufacturing consent" being one of
the implications
phf`: i
think
that my initial dissatisfaction with socialism was partially due
to chomsky: a flat graph of equal weights with nodes all alike
phf`: i appreciate chomsky, he gave me a useful analytical
tool of considering social and economic dynamic systems in
terms of dependency graphs (which doesn't necessarily preclude lizard hitler, but allows for wider range of
topologies
that includes lizard hitler along all others)
mircea_popescu: now,
to sum
this up -- it's not
that i'm a huge chomski fan or anything ; but it is
that if
the scaffolding were build up in stanford square and
the guillotine ready, i'd have serious problem signing off on chomski ; and some obscure dudes in
the sciences depts.
mircea_popescu: to
the outrage of
the old bitties. "oh noe, susanna! he beat her! but she's so smart and cultivated and independent and o noes"
mircea_popescu: any "good family" girl in her 20s knows so much,
to preciously pretend like "oh, uncle joe, he's always ~so~ controversial". which makes me
take
the cane in hand and leave her some memories.
mircea_popescu: now, obviously any bureaucracy aka club of
the intellectually lazy will secrete insulating cocoon around such a fellow, in
the shape of "oh, he's
the delegated weirdsayer".
mircea_popescu: phf`
this is
true ; but
the way he got
there was
through saying all sorts of weird/taboo
things over 30 or so years.
mircea_popescu: well apparently by your
theory not anyone with half a mil.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes but usually on work visas / no visas / 6 months
tourist visas etc.
mircea_popescu: in fact, my interest in computers at
the
time was comparable with your interest in machine guns
today. a little bit of history and occasionally maybe have one in
the house.
mircea_popescu: i was still mp before bitcoin, just a) you had no way
to summon
the interest and b) i had no interest
to you know, maintain an irc connection like
the link with
the chest of
the covenant.
mircea_popescu: let me point out
that a) i visited, when i felt like ; b)
they gave me a 10 year visa back in 2000. i was one of
the i dunno, maybe dozen romanians with one, at
the
time ? c)
they fucking held
the embassy open while my driver was going 100 on
the wrong way in bucharest because i met some friends and got
to drinking and we lost
track of
time and we were late. eventually got a police escort
to do it under color of law at least,
☟︎ mircea_popescu: it wasn't "usa won't
take me without an army", asciilifeform .
mircea_popescu: and if i felt like doing a phd with whoevere
the fuck, i'd have
that, also.
mircea_popescu: this matter may be examined, like any matter, but
the examination is neither substantiated nor concluded by
the one sentence "coach sandusky had nothing on him". where are
the fucking examples, notes, etcetera ?
mircea_popescu: yes, maybe he speaks half
truths because reasons. maybe he's just not bright enough
to go further ?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-10 16:34 asciilifeform: right. i dun mean
the physical box, mircea_popescu . i meant 'in my head, i dun have a
trilema'
to say.
mircea_popescu: your stance is
that
this can be just assumed about anyone any
time ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, you're now stuck reconciling
this item where
this lefty darling sees
the right perspective.
mircea_popescu: chomsky is, also, for opening bids,
the only guy who pointed out what mp pointed out re joe stack. yes his version of "sops, you're cutting
the branch you're sitting on" is neither as cogent, articulated, useful or descriptive as mine. but
this is because he is old, comparatively stupid and comparatively uncultured.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes.
the basis of
the comment is me reading
the whole "Shaft in plato cave" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: ause it's online and we gotta compete on wordage''' items about current event which i'ma misrepresent as somewhow related
to me really really hating
the chomsky guy i really look up
to for
the reasons i actually look up
to him, notwithstanding
the whole pile exists only in my
too-lazy-to-actually-read and
too-eager-to-imagine-i-got-it-at-first-sentence''' dumber-than-rocks '''child prodigy''' head"
mircea_popescu: "i
think chomsky is really cool because i imagine chomsky
to be
this guy who is read worldwide and got really rich out of feeding people ''''alt-blue pills in a red coating''' (yes i'm aware
this is nonsense, but it is also easy reference
to a by now readily understood brand of nonsense
this particular idiot club deals in) and i wanna be just like him!!1" becomes "here's some random '''nobody said
them so
they'll get said bec
mircea_popescu: why's
them ghetto folk need
to feel & be
this contorted, really ? he's going
to write a piece
to confess imaginary crimes he summoned up for
the circumstance which do not exist for any other reason
than
to
try and misrepresent into
their opposite his actual feelings about his misconstrued notions of a
third party ?
mircea_popescu: with
the mention
that i absolutely don't see his point re chomsky ; but i do see his point re... himself.
trinque: what
the hell was all
that
deedbot: mircea_popescu rated fbar 1 << I dunno, some kid being anony-cool on
twitter.
mircea_popescu: !!rate fbar 1 I dunno, some kid being anony-cool on
twitter.
BingoBoingo: It's what one does when
they are a JWZ, It's a natural milestone on
the walk of "just wanting
to"
BingoBoingo: Framedragger:
To be fair click
the link on "FBI Director and a JWZ" and read
the
Trilema
that appears in your browser
jhvh1: shinohai:
The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 07:19 jpt4: What actions beneficial
to
Trilema et al, and visible enough
to cross
the ocean, are
there
to be performed?
shinohai: Holy shit
the logs
this morning.
diana_coman: you might want
to check out #eulora
too and
the game itself anyway
fbar: apologies, jpt4 is still explaining
things
to me
BingoBoingo: Well,
then you aren't webbed in
trust you. You are simply a point
that can be webbed.
fbar: and am in
the web of
trust
BingoBoingo: The park rangers, like
those patriots in Oregon did last year
BingoBoingo: jpt4:
That's a question for
the lord alf of Beedog
BingoBoingo: Well, design a coat of arms, make some flags and play capture
the park against some rangers?
jpt4: Assist us
to peer into
the shadows.
BingoBoingo: Well, horse manure delivered
to
tax offices, delivery of microchip fab
to Jamaica, etc.
The gamut of useful
things is wide and long, but also dark
jpt4: What actions beneficial
to
Trilema et al, and visible enough
to cross
the ocean, are
there
to be performed?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: i'm going
to bed. will read
the proceeds of
the #trilema invasion in
the morning, keep it sprightly.
BingoBoingo: Surely
there's a courthouse or college campus
that needs 3+ cubic yards of fresh uncomposted horse manure for
the lulz. I'd rate such a delivery a +2 *if only
there were a key
to attribute it
to*
jpt4: I recall his video poker challenge
to Urbit some years ago.
jpt4: Mr. Popescu has not shied from
testing potential allies in
the past.
jpt4: La Serenissima is one of
the few institutions capable of accepting, and worthy of demanding, a sincere oath of loyalty.
Avarice_: Fbar is in need of lordship
to justify his existence
fbar: who seems
to enjoy magic
tricks
fbar: at first I assumed he was referring
to a
twitter user with
the handle of Duke actually
fbar: I just found
the site
Avarice_: My good friend fbar wishes
to pledge himself
to Mircea