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mircea_popescu: in a sense.
mircea_popescu: rms' ideas are a sort of "this is computing so elvis never happened".
mircea_popescu: if you get married, which is to say, BORROW a woman from her father, and swear an oath
mircea_popescu: not that i think fsf's bad or anything. merely observing that peanuts aren't aeroplanes does not imply a hatred of peanuts.
asciilifeform: i suspect that he spun the whole thing as 'moral philosophy' because if he had readily admitted that gpl was merely a successful hack against usg's 'laws', he would have been killed.
mircea_popescu: but these aren't a moral philosophy.
mircea_popescu: your " without gestapo suddenly breaking down the door and demanding to see if you've multiplied unauthorized numbers" is exactly equivalent i suspect to what i call who are you again ? fuck off, I don't give a shit" sort of approach to third parties of any man owning a computer
mircea_popescu: well he gotta have something. you can't start a "social movement" out of vague descriptions of desired outcomes
mircea_popescu: but this is a summary instead of the thing.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform in one aspect. now make an ethical distinction / moral rule (really nfi why they keep derping about ethics, its all a moral consideration) that resolves that while preserving my slave's thigh.
mircea_popescu: the situation was microsoft or go hang yourself, to which a lot of people who didn't particularly wish to hang themselves reacted as best they could,
mircea_popescu: neither of it enacts rms as some sort of Jesus unless im missing a lot ?
asciilifeform: 'gpl' is a weapon. yes, bullet makes bloody holes in things - that's what it was made for. yes, bullet is dumb and goes in whatever direction for no really logical reasons it can explain. big surprise.
asciilifeform: 'Stallman complained that anything of good quality remains...' << rms is a counterweight.
assbot: Logged on 07-01-2015 04:41:46; asciilifeform: naggum had a piece where he confessed to thinking of 'open source' as a weapon, purpose-built for the destruction of a particular evil (microshit)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'at no point was the FSF an important force on the field.' << though history isn't an experimental science, we are getting a kind of picture of what we may have ended up with much sooner, without rms
mircea_popescu: "just as much a cryptocurrency, only better!"
mircea_popescu: the great gift of satoshi is exactly that : we finally have a tool whereby idiots can only hurt themselves.
asciilifeform: i'm not sure why it even matters what the gavinists do, so long as the original blockchain continues to run as designed. it then remains a 'hawala' between actual people, and zimbabwe can do whatever
mircea_popescu: because a) poor workers, they need it and b) not agreeing would be being against expanded usage of bitcoin
thestringpuller: "Nah. We want a hardfork."
ben_vulpes: "useful fool" is a phrase asciilifeform's to describe the type
thestringpuller: like being a CIA asset
mircea_popescu: "I don't think a hard fork would be very difficult, but only if the following two points are taken into account:
thestringpuller: i'm more of a bubbles
cazalla: turns out the black guy of that movie died 13 years ago.. sorry to be such a debbie downer
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes you live in a good town for that, neh ?
ben_vulpes imagines watching this flick with a typical progre
asciilifeform racks brain to recall the film where a stone age tribe finds glass bottle
mircea_popescu: kinda why a worldwithout selection wouldbe so sad
asciilifeform: unfortunately applies to a number of very real people
asciilifeform: it's a comic book picture, the image
asciilifeform: savages, by definition, cannot properly apparehend a flashlight.
mircea_popescu: pgp seems to be living a nice 2nd youth these days tho
asciilifeform: i'll take the liberty of quoting old article of mine: ' I can’t help but picture a flashlight or a radio set, left behind in the wilderness by geologists, to be picked up later by some Stone Age aboriginals; to be fought over and worshiped. Until the batteries run out. But the batteries have not yet run out! The flashlight shines, the radio plays. Let’s listen and hear what it plays. '
mircea_popescu: cazalla if it does translate into traffic you'll see it as a worsening of the demographic quality lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: interestingly, back when there was a roughly similar 'messianic' cargo cult around pgp (the original pgp) - the folks involved more or less missed all the interesting implications of their toy.
undata: it only took a few encounters with that crowd to decide otherwise
undata: mircea_popescu: some, most aren't intelligent enough to grasp it at a surface level
thestringpuller: one day future asciilifeform will show up in a delorean talking like Christopher Lloyd. this is when my life will truly begin.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "I don't perceive a smartphone's worth having. Much like an AK-47, if not for the same reason." << i think it's clearly stated. like an assault rifle, a smartphone's not worth having. not for the same reason tho, but nevertheless, not worth having.
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2015 06:34:07; asciilifeform: re: rms and his oddities, i'd note that quite a few (most?) folks would end up regarded as similarly odd, if they somehow were set free to do wtf they pleased
assbot: 0 results for 'stallman toe jam' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=stallman+toe+jam
undata: yeah, given a sane interface to feed transactions all manner of other programs can do as they please
thestringpuller: who needs a wallet when you can just create the transaction offline, and then feed the finalized thing to the node
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [] the default change behaviour is asinine (owing to how it destroys wallet backup as a concept) but i cannot recall how it can be seen as 'vulnerable' << wallet notion itself is asinine
assbot: Elmer__FUD comments on Peter Todd on Twitter: "With Bitstamp on Amazon AWS, there's a high probability that some Three Letter Agency has a copy of their databases; expect zero privacy." ... ( http://bit.ly/1A48GnR )
ben_vulpes: now the washing machine can at least measure moments of inertia, and make some kind of guess about how much water to derp into itself, that i'll scowlingly perhaps accept if i'm in a generous mood.
ben_vulpes: dafuq does this dishwasher get off claiming a "smart wash" mode?
mircea_popescu: you've never killed anyone ? what's a rifle to you ? get a dildo.
mircea_popescu: if you kill fifty people a day and it's giving you carpal, get an ak do it faster. that i see.
asciilifeform: the article phrased a little differently: 'smartphone... much like ak... simply not useful'
mircea_popescu: i don't go down the street carrying a horse. or a boat.
mircea_popescu: i don't mean the article's a scandal, i just mean, it being so long is scandalous.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller bout halfway done it's a scandal!
ben_vulpes: PeterL: http://wemeantwell.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/bill-oreck-is-a-douche1.jpg
ben_vulpes: PeterL: 'tis a reference to the homeland of the social networks
ben_vulpes: (not a typo)
asciilifeform was quite certain that it consisted of a perl script or two
thestringpuller: "That's my point. Before you kick a sleeping tiger that has no teeth make sure you can see his gums"
assbot: A Conversation with Alan Kay - ACM Queue ... ( http://bit.ly/1AZSPLe )
adlai: "So I think the lack of a real computer science today, and the lack of real software engineering today, is partly due to this pop culture [of the personal computer]." https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1039523
mircea_popescu: a) you can't smoke ; b) alcohol is bad for you mkay
thestringpuller: i even made a cute little diagram
mircea_popescu: 1 tx is say 400 bytes. if i split 1k btc into 1k 1 btc txn that's 400kb. if i dump 400kb on the network as it is now, about half would be put into a block immediately.
mircea_popescu: so yes, separate your gavincoins, send to exchange, withdraw. see if it replies with a bitcoin+gavincoin pair, if so separate it again.
Apocalyptic: cazalla, even "It is a possibility that the MP argument is a virtually literal strawman, atop a bonfire, to fuel a flame war that drives up his LTC holdings." ?
mircea_popescu: aite well iwas writing a lengthy piece, brb.
thestringpuller: "It looks like he made his goal in life to be the most detestable person in the internet. (Methinks he is still nowhere near that rank, though.) However he is a precious resource, as an expert bitcoiner who enjoys kicking some of the most sacred cows in bitcoinland."
assbot: Are we witnessing the beginning of a civil buttcoin war? : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1wHVxQn )
cazalla: http://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/2rys7y/are_we_witnessing_the_beginning_of_a_civil/
mircea_popescu: yes, well, putin is running a country. if you're running a country too, by all means, cover all bets to the degree he does.
mircea_popescu: the exact thing played out once before, "it's cool though, they're ditching bdb, im sure whatever they replace it iwth will do a better job"
joecool: it's cool though, they are ditching openssl, i'm sure whatever they replace it with will do a better job :)
decimation: Mr. Obama will also outline proposals to tackle identity theft and expand Internet access.The proposals are part of a White House preview of Mr. Obama’s annual State of the Union address, to be delivered Jan. 20.
mircea_popescu: and that poor speaks a lot more to power than just money.
mircea_popescu: gold has a problem of demographic. the only people that think gold is functionally useful as a monetary metal are poor. they may be a numerous echelon, relatively speaking, what's left of the upper middle class proceeding on vague intuition and memories. however, they're poor.
decimation: I note someone put a hefty weight against that gold bet
assbot: Logged on 10-01-2015 18:56:19; decimation: "But investigators concluded that, whether or not the disclosure harmed national security, it amounted to a significant security breach in the office of one of the nation’s most trusted intelligence leaders. They recommended that Mr. Petraeus face charges, saying lower-ranking officials had been prosecuted for far less."
decimation: "But investigators concluded that, whether or not the disclosure harmed national security, it amounted to a significant security breach in the office of one of the nation’s most trusted intelligence leaders. They recommended that Mr. Petraeus face charges, saying lower-ranking officials had been prosecuted for far less." ☟︎
decimation: asciilifeform, others: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_ULtNYRCbg << dude made a complete word processor in minecraft, using 'redstone logic'
xiando: Basically a bugfix in openssl makes bitcoin-core behave differently depending on what openssl version is used
PeterL: is this a problem with openssl or bitcoin-core?
xiando: So I need a better WOT rating all of a sudden? :-/ oh well, life can't always be easy as pie.
assbot: One Phone Call is Not Enough: Court Rules You Have the Right to Google a Lawyer - Michael Geist ... ( http://bit.ly/1wFwT2I )
mats: http://www.michaelgeist.ca/2013/02/right-to-google-a-lawyer/
mircea_popescu: a few century later, "circus" means a place where everything's quiet. because a simple walk down the street makes one's head spin.
mircea_popescu: my neighbour, a man of different notions but similar methods, orders all black haired people to always wear square hats.
mircea_popescu: t for a decade or less on that property are nude.
mircea_popescu: to illustrate : suppose i am me, and i happen to believe that all females should spend a decade right after puberty nude at all times. i happen to be rich, and mindful of my beliefs. while i accept that i can't oder people around, i also expect them to respect my disposition of my own property. and so my will reads, that all my stuff is to be inherited by so and so successors, provided at all times all females pubescen
mircea_popescu: but how ? and they came to the idea to make it vest in a definite relation to a definitely existing thing
mircea_popescu: you know a simple summary of all the many ways english barristers tried to use the crown as a fixed point to unseat the lawe would be dazzling.
mats: > concerned land in London which Henry VIII had gifted to Thomas, Lord Audley, as a reward ... By his will, Audley left the land to Magdalene College, Cambridge, but the college subsequently sold the land and some of it was acquired, indirectly, by the Earl of Oxford. Magdalene College challenged Oxford's title on the basis of a statute which prohibited the
mircea_popescu: meanwhile, the relative failure of foss is strictly due to the incongruous and often misshapen radical leftist ideas of stallman. had that thing been "the same old gospel of individualism, small government, and market fundamentalism that we associate with Randian characters" it'd not be struggling covered under a pile of open source.
mircea_popescu: whodda thunk making a shitton of "x for idiots" books will result in a large bleating herd of idiots!
assbot: Logged on 10-07-2014 16:05:38; asciilifeform: Mats_cd03: only worth reading if there's a source other than alexander lebed circa 1997.
assbot: 2 results for 'graham allison' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=graham+allison
mircea_popescu: but this is a lot more fun.
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2014 17:44:35; asciilifeform: eased with their mediocrity. 'But this fellow from the desert!' (Interestingly, that among the hundreds of tyrants, in uniform and without, depending on the united states or the european sanitaria, none provoke a fraction of the wrath caused by Kaddafi. Evidently, the cause is his independence.) Kaddafi - is an extraordinary living proof of the fact that the fairy-tale version of life remains possible
assbot: Logged on 21-03-2014 17:44:35; asciilifeform: a videoclip of a fairy tale coming true... ...they [americans] also wish to drive around in jeeps, accompanied by squadrons of hotties in berets with kalashnikovs - but are impotent from birth. Envy, taken with an understanding of one's own powerless... easily transforms into hatred. The leaders of the sanitarium are easier for the 'patient' to understand, closer. He sees their permissible pecadillos,