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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the ideal functioning of, eg, semi, is that engine turns at 4800 for 8 hours straight.
mircea_popescu: anyway, to revisit upstack : putting "quantum computing" in the same pile of failed technologies as stem cell research is beyond idiotic. holy hell, every woman that ever was pregnant got the embryonic boost, measurable and measured, wtf.
asciilifeform: yes but engine still turns for a few hrs in a human auto, vs weeks at, say, sea
asciilifeform: i always wondered if this is intrinsic to the tech, or just american stupidity
mircea_popescu: yes, but in a proper arrangement (electric, gasoline, gas) hybrid, the gas turbine needn't cover all power curves.
asciilifeform: btw abrams illustrated a certain minus of proper (1 moving part, gas turns shaft) turbine : high revv-up cost
mircea_popescu: "very confused salesman" test. i gotta remember this one.
mircea_popescu: if i take my cues from dudes working in auto dealers, i might even end up with no bitcoin and a dozen credit cards.
asciilifeform finally sees at least where mircea_popescu got the idea.
asciilifeform: theoretically. but if you go to auto dealer and ask for turbine engine, a very confused d00d may or may not sell you an abrams..
mircea_popescu: and yes, the turbo was originally a ship-and-train tech, in the 20s or w/e.
mircea_popescu: ie, there's some power sent to the wheels through engine 1 by engine 2.
mircea_popescu: point being that in the modern diesel, a turbine is attached to the carnot engine, much in the manner in which in a modern hybrid, a carnot engine is attached to the electric motor.
asciilifeform: (was original thread)
asciilifeform: how to do transmission is separate q from engine
mircea_popescu: whether you attach the items to the drive train via electric exchange ; or whether you attach them via the historical arrangement known as turbocharger, in point of fact you've put some items to work for your transmission.
asciilifeform: at least on the planet i'm posting from
asciilifeform: the part which is moved by expanding gas, in a combustion engine, is the one of interest re 'which type of engine'
mircea_popescu: mmkay. it's really the air under the fore wing that's the plane's engine.
mircea_popescu: in this sense jet engine does not power the jet because... gases moving about do.
asciilifeform: of the O2, for the stoichiometric mix - provides. force, nope
mircea_popescu: which was the original fucking contention dear lord.
mircea_popescu: the hot gas turbine provides SOME OF the force.
asciilifeform: but in your supercharged bugati, pistons provide the motive force, not hot gas turning turbine
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by same token as your reasoning above, my comp is a turbine engine ( has turbine fan in it , hey )
asciilifeform: but if mircea_popescu direly wants to drive a land vehicle with actual turbine engine - there is at least one ! : abrams tank.
mircea_popescu: you ever saw the fucking item ? how is it not a turbine ?
mircea_popescu: no, we are having the thread where "turbine is not nao turbine because it's different"
asciilifeform: srsly are we having the '2-cycle diesels' thread again ?
asciilifeform: because they are wholly different items ??
mircea_popescu: but on what grounds do you disqualify it from "turbine", other than "it successfuly masquerades as something else, fooling me"
asciilifeform: but is not a turbine engine
mircea_popescu: or w/e, turbocharger.
mircea_popescu: what is your idea of, eg, turbo-diesel ?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: LM6000 -PF/PF+ Gas Turbine | Combined Cycle | GE Power: <https://powergen.gepower.com/products/aeroderivative-gas-turbines/lm6000-gas-turbine-family.html>; LM6000 - The LM6000 Engine | GE Aviation: <https://www.geaviation.com/marine/engines/military/lm6000-engine>; General Electric LM6000 - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Electric_LM6000>
mircea_popescu: not that there aren't eg
mircea_popescu: the statement was "some kind of turbine under the hood, even if masquerading as a more traditional something or other".
asciilifeform: ( betcha it was in aston martin or the like... )
asciilifeform: maybe meanwhile mircea_popescu will also find hybrid turbine. i'd like one
asciilifeform goes to read, update re 'did it ever work'
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Treatment of Macular Degeneration Using Embryonic ... - NCBI - NIH: <https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4437471/>; Phase 1 Safety Assessment of CPCB-RPE1, hESC -derived RPE ...: <https://www.cirm.ca.gov/our-progress/awards/phase-1-safety-assessment-cpcb-rpe1-hesc-derived-rpe-cell-coated-parylene>; hESC and iPSC-based products in clinical trials : Current status of ...: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: which yes, means that penicillin was not yet a result back when it was curing that one brit policeman.
asciilifeform: i'll point out that a 'onesie' ('apricots cured mr smith!') is ~not~ a clinical result.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: gonna link to a commercial turbine hybrid ? or somehing other than video with some chick re embryo cell ?
mircea_popescu: and i will note that your policy of strongly held opinions in poorly known fields is not working so well. not re turbines, not re stem cells etc.
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: Stories of Hope: Spinal Cord Injury | California's Stem Cell Agency: <https://www.cirm.ca.gov/our-progress/stories-hope-spinal-cord-injury>; World's 1st Human Embryonic Stem Cell Trial for Spinal Cord Injury ...: <https://www.cirm.ca.gov/our-progress/video/worlds-1st-human-embryonic-stem-cell-trial-spinal-cord-injury-katie-sharify>; Meet Katie Sharify : A Participant in the World's First Human ...: (1 more message)
asciilifeform: ( though , unlike locklin, i will not rule out wreckers as the explanation )
phf`: right, well the originals are presumably TeX formatted ps files, so it's impossible to butcher that part. somehow they can't seem to get it pressed properly. maybe it's just my luck
asciilifeform: afaik it ended up summing to 0.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: link to useful result from the famous embryonic ones
asciilifeform: at least all the ones i have here.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 14:13 phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654941 << so i got a replacement copy, in it's in even worse state than the first one! this one the entire lower edge is butchered during cutting. automated self-publishing ftw
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655645 << interestingly, i have never seen this. auto-printed b00kz often suffer from terrible (microshit!) formatting, layout. but physically perfect ☝︎
asciilifeform: if somebody physically ignited every box on the planet having amt, that would be great.
Framedragger: asciilifeform: i linked to illustrate the diff between enabled vs provisioned. let's not do another confused is/ought debate
Framedragger: so in theory, a wordpress hax0r could provision AMT if AMT was enabled, thus opening up the remote diddling thing
asciilifeform: Framedragger: tell me why i should give half a fuck re intel's, or microshit's, patch to re-nsaonly-ize an nsahole.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-11 21:24 phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-10#1653984 << so i got a copy, mine had a mechanical looking gash in the spine, had to send it for replacement. otherwise it's not horrible. it's a cheap thermal binding, but the paper is crisp, and the source is TeX so it looks reasonable.
phf`: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-11#1654941 << so i got a replacement copy, in it's in even worse state than the first one! this one the entire lower edge is butchered during cutting. automated self-publishing ftw ☝︎☟︎
Framedragger: and computers are not computers in the first place; does not negate the point about "if enabled, still bad, and good to know/check."
asciilifeform: Framedragger: privesc on all intel boxes is trivial.
Framedragger: where was that link to intel's content-less advisory... it had two parts, one remote, one local
Framedragger: but it seems that it's then possible to run *local* exploit (privilege escalation)
Framedragger: makes sense to know if only enabled, too
phf`: that article was inoffensive, but sloppy. some offhand points i think required elaboration (i.e. missing republican footnotes!), others were superfluous ☟︎
Framedragger: well, that's why i said "dunno if any good". on *cursory* glance, nothing mischievous, but obvs wouldn't v-sign it
asciilifeform: why not do same test by attempting the original ( now - public ) remote diddle ?
asciilifeform: Framedragger: didja read the linked code? How about the kernel mod it depends on?
asciilifeform: ^ was the most expensive, gram for gram, substance asciilifeform ever worked with, incidentally
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 09:08 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655457 << doing a mediocre job of it, too. stem cell research actually yielded various practical results. mostly obscure bone marrow diseases, but hey, it's only obscure until you get it.
asciilifeform: now why would the module be loaded on a box without it
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 12:19 Framedragger: HN spit out https://github.com/mjg59/mei-amt-check , dunno if any good, maybe need to check later. to be clear, AMT won't be provisioned "by default", and it being provisioned is the worser thang.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655609 << 'Requires that the mei_me driver (part of the upstream kernel) be loaded.' ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 09:18 mircea_popescu: ro train engines were that way for a long time too, owing to the peculiar terrain.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655608 << ALL trains made after 1950 or so... ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 09:10 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655460 << most hybrids have some kind of turbine under the hood, even if masquerading as a more traditional something or other.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655600 << not on this here planet, wat ☝︎
Framedragger: HN spit out https://github.com/mjg59/mei-amt-check , dunno if any good, maybe need to check later. to be clear, AMT won't be provisioned "by default", and it being provisioned is the worser thang. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ro train engines were that way for a long time too, owing to the peculiar terrain. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 04:57 ben_vulpes: dual-input or electric to the shaft?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655525 << electric to the shaft. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 04:46 ben_vulpes: my point is don't use the battery as anything other than a temporal load leveler, and bam you have yourself effectively a clutch.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655475 << he has a point though, every redesign cycle the momentum-based store (like they use in eg F1 cars) comes back to the drawing board. turns out having a small heavy well spinning real fast is not really much worse than trying to store energy in batteries. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 04:40 ben_vulpes: just had to wait for people to realize y'hook 'em up to batteries and not the tranny directly of course.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655460 << most hybrids have some kind of turbine under the hood, even if masquerading as a more traditional something or other. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 04:36 asciilifeform: in yet-other noose, guess who appears to read the l0gz: https://scottlocklin.wordpress.com/2017/05/14/technologies-which-did-not-live-up-to-the-hype
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655457 << doing a mediocre job of it, too. stem cell research actually yielded various practical results. mostly obscure bone marrow diseases, but hey, it's only obscure until you get it. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 03:54 ben_vulpes: any objections to a vpatch doing away with the truncation of hashes in the trb log?
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1655445 << on the contrary. ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/05/cost-of-running-shitware-continues-bull-run-to-the-moon/ << Qntra - Cost Of Running Shitware Continues Bull Run To The Moon
ben_vulpes will be doting on the mothers in his life on the morrow
asciilifeform: even being 1960s tech
asciilifeform: a watertight bignumatron, for instance, is , turns out, quite tricky
ben_vulpes: and in "today's nobel, tomorrow's homework", eventually bitcoin clients will be the republic's software engineering masterwork project.
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 15:11 asciilifeform: and 'dead bitcoin', esp. if it dies on enemy's terms, would imho be a technogenic catastrophe, quite comparable to, e.g., chernobyl. ( not for mircea_popescu 'i'm rich anyway, fuck everyone' , and not for other folx, who might not even have any; but for the concept of 'gold sans the guard labour')
asciilifeform: per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626921 thread.. ☝︎
asciilifeform: reference trb gotta keep working, uninterrupted,
ben_vulpes: it may take some time, especially at my glacial pace, but i think slicing the wallet from the reference implementation (which i don't think is going anywhere?) a worthwhile endeavour.
asciilifeform: idea , however, is that it will run blox past trad trb ( netless , mempoolless trb ) as 'final court'
asciilifeform: hence why all of asciilifeform's trb work from month or so ago and forever more, is about losing the cpp hairball.