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mircea_popescu: you just scan it to carry it easier-ly.
asciilifeform: well so's scanning, by same token
mircea_popescu: experience shows they could not and do not.
mircea_popescu: hoarding it like ~ is borne of a very flattering view of humanity, supposing somehow that the worms could also not be worms, if $magic, such as you know, reading a book.
asciilifeform: but it's a whole-day chore ( if done correctly ) with current tech. so ~nobody bothers.
asciilifeform: i'll grudgingly agree with the folx who remind that the correct thing to do with a rare b00k is to scan it, not to hoard it like koschei's treasures
mircea_popescu: but at least i don't throw it all out the window, so there's that.
asciilifeform: ( asciilifeform associates the practice with mircea_popescu , he had never met anyone else, afaik, who did it )
mircea_popescu: i also hoard dead tree, it's called furniture. but in that application works fabulously well, the absence of a different couch does in no way detract from the damsel's moans who's overturned on it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not for hoarding dead tree per se, but for attempting to apply a linear solution to a nonlinear problem WAY past the point where the mismatch should have become obvious.
shinohai wrote Qntra on that, hasn't yet been published
mircea_popescu: the meteoric path of that young careerist is quite amusing. started rather impressively, fell right in the shitter.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they end up with 20k tomes and get laughed at by mircea_popescu for 'hoarding dead tree'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in the monkey house, https://archive.is/LS3sn >> 'And by the way, I think we can successfully make Zcash too traceable for criminals like WannaCry, but still completely private & fungible' -- zooko (perpetrator of subj scamcoin)
mircea_popescu: but some people are not specific things. what's they to do.
mircea_popescu: works well enough if one decides to be say, a playwright. all you need is already published and already known, learn greek and latin and go ahead.
mircea_popescu: but the overarching point is that a life of the spirit requires you read books you DIDNT read before. re-reading the same books you already know is a dubious benefit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: send a gurl to library with a minox ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no 13337w4r3zscan seems to exist, aha
mircea_popescu: i dun feel like paying amazon 30 bux because who the fuck are they, not like they helped me know i hafta read this, and not like there can exist another merit ; i dun feel like waiting till they deliver. i did see the book at one point, in library, of course, which is how i know it exists, but i'm not going back there to read a book.
mircea_popescu: phf` suppose this morning you have to read l'histoire de mademoiselle cronel ditte fretilon. because whatever, as part of your plurious activities you're helping a girl get a place off the ground and being a serious agent you scoop the quarries of truth quite that deep. what now ?
shinohai: He is, if I ever find some Indian city willing to accept Bitcoin in exchange for naming a designated shitting street after him, I will gladly memorialize him.
mircea_popescu: but he thought he is a speshul pajeet!
shinohai: He can always learn 2 write shitty javascript and sell crap on fivver like all the other pajeets.
mircea_popescu: maybe he never overcomes the moment, spends rest of his life cringing over this, like a sort of lefty rms.
shinohai: I was trying to think of how to spin a Qntra out of it, but it was quite lulzy on it's own.
mircea_popescu: "scholar in residence", they wouldn't even give him a chair. NYU ffs! next step down was what, supervising the used sportsbras of the ohio state sluts ?
mircea_popescu: shinohai lol, the butthurt of the idiot indian. he was already seeing himself consul, what do we mean his career is finished ?!?!?! CAN NOT BEEE!!11
a111: Logged on 2017-03-14 03:18 pete_dushenski: open q : anyone tried this (or other) intel me 'cleaner' ? https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner/wiki/How-does-it-work%3F
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-14#1626725 << actually i want to try this sometime, too, any chance you've already fiddled with it pete_dushenski? :D ☝︎☟︎
shinohai: http://archive.is/Hv1n6 <<< Who will stop the Great Again? -- Preeeeeeeeet
BingoBoingo: But wankel while a 4-stroke is a total loss design that even has oil injection, a feature usually reserved for larger 2-strokes
BingoBoingo: The wankel being a 4-stroke, or poor fellow who misadventured on 4-stroke strimmer getting jewed of of half the power strokes he'd have on a 2-cycle
BingoBoingo today had to console poor fellow who burdened himself with a 4-cycle string trimmer "It seems to not be that powerful" "Of course it's not, there's half as many power strokes"
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/279B4893BA48D6D4C86CBC5F0FBE8F4CAE794DE107F923335946D49DCF88AD37 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1794...6813 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.4.151 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.4.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (xvm-4-151.ghst.net. FR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/279B4893BA48D6D4C86CBC5F0FBE8F4CAE794DE107F923335946D49DCF88AD37 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1471...3069 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '92.243.4.151 (ssh-rsa key from 92.243.4.151 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (xvm-4-151.ghst.net. FR)
BingoBoingo: But no, instead they wanna fake boring ole normal and instead the moo cows moo "Leak! Leak!"
BingoBoingo: The wankel is indeed a total oil loss system, which means FU PETROIL!
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/491B14123C0A1462D6FA0D215E2B288DF2EB4240F34281463E6608A2C70677F1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1699...5459 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '61.19.249.128 (ssh-rsa key from 61.19.249.128 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TH)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/491B14123C0A1462D6FA0D215E2B288DF2EB4240F34281463E6608A2C70677F1 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1480...8943 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '61.19.249.128 (ssh-rsa key from 61.19.249.128 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown TH)
mircea_popescu: i guess. there's ~no way to compensate that loss of mass though.
asciilifeform: in theory was to give a less stupid elsewhere in mechanism.
mircea_popescu: stupid fucking idea, that.
mircea_popescu: o brother, this was one of those total oil loss systems was it ?
BingoBoingo: The only problem with Mazda wenkels is the stupid insistence on oil injection instead of just running a 2-cycle petroil mix
asciilifeform dug garden, trimmed trees, changed lanterns, brb, horizontal
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 22:10 trinque: no need to rush on my account, plenty of strange acts of serial cable mangling and other perversions on my end yet
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-14#1656035 << do say moar, trinque ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ast for literature, fancy that.
mircea_popescu: paper is a miserable fit for the manner in which i read. one day ima actually manage to put into algo form the sort of tree i wish to see
asciilifeform: yeah i remember that mircea_popescu has forsaken paper -- he is ready for space launch.
asciilifeform: ( i can put up with one headache, or the other, but not both )
mircea_popescu: perhaps ; but it's not clearly out of the crossing yet, so it may be counted.
asciilifeform: was about megapatches that mangle 25 subsystems at once
asciilifeform: i disagree that it was about 'style'
mircea_popescu: the polarbeard fellow, i thought.
mircea_popescu: well, the reasoning was, "as they can't be bothered to read online while out ; so can't they be bothered to read books while in"
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 23:47 mircea_popescu: we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work.
mircea_popescu: library has naught to do with modems.
asciilifeform: dunno that you get modem in solitary. or there'd be a queue to sit.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-09 13:04 asciilifeform: it is possible that solitary prisoners go mad from simple boredom. notice that nobody is ever imprisoned in a library.
mircea_popescu: incidentally, speaking of buried tech : ~nobody credits diderot with the first coherent rejection of "intelligent design", but lettre sur les aveugles.
mircea_popescu: yeah, mebbe just talk about it a little.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work. << i kinda agree that some type of loose style guide should be created and posted to minimize churn/rework to assimilate
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 22:11 ben_vulpes: one wrinkle that occurred to me as i tested this patch against a not-completely synced node this afternoon is that satoshi's early transactions were all of the "pay to pubkey" variety, and not today's standard "pay to pubkey hash" breed.
ben_vulpes: (helps that folks are generally familiar with the base code.)
mircea_popescu: it might be the first time i had something cogent to say about code.
ben_vulpes: possibly the most timely in my tenure with the republic!
ben_vulpes: i am quite glad of the review.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes it's my understanding that the soul of c is exactly "compiler dun care about this".
ben_vulpes: it does surprise me that the function is declared to return a boolean, but the compiler says nothing about a branch where it might not return anything.
mircea_popescu: (this is generally the wost sort of problem, when false is the expected return, because undefined often masquerades false, ie it "seems to work")
ben_vulpes: i foolishly, naively assumed the compiler would detect that.
mircea_popescu: because seems as it is that it may not return anything specifically in some cases.
mircea_popescu: so to summarize : ismine logic is false if !solver, true if item.first==op_pubkeyhash and gethash160=hash160 ; false if item.first==op_pubkeyhash and !gethash160=hash160 ;
ben_vulpes: the boost is glued in very tightly in there.
ben_vulpes: i do not understand the subtleties of what is happening in script.cpp, and so decided to stick with shown-good semantics.
ben_vulpes: i had trouble with the pairtype.
mircea_popescu: + BOOST_FOREACH(PAIRTYPE(opcodetype, valtype)& item, vSolution) << more than one ?
ben_vulpes: c/++ is not my "first tongue".
ben_vulpes: after some time in the pit, i stopped boosting.
ben_vulpes: it may have been simply the first thing i did, and so mimicked existing style.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm. a map structure and an iterator over it seems clear to me, imho. just looks unfamiliar to a c developer. but not arguing further
mircea_popescu: we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i wish that i could recall my reasoning for using that boostism.
mircea_popescu: man gotta know, if / when doing patch work, wtf his stylistic choices are required, expected, desired to be
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes to my mind "c99 loop vs boost blabla" is very much in the same chapter as 4/2 spaces etc
ben_vulpes: happy to replace the dangling boostism, certainly.
ben_vulpes: i will reformat with 2, did not feel like futzing with emacs to make 4 spaces happen for this.
mircea_popescu: no, i know, which is why i ask, what's the style here
ben_vulpes: i did use one final BOOST_FOREACH in the output serialization.
mircea_popescu: question is very general and low priority : "just how far does the stick to 4 rather than 2 space indents thing goes ?".
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it does ; not from boost ; satoshi'd have written it as a boost thing im sure
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that is a standard c99 for loop.
Framedragger: is that from boost? just looks like modern cpp ^
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought it gets inherited. entirely likely i don't comprehend c loading model.
mircea_popescu: is there tmsr rule "no further boost constructs added" ?
mircea_popescu: + for (std::map<uint256, std::list<OutputIndex> >::iterator i = relevantOutputs.begin(); i != relevantOutputs.end();) { <<< took me a triple take.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in bitcoinrpc.cpp? i do not think so... http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/bitcoinrpc.cpp?v=wires_rev1
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i thought fstream is already included. no ?