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asciilifeform still suspects that there wasn't even ~this~ ddos -- e.g. phuctor erry day got hrs of 1000+/reqs/sec from idjit search engines, not only pipe but even ~it~ never fell
mp_en_viaje: ie, this isn't ddos, it's ispdos.
mp_en_viaje: but slut never wants to delineate failure, because in part well hammered into skull that "this isn't what pleasing is" through social milieu of ~shit ; and in part because just comes naturally.
mp_en_viaje: aite, well. evidently i wasn't watching all that closely. good there's a record.
ericbot: Logged on 2018-07-13 22:36:05 mircea_popescu: 2. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-02#1831375 STILL didn't get a direct answer, two weeks later. this "withdraw into busywork" reaction to uncomfortable realities may work (it doesn't work, but subjectively may seem to work) in lines typically well fit to the autistic. but as things stand here it's at least mildly insulting to BingoBoingo, that he's the dood on the ground and you're somehow looking right throguh
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wasn't suggesting this as a long-term connectivity. but atm we even lack means of seeing wtf is happening in the cage.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: understand that waiting will accomplish nothing. even supposing the mario & luigi derps come back and 'we fixed pipe, promise it won't happen again' it WILL happen again. week, month, year, later, and whole story will repeat.
BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-10-07#1941319 << I didn't manage to find the Trilema I wanted to link on that point. In the line I wanted to link you said something to the point of "raise rabbits, or do anything", I intend to litigate the Latecho issue, get more involved in National Party politics, etc. I wanted to honestly capture the despair my failure wrought on myself for myself and to read myself. And I feel less pregnant and more ☝︎
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 15:13:29 diana_coman: so they should get out of that "meeting" and talk already; you've been waiting *since Friday* for them to "talk to me", don't take anymore waiting because you really don't have much time left for waiting
asciilifeform: it won't surprise me if turns out that latech is actually bankrupt.
BingoBoingo: After leaving with Oscar's assurance informaiton will be sent and with the final request that I do receive everything, I swung by Tienda Inglesa and bought a hand truck because I'll probably need one. I arrived back at the desk to see one email from Maxi asking if I could send him my phone number again because my Movistar Uruguay phone number doesn't appear to be a Uruguay phone number. I have yet to receive a datadump or link to a data
asciilifeform: aite, won't interrupt
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Back. I went to the freezone office, persisted at Latecho's intercom lock long enough to discover Maximiliano and Oscar together in the Tower 4 datacenter which houses our rack. Unlike the couple times last night where I visited a cool datacenter, it was hot and loud with the noise of angry fans. They declared that this isn't normal and that they had tried a routine "maneuver" with the air conditioners which failed. After
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: The freezone office is door, behind a couple doors I don't have keys too
BingoBoingo: But we do have Oscars: "We are working on that with the ISP. As soon as we get the information we will send you." showing they in all likelyhood don't know what pcap is
asciilifeform: or wat, we're paying $maxint, and this doesn't come with a fucking door to bang on?!
diana_coman: so they should get out of that "meeting" and talk already; you've been waiting *since Friday* for them to "talk to me", don't take anymore waiting because you really don't have much time left for waiting
asciilifeform: and how about the actually in-command bipeds ? they are in brazil or where ? why can't get to'em in person ?
asciilifeform: hey BingoBoingo they have an office in there, don't they ? why are you stuck waiting for email replies ? go there
diana_coman: asciilifeform: tbh that's the mind-boggling thing ie what exactly are/were latech doing; and I'd say BingoBoingo_ goes there with a flamethrower and doesn't leave until he finds out.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: re data in any case, it's the initial incident, I didn't specifically ask them for *all requests to my server*; I asked them exactly for "attack", apparently some 8 minutes on Friday before they updated their rules and got rid of it pretty much.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-07 08:09:13 mp_en_viaje: he's studied ~nothing, he's changed to no degree, he's just waiting for it to come out of his fucking birth canal already so his ankles unswell and he can walk without a swaddle again. of course, they'll probably impregnate him again later, they, the unknown, the unspeakable fates, these shadowy men he doesn't know the name of nor can even look in the face of, they just come at night and fuck him pregnant, and the
mp_en_viaje: and then, inverosimilously, his housekeeper, who memorized 3*6 and 3*8 as such, as pure symbols, "why 2 schillings and not 9 glubghsh?" does not know 21. because what the fuck, she's only been doing this for decades and it just didn't stick in her mind. she's a 6yo 50yo very respecable moron.
mp_en_viaje: oedipus rex is nothing else and naught besides "what if jocasta met oedipus". that they coincidentally did meet, whereas newton and charles coincidentally didn't meet is irrelevant. it's the lot of the greeks to only write a bout encounters that took place, through lack of correct numeration system to permit them egress from their simple naivity. but we have better representation systems, so we can write better thestre.
mp_en_viaje: which yes, liberates threatre itself from the directly munane requirements of the trade in meats. if you want to get a better price for the prize heifer you raised, get her a "leaked tape", don't try and put her in a play. alright, all good.
mp_en_viaje: if you don't study and practice to be a manager, you will never be one, except in contexts such as "a disappointing manager". if you don't study and practice to be a dc tech, you will never be one either. nothing you will be, unless you study and practice that thing, and these are not idle words, they're day after day and hour after hour ~actual~ activity.
mp_en_viaje: he's studied ~nothing, he's changed to no degree, he's just waiting for it to come out of his fucking birth canal already so his ankles unswell and he can walk without a swaddle again. of course, they'll probably impregnate him again later, they, the unknown, the unspeakable fates, these shadowy men he doesn't know the name of nor can even look in the face of, they just come at night and fuck him pregnant, and then he's stuc
mp_en_viaje: did you spend your time poring over "how does networking work ?" "what is connectivity ?" how many dc maps did you review, how many dc people did you talk to and what about, did you bother to learn the global connectivity map by heart, just as a fuckyou to the darkness, "look, i can trace all the main lines people spent millions / meter to even lay in the first place, you can't even draw the fucking planisphere and i can dra
mp_en_viaje: so, you take job running isp, have some time there, do not spend that time to acquire the things someone running isp has and you do not. then later, you're doing whatever it is you're doing for pizarro, it's not clear to me (or, i suspect, to them), but you don't actually acquire ~any~ kind of skills involved.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo_, i tell you i don't comprehend this defective approach, as seen in "I don't know if I can continue to make camp in Uruguay on Qntra alone or in combination with the local economy of faltas. Maybe I breed rabbits" and elsewhere.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-07 03:37:23 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, honestly i ddin't want to use them because moldavia right next to ru geograpically, but i guess they're making it strictly impossible not to. i will have to sit down lobbes' thing somewhere as per our contract, and considering it's been a fucking month ALREADY i'd rather not have it waited, especially indefinitely.
mp_en_viaje: o wait, it was given as such. wtf, archive.is is retarded, can't find it by search ?
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, honestly i ddin't want to use them because moldavia right next to ru geograpically, but i guess they're making it strictly impossible not to. i will have to sit down lobbes' thing somewhere as per our contract, and considering it's been a fucking month ALREADY i'd rather not have it waited, especially indefinitely.
lobbes: guess I can't think of a reason why I would, tbh. Really all I need is an income with what to feed myself.
lobbes: (No selection working on above test blog, so can't link to portion specifically. Though folx can laugh at my solipsistic rantings as they scroll toward the 03:00 mark I suppose)
lobbes: http://trilema.com/2019/albertina-hurr/ << a++ photos btw. If I weren't so poor I'd suspect I'd move to Vienna today.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 16:52:01 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940666 << this is sad, but unrelated. you drop the hand when you establish it can't win, not when you decide you "can afford to lose" your imaginary share of the value of the pot.
ossabot: Logged on 2019-10-06 14:46:49 asciilifeform: i dun even disagree with mp_en_viaje's drop if you can't win -- but the flip side is that must NOT surrender if still could.
mp_en_viaje: so the notion that "latechco is protecting other derps" can't possibly hold any water : you're the only derps on the two 100mb lines and the one c-block route you pay for.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, listen, take the weekend off / do some writing / whatever you don't need the pizmess for.
mp_en_viaje: ie, if you had a healthy customer base built in the intervening peacetime, this wouldn't even be much of a problem, per se. and if you don't build same, nothing else will be any kind of solution, no matter what it is, up to and including god's own hand coming down from heavens above holding a shimmering rjack finished in pure samite.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940879 << i honestly don't think specific derpitude in uruguay is the problem. sales is the problem, and has been, and i expect shall remain.
BingoBoingo: mp_en_viaje: DDoS was a thing before Cloudflare, but I don't recall random i.e. without explicit demand DDoS being a thing until Cloudflare came around.
diana_coman: BingoBoingo: sadly for production server I don't think it's useful to change the IP; I suppose we are lucky in that it's now rather than after eulora release.
diana_coman: asciilifeform: trouble with production server is that people connect to known IP; can't quite ask players to change IP
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 19:25:34 mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1941077 - I don't see it in either of the last 2 vpatches; fwiw I looked in the reader's code too: the tokenizer treats the ' as start of a quote and then fails for not having the end ' it expects
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, don't have to do it right now, let your boss wake up, why not.
mp_en_viaje: BingoBoingo, what's wrong with "i will absolutely need a proper packet capture here, the colorful graphs and choice epithets don't help. can you send the relevant .pcap files over please"
mp_en_viaje: "here's the 5k packets you received during 10 minutes, LISTED. we can't handle over 10/s, sorry" is one thing. "here's some colors" is... another thing.
mp_en_viaje: so i can't really say anything intelligent on THAT score.
mp_en_viaje: the 7007245 hits for 24 days of june (2016!) ~averages~ to almost 300k a day, meaning it peaks above that, meaning etcetera. ima stop quoting these, but the idea is : i can't even currently guess whether your contact deems 1 connection/second a ddos. maybe it does, nfi, no way to tell from those derpy graphs. is it 10 ? 100 ? dude has no fucking idea either
mp_en_viaje: in fairness, it's entirely possible they don't even know what it is / how to make one.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i already said that http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-04#1940475 ; this hasn't changed notwithstanding it seems the one day is turning into a long weekend.
mp_en_viaje: doesn't seem we're making contact here.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't know why you keep saying that. sales is neither an optional nor a coinditional part of business.
asciilifeform: can't sell boxen that aint there.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i haven't the capital to take it out, or a where-to.
mp_en_viaje: it didn't get past the starting, by specifically avoiding any sort of sales. in three instantiations.
mp_en_viaje: you said something that doesn't read but nevertheless implies "oh, this multi-dc thing is what i proposed and you rejected in 2017". then upon review it comes out i never rejected. then you link somewhere else where we discuss how, if pizarro ever manages to get any business, it can grow.
mp_en_viaje: i don't get wtf you're saying here.
mp_en_viaje: nope. the only possible take is that ineptitude doesn't fix itself, either you fix it or it stays.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, did i miss something in there ? seems to me that "this alternative is unrelated to a proposal by asciilifeform back in 2017 when he couldn't get anyone to usefully answer from ru or india" would be a much closer summary.
mp_en_viaje is not particularly proud of scheme described, hence "one possible continuation". we evidently didn't get what we want, or anything even remotely like it.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/ossasepia/2019-09-27#1004197 << i am with you here, there doesn't seem to be a problem ?
ossabot: (ossasepia) 2019-09-27 maxim_mivo: We don't offer a KVM service since all our servers are equipped with an OOB Managment module (iDRAC, IPMI, iLO, etc.)
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i know you don't liek to read castles, but this thread b/w asciilifeform and diana_coman's heathen isp man is pertinent.
asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: there wasn't what to sell !
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, i don't believe the iron buildout was actually an asset for pizarro, business wise.
asciilifeform doesn't want 'commodity vps' even for free
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, supposedly because you have good automated fallbacks people can't be bothered to write themselves. sorta early handcranked UCI.
mp_en_viaje: there'd be also a theoretical 3, where you move to different dc because this one specifically wasn't good ; but considering you didn't discover on own feet the not-goodness, but had to wait for events, thisis purely a theoretical alternative.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940834 << in practice, there's the following practical solutions : 1. you folk move on to an ipx. this requires exactly the skillset you don't have, wherein you don't sit on ass 2y talking to an "oscar" who couldn't give shit about you (after however long failing to produce any modicum of insertion that led to the original blowup / massive investor haircut pizarro came out of
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-05 16:52:01 mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940666 << this is sad, but unrelated. you drop the hand when you establish it can't win, not when you decide you "can afford to lose" your imaginary share of the value of the pot.
asciilifeform: i dun even disagree with mp_en_viaje's drop if you can't win -- but the flip side is that must NOT surrender if still could.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It would mean Antel provides the RJ45 for each box, each RJ45 billed seperately. This would increase the complexity of administration and billing, but I don't know materially different it could be from the current situation in practice.
asciilifeform: this , i won't speculate about, will leave it to who has the capital to finance such an experiment.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: if we were hosting gossipd nodes instead of public www's and irc bots, then indeed wouldn't matter that 90% of our ip block at any given time is awol. could simply walk it until connects to noad via the remaining. but we aint..
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: elementarily suggests that it wasn't done via bgp.
ericbot: Logged on 2019-10-06 08:48:11 mp_en_viaje: hm, http://thewhet.net/ loads, http://qntra.net/ loads, http://bingology.net/ doesn't, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log doesn't... are you two being aggravated over there ?
mp_en_viaje: to be honest, the romanians of the 80s were a sad copy of german imperialism cca 1800s. got even a sorta-colony in congo, recall the paperwork wherein ceausescu whines bogota won't play its age of sail role ?
diana_coman: yeah, I don't think it has anything to do with anything ie it's just another sort of spam.
diana_coman: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-06#1940762 - if you want specifically trilema, it should be /log/trilema without it you'll get to whichever chan is first in the list but there's no guarantee that won't change, in principle
mp_en_viaje: hm, http://thewhet.net/ loads, http://qntra.net/ loads, http://bingology.net/ doesn't, http://logs.nosuchlabs.com/log doesn't... are you two being aggravated over there ?
BingoBoingo: lobbes: Go for it. billymg's return didn't end the world.
BingoBoingo: If another lord wants to step up and try Vienna, Portugal, Minks, etc... I don't know that "Señor (Herr?) Rogier hopped on a plane to a strange land before" should necessarily block someone else from the opportunity.
BingoBoingo: Uruguay isn't without its charms, and it may be time to let another lord the opportunity to claw their way out of the zone. I woke up today with the oddly relaxing freedom that comes from not knowing what the immediate future holds, even if last night I put a good number of kilometers on the odometer in the drizzle loosening the big ball of stress I'd been trapped in.
billymg: no worries, i was keeping up with the logs during the whole episode. seems quite unfortunate that even the datacenter hosting piz suffers from http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940547 but i certainly don't put this on you
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:59:50 mp_en_viaje: but this isn't the kind of thing were they may be permitted to walk away without bringing money from home.
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940666 << this is sad, but unrelated. you drop the hand when you establish it can't win, not when you decide you "can afford to lose" your imaginary share of the value of the pot.
snsabot: (eulora) 2017-10-01 mircea_popescu: kline this presupposes all people are equal. this isn't much regarded in the republican ideology. properly speaking someone worth 1mn speaking one line in ngins is more than a thousand worth 10bux each speaking a line each in same nginx.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: do you know where is freenode's "won't federate answer"? I can't seem to find it at all; there's the initial talk in #freenode and then follow up in #eulora but nothing after that
mp_en_viaje: http://logs.ossasepia.com/log/trilema/2019-10-05#1940652 << they don't necessarily cost anything, peering is called that because free. they MAY costr something uf you're small, but guaranteed less per terabit than anythingelse.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:59:50 mp_en_viaje: but this isn't the kind of thing were they may be permitted to walk away without bringing money from home.
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 05:23:04 mp_en_viaje: atm i dunno i'd trust anyone from russia or recommend anyone move there. the one time this happened it blowed up in such a sickly manner, i absolutely don't want to spend the significant resources involved in dealing with the clean-up. as far as anyone knows, moscow's bogon-radioactive
snsabot: Logged on 2019-10-05 04:49:08 mp_en_viaje: this is a judgment much akin to, "look, in your locale enel spa is the energy provider, monopoly by law, you're buying energy from them" "i'd have to look for my contract" "no, actually, you don't have to. i can tell you from ten thousand miles away, on this basis"
mp_en_viaje: but this isn't the kind of thing were they may be permitted to walk away without bringing money from home.
mp_en_viaje: your notion is exactly my notion, "subset of same set" translates as "they're the same thing" as in, "measures of x coord". then you emphasize giving the symmetry point, where i couldn't care less. and BECAUSE your notion of opposite requires a given symmetry point, then therefore your notion of "what the set may be" is limited thereby, so it'll be things like "measures of coordinates" or such narrow things. whereas my set i
diana_coman: I don't see it; owning is the opposite of not owning; in as much as borrowing is not owning, there's the opposite; ducks don't enter into it
mp_en_viaje: "he had it, he lost it, he never got it back". attempts to "intelectual" himself by the breeches, doesn't lift.