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Framedragger: i just mean that a box behind NAT won't show up in that !$ssh query
asciilifeform: my current hypothesis, re why sporadic, is that somebody made it a payload for a 'cheap' botnet, and nodes fire sporadically
Framedragger: you may overestimating the number of non-NAT'ed boxes mircea_popescu
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: gotta have a web browser to browse the web, dontcha?
asciilifeform: fuck no, these ain't browsers
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they seem repeated. possibly browsers retrying ?
asciilifeform: see the problem ?
gabriel_laddel_p: But it presents a way to get off of "the web", and then swap the underlying networking implementation for gossipd, while retaining a usable UI throughout.
asciilifeform: say you were to paste in a jpeg, and on my end i dun have your renderer.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: what does this look like on receiving end ?
gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, hacked the "black diamond" CLIM-web hack a few nights ago. IE, tying graphics to IRC messages via BEIRC.
trinque: no, fate will do something completely unexpected to it.
asciilifeform: maybe this will help.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: incidentally i have not forgotten about your shortage of comps, i did get ye olde x61 out of storage, and dusted off, will be posting it this weekend when going to town.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: my laptop's internal charger broke, and I'm sitting here waiting on a charging deck to show up.
trinque: because not place to shit privately yet.
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet a mega-breakthrough that only exists upon this earth as slides in 2-3 frames of some obscure lecture film. but who knows, always a first time.
asciilifeform: socrates, we're told, also 'worked best in video', or how did it go ; plato -- wrote down.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: if you believe this, plz consider , again, writing it down.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: Absurdity. Carver Mead's G4V presentation comes across far better in his video than in his paper, and the video includes slides that don't exist elsewhere.
asciilifeform: i have not watched the film, gabriel_laddel_p . but its existence ~in that form~ does not bode well for the content. but if gabriel_laddel_p wants to write about what he saw -- i'll read..
asciilifeform: i bet if webcam existed when tesla was old an' feeding pigeons -- he would've rambled into a webcam.
asciilifeform: buncha these folx -- alan kay, ted nelson, et al
asciilifeform: aging tesla, is what.
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: Bill Gosper is what then.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: not even speaking of actual breakthroughs -- even discerning crackpots do not put their work in format of 'video' , but written word
gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: there is no standard presentation of the unified theory. All we have is an experiment showing the A-> field is required to fully describe EM.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel_p: if you intended to link to unified theory... you made mistake, you linked to schoolbook that everyone has
gabriel_laddel_p: Also I take it nobody watched the video of what the hasllife author is up to these days I posted to Ben's blog?
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 16:20 phf: i don't share the anti-postscript sentiment. i think it's a maxwell's equation of graphics programming. introduces idea of graphics state stack, with operations that happen inside state or in transition between state (e.g. "displace everything that i said so far by n pixels right") . pretty much all the graphics code (including for example opengl) is a variation on what postscript does. and most of the things postscript does simply doesn't make any sen
asciilifeform: this thing comes & goes, it is clearly in experimental stage.
mircea_popescu: dump the log ?
mircea_popescu: which is why the no one in question finds itself stuck trying to MAGA.
mircea_popescu: the happenstance that the former are ~all economically useless, and the latter ~all economically useful AND collectively the whole gamut of economy interests no one
mircea_popescu: but anyway, a fine summary of modernity is "the time when middle class status went from owning $x in property to owning $x in property AND generating $y in income".
asciilifeform: they ain't about to simply give up.
mircea_popescu: some have speculated they might not have a choice.
Framedragger: (i assume web caches older version for now, but web is only preview-mode of the actual thing anyway)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: hey , these are the folx hell-bent on retrofitting inflation into bitcoin somehow. are firmly convinced that they will eventually do it ( alternative is to 'lie down and rot' , from their pov , world with perma-working bitcoin in it is not one they wish to even conceive of living in )
Framedragger: trinque: niice, lgtm, many thanks
mircea_popescu: fucking jobsworths and their demented perspective.
mircea_popescu: wtf is bitcoin income even FOR, one wonders. not like bitcoin inflates. if you accumulate you just increase your share in total wealth.
Framedragger: (^ ah nick in lowercase, so grep needs to be, too)
trinque: Framedragger: I dunno what you mean by teh old ratings
Framedragger: trinque: while at it i'll just mention that mine still doesn't have teh old ratings, not that i need them any time soon, just adding to the list. god knows my own list is long :(
mircea_popescu: some have speculated i forgot about that.
trinque: 1900 is the real 1970, way lispier
mircea_popescu: he's using the lisp not the unix thing
mircea_popescu: sell phuctor to north korea, lulz & profit.
asciilifeform: various idiocies, i can't be arsed to catalogue'em all
trinque: mircea_popescu: those are lispy "univeral time", integer seconds since 1900 jan 1 00:00:00
mircea_popescu: fine, but i find it rather lulzy that apparently i have to worry about "Bitcoin revenue", as if i can't trade fiatola for bitcoin like anyone else ; and that somehow i should be worried while sitting on technology the usg couldn't replicate in spite of trying for a coupla years.
asciilifeform: or the slightly more advanced kakobreklan version, 'oh that wasn't mircea_popescu's thing, it was asciilifeform , mircea_popescu only drinks his blood'
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: standard unhappentronic algo -- 'if i strategically omit to mention it, it will unexist'
mircea_popescu: but how are the others derived ?
trinque: http://wot.deedbot.org/6ACE36E786F39A4ADC4506DE0FF2943DA179E169.html << human timestamps here
mircea_popescu: how the fuck do the speculating somebodies pick their speculatin' substance ?
mircea_popescu: somehow "some are speculating" failed to speculate about how you know, nsa now sells pcb+ic assemblies.
trinque: !!ratings thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: by now it's ~bitbet sized, in terms of "bitcoin mp holds for other people".
asciilifeform: about how human affairs work, and ought to work
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-17 03:39:24: <mircea_popescu> eulora economy went up ~900% from 1st sept 2015 to 1st april 2017. 20 months.
mircea_popescu: but, talking of eulora, http://logs.minigame.bz/2017-05-17.log.html#t03:39:24
asciilifeform: apparently rats in the sewer have conversations and things
mircea_popescu: i can't talk about being a pimp on the clear net ? holy shit i wrote the fucking textbook on it ?
asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:27 basically from a purely logical standpoint MP’s last bastion in generating bitcoin revenue is 1) through activities he can’t talk about on the clear net (he used to be a pimp and made money that way in the RO days), 2) through Eulora which is basically just A Tale in the Desert with Bitcoin' << didjaknow
mircea_popescu: trinque Sat Oct 7 06:37:43 CST 2084 << say, how do i get unixtime from deedbot time ?
mircea_popescu: danieldaniel was this 16yo iirc, hung around -otc
asciilifeform: 'not ivan, but pyotr, and not won, but lost, and not the lottery, but at cards' ☟︎
mircea_popescu: 3583332741. that's ... a long time ago.
trinque: lol, was that 10 from danielpbarron supposed to be positive?
trinque: !!reputation thestringpuller
asciilifeform: but afaik that was it
asciilifeform: at one time he grudgingly tested some trb
mircea_popescu: i dunno, 've not been following, but anyway. i can't recall him doing something over the years.
asciilifeform: !!gettrust thestringpuller
asciilifeform: by the latrine.
mircea_popescu: can the useless twerp even voice himself here ?
asciilifeform: https://bitcoincore.slackarchive.io/welcome/page-99 << subj ( nfi if this renders in human browser )
mircea_popescu: and where the fuck were they with the "speculating" back when buffett had no option but to pretend like i dun exist.
mircea_popescu: dude look at that, some speculated ? who the fuck speculated, thestringpuller ?
asciilifeform: incidentally, last i heard - actual 'best korea' has considerably less incatronic, in practice, commercial life than usaschwitz
mircea_popescu: such a best korea you folks got going there.
asciilifeform: excluding the great inca from your transaction is the mega-crime.
asciilifeform: 'Klein faces five years in federal prison for operating an illegal money exchange—a money exchange that traded USD for property, according to the IRS’s BTC tax document.'
asciilifeform: s at such a commission, IRS agents arrested him without mention of the money.'
asciilifeform: from earlier, 'They reached out to “jrklein,” out of thousands of LBC users, and arranged a meet. All said and done, the IRS agents met with Klein five times. The IRS agents clarified—with or to Klein—that they wanted to exchange their cash for his Bitcoin. Although other possible transactions existed on LBC, cash for Bitcoin was not uncommon. He made charged a 10 percent commission rate, and although the internet often scoff
trinque: mircea_popescu: looking into wtf happened with this JonDough guy's reg
phf: but if you're actually trying to render tits with full knowledge of medium, you have to layout your pixels manually, with the full "what is dpi, what is point, etc." awareness
trinque: whole countries of them actually.
asciilifeform: apparently there are junkyards for people.
asciilifeform: 'thestringpuller May 18, 2017 11:32 @davef Dunno. Some speculated MP was broke and couldn’t warrant the losses to keep BitBet going' << didjaknow !!
phf: there are hacks in postscript that let you dump a raw pixel buffer (as is the case in most graphics libraries, there's "graphics language" and "dump these special bits in internal format")
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 15:21 moli_: it's a stupid slack to house people like bamb0u
asciilifeform: briefly upstack : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658014 << i tracked down the heathen pit in question, for entomological purposes. the only possibly lulzy bit is that it turns out to be thestringpuller 's new home. ☝︎☟︎
phf: my point though is that i don't know an alternative to platonic postscript (which can be closely executed in adobe postscript, but also ghostscript, etc.) when it comes to doing graphics. in this case adobe postscript is a kind of c bitcoin
asciilifeform: knuth however was aware that raster photosetter ( a la modern process -- essentially laser printer ) had become a thing, vs old-fashioned ( essentially optoelectronic version of drum printer, with template wheels )
mircea_popescu: now, in fairness, knuth had nfi of this, was deeply displeased by the poor quality of the image generated at the edge of this design graph, mostly due to cost saving and poor machinery, not substantially due to the item itself.
mircea_popescu: the 2-3 transition may be argued as "oh, like i wouldn't have figured that twirl on my own anyway". nevertheless, the 2-5 continuity doth revolve around warnock fellow.
asciilifeform: most folx who encounter, say, hashlife, even today go 'wtf, martian'