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mod6: ive got a separate vm that has 1Gb of ram and it runs for about a 18-20 hours before it runs out of ram.
mod6: i've got a buddy running it on an aws micro with like 600Mb and it's working, but it runs itself out of ram like 1x per hour.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what would you say is minimal ram for a 0.5.3 node bringup ?
pete_dushenski: that's a funny nickname then
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: cheapest means of getting a unit with arbitrarily expandable storage is to pick one with usb lines
pete_dushenski: a well til
mike_c: pete_dushenski: he's a partner, not sole proprietor.
nubbins`: package and market it right, you could make a tidy sum
asciilifeform: Apocalyptic: if you like 'arm', there are a thousand boards to choose from.
nubbins`: asciilifeform: beaglebone black w/ custom-made btc-branded case, preloaded w/ software and ready to go. Slap it in a plastic clamshell, "babby's first bitcoin node"
asciilifeform: undata: i have a number of them, for various experiments
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i have 'openbsd' on one of these. also a little sluggish, though not as dreadful as 'raspberry'
undata: wouldn't be bad to know the least amount of computer that could reasonably be expected to keep up with the blockchain for a worthwhile amount of time
nubbins`: how about a beaglebox
pete_dushenski: a yes!
mike_c: b-a has a dice site, coinroll
mike_c: yeah. what a money spout that thing was. i miss it.
pete_dushenski: i was thinking that someone in the wot needs to get a dice site going and i was going to see if j-d was in need of a new owner but it looks like it's still running?
undata: if the tutorial included bootstrap.dat maybe, and even then would take a lifetime to catch up from there
asciilifeform: nubbins`: they used a defective i/o chip, which is abominably slow
mircea_popescu: nubbins` is the raspberry still on a queue ? or they worked itthrough yet ?
asciilifeform: nubbins`: go try set up a node (any version of bitcoind you like) on 'raspberry'.
mircea_popescu: yeh a $100 router is a bit rich.
nubbins`: two raspberry pis for the cost of a $100 router :P
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: do you have a favourite piece of hardware in mind? preferably one which you know to be readily available around the world.
mircea_popescu: i just want a single item containing absolutely 100% everything that is needed, with no references.
mircea_popescu: or a blogpost.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it would be quite simple to distribute a binary image that a monkey could pipe to usb flash and insert. for man, rather than monkey, one would prefer a 'thebitcoin.foundation'-style cookbook with signed configs/patches...
nubbins`: "The battery just died in my camera, so i am taking a quick break"
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: glad you enjoyed the articles. i actually have a new one in the works, but - no time presently to finish it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm not certain, however, that 'edgerouter' would be the optimal candidate for the mega-cheap node. the device itself is around 100 usd, and a decently large flash drive is yet again a quarter of that.
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: i generally don't write the kind of article that doesn't require at least a full day's concentration.
pete_dushenski: seems like you had a solid streak going
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: near the end of that page there is a script for cross-compile to mips on a larger machine (e.g. x86)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: router... instructions << see this site: http://rtfm.net/FreeBSD/ERL >> the only modification is, take a larger usb flash drive, follow his gpart resize instructions.
BingoBoingo: My two favorite parts of speech to use "Fuck" as are pronoun and adverb. "Stupid fuck, stop fuckly jumping around like a fuck."
BingoBoingo: Of course not. It's a carnival barker's scam.
BingoBoingo: I'm telling you the better version of this scam would be an artisan laser etching booth with a placebo joystick.
mircea_popescu: davout actually the best continuation of the laser handcarving drama would be if the guy turns out to be a midget chinese woman that does it with her nails.
davout: semantically the french "labourer" is a subset of "to labour"
mircea_popescu: "you know you could have had duck a la reine for the same money ?"
davout: a screencap of a stock picture is OC!1 genius!
mircea_popescu: "I NEVER SAID THAT IT WAS FROM MY OWN MIND, I HAVE ALREADY SAID THAT I USED STOCK IMAGES ON SOME OF THE PIECES. that is not a crime, i own the rights to them. 70% of your metal coins on the forum have stock image elements on them. Better start a dozen more witch hunts."
nubbins`: my dslr will take a minimum of 20 minutes of video at a time
davout: nubbins`: just make a fake expert woodcarver competitor account, you'll probably get a whole extra load of lulz out of it
nubbins`: "I dont have a youtube account. Well, didnt have a youtube account. With new accounts you can only upload 10 minute videos i just found out. My DSLR camcorder records 20 minutes of video at a time."
davout: mircea_popescu: how will it know theymos is around if doesn't hang out in a chan where gribble also idles?
nubbins`: someone with a twatter account ask thermos to manually restore the woodcollector scamzor thread
mircea_popescu: midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth << sworn testimony is sworn testimony. unless the witness gets impeached, it's worth as much as an employee's testimony
assbot: Logged on 22-01-2015 20:46:00; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this.
undata: http://blogs.blackberry.com/2015/01/blackberry-net-neutrality/ << bb having been beaten to a pulp, demands the state level the playing field
BingoBoingo: SMS is a scam anyway
assbot: It’s really smart as a business owner to go around publicly harassing people /davoutplantaire http://t.co/3MvaixKHb5
ben_vulpes: <davout> [] https://twitter.com/OtaK_/status/558321238230462464 <<< this replace-pronouns twitter butthurt flow seems to be attracting a whole new level of stupid << i don't get the 140 character
mircea_popescu: lobbes: I'm glad I discovered this place, man. Otherwise I would have been led off the cliff a long time ago << yer welcome.
mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: if a tree falls in the woods, and nobody important was there to write about it, did it make a sound? << yes. after the beep, hear the sound it made.
mircea_popescu: *: danielpbarron seriously doubts it will be on freenode in 20 years, or if there will even be a freenode << as far as freenode is concenred, i am agreed. however, b-a is 4ever!
cazalla: bitcoinpresscenter.org was andreas derps response after he was denied a listing on some other bitcoin site from memory
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay << lol!! srsly ? in usa, no less?
mircea_popescu: methinks we see a jailed & pardoned marquardt show up here to "talk business" within the year.
mircea_popescu: but seriously : so the people too dumb to participate in the actual bitcoin discussion, here, eitehr because they can't get an irc client going or because they can't gpg or whatever, because their windows doesn't come with a "b-a button", sit somewhere and derp.
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla i ask specifically because i have a coupla derps im paying via bitpay currently.
davout: yeah, he's a cowboy
BingoBoingo: And astroturf is a phenomenon, not a who
mircea_popescu: looked a lot like astroturf, turns out it is exactly astroturf.
mircea_popescu: "Declaration of Interest. We have investments in Paycoin (XPY) and in GAW. We invest in order to generate funds to continue running this site. We would not invest in anything we considered to be a Ponzi or Scam. We have exercised due diligence and believe this to be a trustworthy company and project. We also provide links to trusted 3rd party sites.
asciilifeform: jurov: to pose the question of 'hardware diddlery' for a machine in one's kitchen, can be called superstition; to pose the same question re: xxx thousand physically identical bitcoin nodes airdropped over enemy country, is stark rationality.
danielpbarron: wow, the topic of "cyber security" is being covered by someone named "GloZell," a youtuber famous for filling her bathtub with milk and cereal and swiming in it
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i was sorta assuming that mircea was posing the problem of whether a node could be optimized for 1) minimal cost 2) physical compactness in that order, perhaps to be airdropped behind enemy lines
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: those ARM servers that got in france, more than qualified to run this << what do they cost? iirc mircea was asking for a dirt-cheap gadget
BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: To be fair his settlement bars him from Bitcoin securities for a while
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ideal candidate for an instant pocket-sized ~100 usd (largely cost of eeprom) node - miniature 'nas' devices. there are at least half a dozen manufacturers. not hard to do.
midnightmagic: ehh.. the testimoney of a friend. what's that worth
gribble: Error: "kittenlasers" is not a valid command.
gribble: Error: "kittenlaser" is not a valid command.
BingoBoingo: Dude could call himself a master laserworker to get his margins back up
BingoBoingo: nubbins`: I'm thinking you set up the normal carved while you wait booth at the mall or carnival or whatever with your laser, but you plug in a joystick and a trackball to make it seem like you are piloting the laser manually.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ... if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on 'how to turn commercially available router into btc full node' << the gadget i mentioned earlier, plus process, only need a larger - 64G+ - usb drive, to make this go. but i did not publish instructions, because did not think anyone wanted this. ☟︎
danielpbarron: "People emailed me saying she is not a dog so i googled llama and she is a llama, and I am keeping her because she already likes me and my house."
kakobrekla: ascii has a tanget router
mircea_popescu: if bitcoin nodes would cost something like 50 bucks and 6 hours' time off a computer-aware kid, that'd help immensely
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Sounds like enough for almost everything but respectable BTC node << actually, if anyone could be arsed to publish a guide on "how to turn commercially available router into btc full node" i'd love him long time. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: the one guy i knew that was best at it used to be a war photoreporter before.
mircea_popescu: it doesn't pay that much, you have to travel a lot, and what you don't see is that most hourlong shots take like 4 or 5, because constant interruptions.
mircea_popescu: you know, it actually is pretty shitty a job ?
mod6: every day is a great day! lol
mod6: now, there's a stress-free job. go around taking photos of those girls.
mircea_popescu: http://40.media.tumblr.com/973de9a76c1d60f52173199e053d9e25/tumblr_ng3qs8sdhy1s9e2ofo1_500.jpg me, i'm more of a city type.
fluffypony: STRML: that's because it's interpreting the \n as a line break
STRML: mircea_popescu: working in linux mint as well, although I get a message about an invalid armor header
Naphex: thats a new hipster way to blow up your stuff
Naphex: mircea_popescu: was using HP Proliants for a while, had one that the whole 8x raid array just barked, as soon as i replaced 1 hdd, the other would fail
mircea_popescu: fluffypony because he is a 24 yo derp exactly like any 24 yo derp you could get by sending a naked 23 yo hottie parading down the street.
fluffypony: it would take maybe a day to move that backend over to a Galera cluster
fluffypony: it still boggles my mind that with all the donation money he can't afford to pay a part-time sysadmin to get them setup properly
Naphex: mircea_popescu: doubt anyone was monitoring those servers. HDD's give quite a few warnings before blowing up. Especially in raid setups
mircea_popescu: Naphex the dcs that work with noobs generally (if well managed) do two things : only use a few specific types, and keep a supply on hand.
kakobrekla: a
fluffypony: especially on a day like today when Bitcointalk is down
fluffypony: the reddits were all "OMG GAVIN HAS THE PATIENCE OF A GOD. HE IS TRULY A SAINT."