asciilifeform: but jurov isn't wrong, per se, there probably ~is~ a reactor somewhere handled by four java boxes trying to cover for each other's garbagecollector pauses

asciilifeform: jurov: go feed it the text

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1) nothing realtime-reactive runs in java 2) the counter overflows after what was it, 8 months of continuous engine time ????

asciilifeform: jurov: ask the folks with the intact sov reactors

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2015#1222312 << aha, international komy000nity!!! ☝︎

asciilifeform: buy new, get 'siemens', run moar winblowz.

asciilifeform: can't get the pdp new.

asciilifeform: this is because the poor saps were stuck buying new

asciilifeform: where yes, winblowz

asciilifeform: jurov is almost certainly thinking of the refinery

asciilifeform: (which in turn is mostly a display of gui dials and gauges)

asciilifeform: largely autonomous from the shitputer

asciilifeform: and i'd bet good money that there is, somewhere deep inside that win2k reactor, a real computer

asciilifeform: jurov: the thing is, nothing is built from the ground up (except for the circus mentioned earlier just now by mircea_popescu) with 'excel'. the infrastructure is running on fumes

asciilifeform: well sure

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2015#1222307 << no shit. and if i'd learned it, wouldn't need the diagram. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://www.kafka.org/index.php?aid=172 << obligatory

asciilifeform: 'away from here'

asciilifeform: just let me know the day before, so i can catch the last plane out.

asciilifeform: it'll be grand.

asciilifeform: yes, let's have winblowz, poettering, drepper, chinese capacitors, in reactor room.

asciilifeform: when a pc runs reactor - yes, that is the end.

asciilifeform: the thing that ~must~ be understood is that the ancient iron is maintained entirely, wholly, as a shield against microshitification

asciilifeform: and yes, i can understand why.

asciilifeform: but no, the unspoken qualification is the two-metre-long beard

asciilifeform raises hand

asciilifeform: 'PDP-11 assembler coders are hard to find' << what a pile of shit

asciilifeform: (in the rocket, a miniaturized variant; on land - the real thing)

asciilifeform: kakobrekla: it was officially proclaimed, at one point, that the sole remaining american land-based nuke delivery vehicle, 'minuteman', is 100% vax-powered

asciilifeform: because if it were not - the water stops coming out of the tap

asciilifeform: instead, it is, e.g., transplanted to a 486 using the emulator mentioned earlier, handwritten by a fella with prolly a metre-long beard

asciilifeform: i will add, btw, that yes, i know that 'code from 1973' is not 'maintained' in the modern idiot bottomless-barrel-of-bug sense

asciilifeform: iirc the 'cypherpunk' folks thought of themselves as anonymous soldiers trying to pave the way for 'lords' to use key without insta-flagging

asciilifeform: Slutware Linux << win

asciilifeform: and then gives it out to demented bums

asciilifeform: which prints the payola

asciilifeform: if you go by financials, then the 'industry' is the u.s. fed.

asciilifeform: not the flies on his horns.

asciilifeform: easy: the ox

asciilifeform: etc

asciilifeform: and the condom injection molds going

asciilifeform: the industry, in actuality, is grey beards maintaining code written in 1973, which keeps the water mains pressurized and the lights on.

asciilifeform: no.

asciilifeform: (as do a great many american .mil systems, of the kind which still work)

asciilifeform: which still runs, yes, on pdp

asciilifeform: this one is intended for industrial plant

asciilifeform: not hobbyists. those use 'open source' emu

asciilifeform: on whom the remnants of 'the west' stand, like on elephants on turtles.

asciilifeform: folks with beards as long as my arm.

asciilifeform: somebody's buying that.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall that pdp emulator fella ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: i know, this sound like 'martians live among us'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: industry exists

asciilifeform: and the 'pretend culture' at least in as far as it concerns public key crypto, was a very deliberate plank of the 'cypherpunk' folks - 'let's use crypto for every piece of shit, to defeat traffic analysis'

asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/openbsd_backdoor_claim << rumour

asciilifeform: but it may have involved freebsd

asciilifeform also recalls

asciilifeform: (if he did, by all rights 2015 ought to have happened in 2005, or 1995... ?)

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: but how often? between him and the gods. i wouldn't know

asciilifeform: (of anvin et all)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc linus checks sigs

asciilifeform: what i mean to say is, the folks selected for this special delicacy treat, were selected presumably for reasons ?

asciilifeform: and the folks releasing code (anvin? a few others?) did sign it

asciilifeform: and some of the maths students may have had something or other to say to someone or other

asciilifeform: had at least in their own planet, a use

asciilifeform: idk, the 'update signing key' people

asciilifeform: well no shit.

asciilifeform: as in, nothing ever changed from their signature being on it or not ?

asciilifeform: wai wut

asciilifeform: 'go to the place - where? no one knows, and bring me back that - which? no one knows' (tm)

asciilifeform: that one didn't even sign his name!

asciilifeform: ah that one

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah i recall. was it anvin? iirc

asciilifeform: punkman: nope. and it would almost certainly vanish in their spam filter, also.

asciilifeform: i suppose now that their names have been 'googleable' for months, and still no reaction - this conclusion is nearly inescapable

asciilifeform: not one ?

asciilifeform: what, ~nobody on the list~ has brain ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would like to find what they have in common ?

asciilifeform: (doubt it will have any effect. perhaps ought to consider spamming them?)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote a short post last night, linking to an archive.today of the phuctored list, and exhorting the folks whose names appear therein to write

asciilifeform: aha.

asciilifeform: and clicked (by mistake) just now, noticed that no one can see it.

asciilifeform: except that i linked to mircea_popescu's pgp key in a post

asciilifeform: and big fat duffels of benjie from usg

asciilifeform: the troll lives on sunshine

asciilifeform: prolly more of the usual

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^

asciilifeform: ;;isup trilema.com

asciilifeform: (mainly last paragraph)

asciilifeform: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3236870273259433@naggum.net.html << obligatory

asciilifeform: wai wat

asciilifeform: it has definition of 'elf' (unix executable) format parser

asciilifeform: re: binary-types, see esp. the mirror link, for example

asciilifeform: but the whole point of a computer is that you do the 50, so you don't have to do the 50,000 over next 20 years.

asciilifeform: because... it is.

asciilifeform: and yes, it seems like 50x more work, at first glance

asciilifeform: https://github.com/frodef/binary-types << mirror

asciilifeform: http://www.cliki.net/binary-types << most famous example

asciilifeform: as it is, you have... perl.