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asciilifeform: no shit.
asciilifeform: one would, if lacking any other guidance, take 'longest chain'
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the patches produced with antecedent marks (see earlier thread) could, hypothetically, stand alone.
asciilifeform: if there was some reason to.
asciilifeform: for the eulora folks, i will point out that the toolchain in 'rotor' could just as easily build their thing
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/attachments/20150727/rotor_4c86b82236ebc4926a6ace8fb8310f37b948c8f1.tar.gz << it
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: it is in the tarball
asciilifeform: and pretending otherwise would, imho, be counterproductive
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the point i was trying to get across is that we are nowhere near a point where folks who are not #b-a regulars can really get into the true meat of the matter
asciilifeform: incidentally there is nothing shameful in writing a commentary to another fella's patch
asciilifeform: but sadly i work in uranium mine and - not so much time, energy.
asciilifeform: i would dearly love to write a lengthy treatise to the ml on every single occasion
asciilifeform: srsly context was in the log. and the first time anybody asked, i linked to it.
asciilifeform: will let ben_vulpes do it.
asciilifeform: since ben_vulpes is unhappy with this pattern, the next time ~every~ therealbitcoin node grinds to a halt on account of some shitgnomery, i won't be staying up at 3am releasing a patch.
asciilifeform: and had to patch again, rebuild.
asciilifeform: folks who somehow thought that the ml has meaning outside of #b-a, and happened to show up and read ml in precisely the wrong three minutes - may have scratched their head in frustration
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: folks who were reading the fucking log, had zero problems.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the funny part isn't that folks didn't go straight there, but that 'here is a pill against your headaches from last month+.' '.....'
asciilifeform: 'srsly, how hard to build reactor! dig some shit out of the ground, rearrange it a bit'
asciilifeform: 'any other' only works like this if you're mircea_popescu
asciilifeform: mno.
asciilifeform: just for the asking.
asciilifeform: except that this 'gurl' can be in everyone's bed
asciilifeform: 'enjoy this dildo, but it has some splinters.' 'mmm, good, but oww' 'here's one with no splinters, laquered' '..... ow'
asciilifeform: where's that 'sanity dogma' piece by mircea_popescu
asciilifeform head-desks
asciilifeform: (see the adelberger thread)
asciilifeform: intellectual ghetto cuts both ways.
asciilifeform: !up onlooker
asciilifeform: i.e. what sort of ideas do you suppose are hidden from you by copyrasty
asciilifeform: onlooker: i for one would like to know what you had in mind
asciilifeform: or did you have something else in mind.
asciilifeform: your local university library, too
asciilifeform: onlooker: yearz of ideaz, 100% gratis
asciilifeform: onlooker: log.bitcoin-assets.com
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DvCZ5HjbhI
asciilifeform: obligatory:
asciilifeform: (and other related)
asciilifeform: i'll have you know that at my university they play (on symphonic orchestra, yes!).... 'super mario.'
asciilifeform: ugh
asciilifeform: american symphonics are on par with the rest of third world
asciilifeform: what was wrong with it?
asciilifeform: never seen the horse with own eyes, and don't expect to live to.
asciilifeform: if it were mozart - i would see the other perspective, yes
asciilifeform: we aren't getting mozart for the bargain, no
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: thing is, you gotta contend with the fact that to many folks, 'copyright' ~means~ britney and microshit
asciilifeform: the sensory bubbles in which u.s. folk walk around in at public places are astonishingly fine
asciilifeform: i can sit in a restaurant in dc with pet and loudly consider 'let's bring back hitler and make him 300 metres tall and feed him prime jew rib' and no one notices
asciilifeform: surprised they paid attention!
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu and the 4 other mircea_popescus are watching the good shit, while from my perch it looks like the entire western culture went poof
asciilifeform: for all i know, this happened already long ago
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-08-2015#1231861 << this is doomed to come back at any rate. i.e. how mozart et al played. ☝︎
asciilifeform: 'what, my dog ate your baby? fuck your baby'
asciilifeform: except that it was done by the darlings of the lizards
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: could've sworn this was in the logz
asciilifeform: pray tell, how
asciilifeform: he is 'participating' in politics ?
asciilifeform: onlooker: there's a fella who's been sitting in front of the u.s. 'white house' since 1982.
asciilifeform: what, precisely, is ^that^ good for ?!
asciilifeform: onlooker: 'participate' ?!!!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'textbooks' in this case being - once you reject the outright drivel and pediwikia printouts - dour and very terse, encyclopaedic overview of the basic maths, typically
asciilifeform: and ~still~ had even chances of blowing own head off
asciilifeform: yet virtually anyone who has ever done it, had to saw open six different existing incarnations and study
asciilifeform: and rsa is ~much~ simpler than, e.g., bitcoin.
asciilifeform: if you think that you can do it from a textbook, think again.
asciilifeform: onlooker: consider, for instance, the predicament of somebody trying to correctly implement plain old rsa algo.
asciilifeform: ^
asciilifeform: onlooker: 'math' as this mythological 'sword in the stone' that 'anyone!!!111!!' can just pick up and use, is unfortunately a fiction
asciilifeform: both 'kingdom animalia', sure
asciilifeform: one is people and the other is cockroaches
asciilifeform: yes, difference. (though i appreciate knuth's choice)
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: between the chore of shoveling '98 spam and the chore of answering mail from other maths folks ?
asciilifeform: just to the chore of interacting with people
asciilifeform: '89 iirc but not related to spam
asciilifeform: ('98, let's say specifically)
asciilifeform: it is a thing that barely exists outside of the chore of shoveling spamola
asciilifeform: consider a circa-1990s email box
asciilifeform: the 'gurl with 1000 beta' is pretty clear, though it is a case of '1,2,3,infinity'
asciilifeform: the 'bitcoin gives voice'
asciilifeform perhaps lacks the lsd to follow this thread
asciilifeform: wai wut ?!
asciilifeform: like rhinoceros
asciilifeform: and mircea_popescu has a much thicker pedagogic skin to begin with, i dare say
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=19-07-2014#761497 << that one ☝︎
asciilifeform: BUT PROF HOW DO YOU DO IT
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm getting flashbacks now of my number theory lecture, where we had that gurl
asciilifeform: (this is a thin book, 1980s, inexpensive)
asciilifeform: write, build some simple programs
asciilifeform: just to get a feel of what it is like
asciilifeform: n6: please consider reading kernighan and pike's 'the unix programming environment'
asciilifeform: n6: trying to get hand-fed through this gnarly and unpleasant process will be frustrating both to you and to others
asciilifeform: n6: you will have to think and study on your own for a while.
asciilifeform: n6: since nobody else is standing up to do it, i will tell you the bad news: it appears that you are not yet ready for a source-based linux system
asciilifeform: i must've missed it
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: unrelated, when did anyone suddenly open a kindergarten in here ?
asciilifeform: 'cause my first thought was byron
asciilifeform: french?
asciilifeform: keeping fella's hands out of my arse != 'choosing careers for'
asciilifeform: (yes, the bits are ~mine~, they are on my disk)