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kakobrekla: there were to be two machines connected with serial cable < heh i have such setup with a buffer on the cable
mircea_popescu: so, me you and stan have to split a buck. i go : fuck stan, give me 50 cents i'll sign with you.
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda reminded of the jews on toilet joke. "is this work ?"
ben_vulpes: cazalla: i was derping with a colleague about btc payment processing recently. the topic: how to ensure the payment processor (he who tells the taco-delivery mechanism to release tacos) gets paid?
asciilifeform: i asked my father as a boy
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes cause normally i'm like, oh, logs, fancy that. but past few days it's been... omfg help me.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, im sure that's not the case, i never cut solid copper anythings.
mircea_popescu: the disadvantage of productivity is that it's 5am and the log is closing in on 1k lines. and yest it was nearly 3k. and jesus god it's a lot harder to go through when it's not mostly my own lines! i had no idea!
mod6: asciilifeform: i like the idea of a cypherpunk-esq mailing list to propagate patches from a common release.
ben_vulpes: i think then this discussion is settled.
mircea_popescu: more like utf-8 i thought
asciilifeform: comes from, as i understand, 'xml' and other pseudo-humanreadable abominations
mircea_popescu: i dunno what the hatred of ascii is from anyway.
undata: I yield the balance of my time, haha
decimation: asciilifeform: right, I envision it more as the collected correspondence of gentlemen scholars, rather than a profitable venture
mircea_popescu: so if version x is signed by people i know and version y is signed by people i don't know, x is official and fu.
undata: asciilifeform: explain; I'll listen.
undata: asciilifeform: I'm saying it can provide the input to your envisioned system
asciilifeform: and do all the linux contributors sign? i do not recall this being required
decimation: but I know they discuss important patches on the kernel list
undata: mircea_popescu: I use the same for code review, even if it's a matter of emailing myself
asciilifeform: i was hoping to rationally convince people that the totality of the project ought to be the mailing list, the totality of the mailing list ought to consist of gpg-signed ascii text, and that this includes patch sets - which, collectively, add up to the product.
decimation: I think people are complaining more aboug github than git
undata: that makes more sense. In that case yes, I could see a very simple tool for auditing, signing, then releasing
asciilifeform: use git for private dildonic pleasure. or for playing with friends. i do. ☟︎
asciilifeform: but i - won't.
asciilifeform: i don't actually care if he signs via hook to his toilet flush lever
asciilifeform: can i 'cat' it to my line printer?
undata: I could show you every bit in my git db easily
undata: I don't see why that's a requirement, but ok
undata: then I'm off base; what were you saying?
mircea_popescu: i don't think you two are discussing the same discussion.
undata: I've done extensive work with it
decimation: I suspect git or whatever could be hooked to operate on such patches
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> forsaking version control systems entirely! << i cannot conscience this.
kakobrekla: i guess my guess is better than sexygingers
kakobrekla: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform: the non-classical version strings are interesting << the first time i said ppl alter their strings ppl hgere were "oh, mp is just making shit up to win an internet argument" < i can see how someone running v0.9 would set the string to 'ducky duck' but not v0.1.
mircea_popescu: (nobody actually said it, but I FELT IT!!!)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: the non-classical version strings are interesting << the first time i said ppl alter their strings ppl hgere were "oh, mp is just making shit up to win an internet argument"
asciilifeform: it's intended to process strings << incidentally - 'SNOBOL'. i invite folks to read about it. the idea of dedicated 'string processing' languages is rather old, and has not really gone anywhere 'snobol' hadn't gone.
decimation: I already did :)
mircea_popescu: oh i see. meh. prolly jurov should just reg it to mess with people.
decimation: I guess php has had a 'trial by fire' as the lingua franca of web devel
kakobrekla: except not < i think you are the most common in bash say last 5 pages
decimation: I guess I thought that anything written in php was exploited to death
asciilifeform: what, didja think i actually did work on it
decimation: yeah I guess hosting static text is cheap
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undata: why wouldn't I expect Americans to choose their own Putin
undata: BingoBoingo: I'll read this but to continue, the Russians sought Putin's strong voice after their collapse.
undata: nah, I'm already on the list.
BingoBoingo: undata: Would you prefer I find the ISIS hosted version, they prolly have one...
undata: I'll check it out.
thestringpuller: i have the pdf
undata: and I think the military industrial complex will provide that voice for them
BingoBoingo: undata: I'm just suggesting datacenter that can't be disconnected from a safe distance...
undata: I think American's are cowardly enough that Dallas won't have to be taken.
undata: I'll listen to the other view; go ahead
decimation: I'm not interested in anarchy, but sometimes anarchy is interested in you...
undata: but I highly doubt any of you are going to like what follows if it falls
undata: you guys are a bit wishful sometimes; I share the sentiment towards the us govt
undata: I don't think the head-body metaphor applies here
decimation: who's control? I have no doubt that off-continent enemies will be taken seriously, but who's orders are they going to follow? Texas?
decimation: asciilifeform: I think supermicro makes them too
BingoBoingo: Seems so, but I'll look a few years older and he same seems to hold
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'll be looking to grow my farm once qntra takes off
asciilifeform: chinese << forget chinese. nothing i - a peasant - so much as breathed on - will ever be crowned 'eal'.
decimation: BingoBoingo: I'm sure there are still vaxes running somewhere
decimation: As I understand, the 'common criteria' eal levels are going away, in favor of even less objective scam-criteria
decimation: I'm not sure how any c-machine can really be 'formally verified'
asciilifeform: i meant, the game in general.
asciilifeform: yes i get that part - the only thing
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: By refering to Kimbrel as Sirian I mean as in from the Wasp, bowlegged with inhuman movements. Only way to describe the fucker.
decimation: I understand the general concept, but there are many subtle rules and concepts
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I'd suggest playing the part of a Nationals or Baltimore Orioles fan next year, but given the proximity to District 1, dunno how you feel about anal probing
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I'm that way with handegg and soccer
asciilifeform: i had the rules of, e.g., baseball, explained to me - on more than one occasion - and promptly forgot the next day.
asciilifeform: ^ unique among just about all subjects, this remains 'greek to me' regardless of what i read.
BingoBoingo: Ah, I guess for context... back in 2010 Lincecum was called the "Freak" for seeming unnaturaly better than any other starting pitcher, but since then... He has more than regressed to mean...
BingoBoingo: That's why I find it betable
asciilifeform: stays in - in the sense that not once have i ever seen any reason to give a damn about it
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I can report here on it so copyrasta containment not that strong yet
Adlai: did my gif get through earlier? https://i.imgur.com/srO11QN.gif <-- this may be the moment when i finally realized the importance of natural selection
BingoBoingo: I dunno about Yall, but I am watching Silicon Valley getting fucked with a frozen turd wrought of their own ethical lapses.
asciilifeform: (yes i get that the number is '0' for most of the above list)
thickasthieves: i still have all my bo cards, my brother collected ken griffer
BingoBoingo: I still do somewhere, maybe
thickasthieves: i had a lot of his baseball cards once
thickasthieves: i think i might be same age as mp
thickasthieves: all i ask for is Bo Jackson comeback
BingoBoingo: thickasthieves: All I ask for in life is to see Giancarlo Stanton with a better team. Any team oher than the Marlins will do.
thickasthieves: i watched every single red sox game for a couple seasons when pedro was the shit, then never watched again
kakobrekla: well i can see how mp would argue that one as yes
cazalla: nfi, i have not watched/played since i was a kid
BingoBoingo: cazalla: I thought league was realest rugby???
cazalla: joecool, i pray our aboriginals don't find this out or they might introduce TSA here
joecool: <cazalla> i think that was phased out mid 90s decimation < not in planes
cazalla: actually, i just checked, phase out began 2000 and ended 2002.. good sniff that
decimation: I guess the ban didn't go into full effect in the us until 96
BingoBoingo: For the hell of it I may or may not have driven a tank of leaded gas winter of 2006...