asciilifeform: this one's a '3-pipe case', in the words of sherlock holms

asciilifeform looks forward to reading

asciilifeform: gonna take a while, this sawing

asciilifeform: jurov: now i have to solve the problem. like i solved others before. but this one's gonna take some time, it isn't a nice clean shot in the head, but more of a slow isis beheading

asciilifeform: !up cryptonaut420

asciilifeform: fuck that.

asciilifeform: now you have to CARE ABOUT THE INSIDES ☟︎

asciilifeform: jurov: how about line endings

asciilifeform: the pgp signature thing is fucktarded, can't believe for how long we've put up with it

asciilifeform: jurov: i get to checksum a patch by patch | sha512sum or basta.

asciilifeform: not without a much better reason than 'pgp breathes through its mouth'

asciilifeform: i ain't doing it.

asciilifeform: if you want to break this, you get 100x the code and the gnomes.

asciilifeform: can treat as stream

asciilifeform: unix utils work as depicted in, e.g., vdiff.sh, deadly-simple, BECAUSE file is a solid abstraction

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: (not separate fiber, mind you, but may as well.)

asciilifeform: all modern phone networks actually do this.

asciilifeform: now you can't sha512sum on the file, have to put it through a cutter

asciilifeform: because what you end up with is two files who are somehow trying to sit in one chair

asciilifeform: because motherfucking unix philosophy.

asciilifeform: because a file is unitary.

asciilifeform: because it doesn't belong in-band. ☟︎

asciilifeform: how about a big fat No.

asciilifeform: with 'escaped dashes', the whole shit soup?

asciilifeform: of the doc!!?!??!!

asciilifeform: because FUCKTARDED

asciilifeform: jurov: no mutilations.

asciilifeform: jurov: NO

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178517 ☝︎

asciilifeform: same

asciilifeform: (file hash)

asciilifeform: and one can't get a meaningful hash out of a sig

asciilifeform: this is a place we end up in because pgp is retarded

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mno, for every patch and every sig ever made.

asciilifeform: it is possible if one does something jurovish and requires, e.g., sigs to include what they are sigs for in the filename or the like

asciilifeform: because no other state.

asciilifeform: because every single operation involves walking EVERY sig FOR EVERY patch

asciilifeform: it gets annoying, fast

asciilifeform currently racking brain over how to make the thing verify in better than O(N^2)

asciilifeform likes short names for frequently used machines

asciilifeform: mod6: nice script and it will do until i'm done with the actual mechanism

asciilifeform: or not. i think i got what i needed

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if not urgent, leave it up till monday night

asciilifeform: but what we really need is moar nodez on serious commercial boxes

asciilifeform: there's another but i gotta travel to a somewhat distant place to plug the bugger in

asciilifeform: 2 and 1/2

asciilifeform: same as before

asciilifeform: meanwhile my nodez are running hotter than ever

asciilifeform: filipino

asciilifeform: answer 'some tard'

asciilifeform: idk, asked 'who was this'

asciilifeform: finally mustered the balls to pull the trigger

asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3h424p/why_is_bitcoin_forking << some tard

asciilifeform: 'Congratulations Gavin and Mike on completing the patch to support larger block sizes. Although we all have ideological disagreements from time to time, two fundamental values of the Bitcoin community are freedom of choice and transparency of communication. Your work represents a big step in returning the power over Bitcoin's future back to the community where it belongs.' << l0l!!

asciilifeform: hm.

asciilifeform: dun think i've seen it before

asciilifeform: ^ hearn unzips and begins

asciilifeform: and https://medium.com/@octskyward/why-is-bitcoin-forking-d647312d22c1

asciilifeform: http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2015-August/010235.html

asciilifeform: meanwhile, from the loltrons,

asciilifeform: which entails doing exactly, word for word, what i did to make 'orchestra'

asciilifeform: ideally someone who isn't me has also verified the antecedents

asciilifeform: (with the proviso that he has read, grasped, each)

asciilifeform: can submit sigs for them

asciilifeform: then everyone who did what mod6 did and verified that the universe of patches in 'orchestra' is actually identical to the previously published set but for the antecedent hashes,

asciilifeform: (pairwise)

asciilifeform: patch must be accompanied with sig

asciilifeform: sig can be for existing patch in the list

asciilifeform: mod6: what i have in mind is that this ends up being a box where you can drop in a sig (l1 !) and, optionally, one or more patches

asciilifeform: logical.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238664 << wai wat, i thought mircea_popescu's hobby was to pick this wildlife up from the streets and reformat it ☝︎

asciilifeform: and is also in the log somewhere.

asciilifeform: the latter is included in the latest ml post

asciilifeform: the basic unit of life in 'v' (apparatus) is the vdiff (output of vdiff.sh)

asciilifeform: so that's what i'm writing.

asciilifeform: folks were demanding a thing which you can ask 'find me the longest chain signed by mod6' etc

asciilifeform: approximately.

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238649 << detached sig, absolutely yes. posted as separate email each - absolutely fucking not ☝︎

asciilifeform: it is so rare to meet with folks who aren't howlingly retarded.

asciilifeform: not a bad www though.

asciilifeform: https://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2012/06/28/area-51 << lulzy

asciilifeform: i just love these gloriously educated folks who carry on pretending we don't exist.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^

asciilifeform: https://rjlipton.wordpress.com/2015/08/14/cryptography-and-quicksand << lulzies

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238595 << when boiling the proverbial frog, when it gets cooked enough you can just turn up the heat to whatever. srsly, they included a keylogger and admitted to it. why should they not also rape you in every other possible hole, and drill new ones as desired ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238564 << when i get to shoot the alarm clock. and never buy a new one. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238532 << what i'd like to know is what became of the famous yanomamo tribe. last i heard, they traded a load of animal skins for a crate of shotguns, and that was the last anybody heard of'em.. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238536 << maybe because it's actually 195.211.154.159 ? ☝︎☟︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238525 << he might have been thinking of something else, not intelligence, possibly this: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=08-07-2015#1193609 ☝︎☝︎

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-08-2015#1238523 << and 'unknown soldier' is what ? ☝︎

asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes where's the bot?

asciilifeform: gcd==519691042937; Andrew Orr <andrew@andreworr.ca>

asciilifeform: http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/D9C5494A7B03BBA6E8699AF3EBACA1A2E3ED77906921EB829571A5AEF2623FBC ☟︎

asciilifeform: yes, just like it.

asciilifeform: it is the other items on the menu which are experimental, high-tech oddities, like particle accelerator.

asciilifeform: fefeleaga is sop

asciilifeform: and 'The impulse to cling to youth at all costs, to attempt to preserve your sexual attraction, to see even in middle age a future for yourself and not merely for your children, is a thing of recent growth and has only precariously established itself. It will probably disappear again when our standard of living drops and our birth-rate rises.'

asciilifeform: see mr.o, 'The great mass of human beings are not acutely selfish. After the age of about thirty they almost abandon the sense of being individuals at all — and live chiefly for others, or are simply smothered under drudgery. But there is also the minority of gifted, willful people who are determined to live their own lives to the end'