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asciilifeform: at any rate, it pretty much has to be a 'buildroot' script in the end. so as everything ends up in a ro-mountable flash image.
the_scourge: asciilifeform: if you're implying it's not lightweight, only systemd and the kernel are installed off the bat. and some guys have done work on a systemdless setup
mircea_popescu: in any case purge that systemd atrocity , as a matter of principle if not necessarily practicality.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane. << quite
the_scourge: danielpbarron: nixos has a pretty good balance of minimal and predictable (even for noobs), have you considered that?
the_scourge: asciilifeform: would https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisp_in_Small_Pieces be a good place to start with such excercises?
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: eventual goal, i dare say, is a fully-automated reflasher that drops in something sane.
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: this gives you a rather heavyweight linux - with systemd, even.
the_scourge: is perl a pretty good example of what you mean?
asciilifeform: writing a (demented but functional) c compiler and (very old-fashioned, to the point of braindamage) lisp interp. used to be standard homework assignments
asciilifeform: the tell-tale symptom of a programming language that does far too much behind the scenes is when its users seldom, if ever, study the implementation
the_scourge: although a few things came up when i started looking into it that turned me off haskell
danielpbarron: here's a rough draft of pogo instructions: http://danielpbarron.com/pogo-howto.txt / criticisms welcomed!
asciilifeform: just about everything pushed as 'pure functional' (haskell, standard ml, etc.) to a large extent operate via pattern matching
asciilifeform: and even a built-in prolog!
the_scourge wonders if a 'pattern matching' language could even be a functional language
asciilifeform not a fan of 'pattern matching' languages a la prolog where the operator has no possible way of having the faintest clue what an operation will cost
asciilifeform: did not find it interesting enough to bother with a writeup.
the_scourge: did you do a writeup? i've grepped for such to no avail :(
the_scourge: :( he's just on a downer!
asciilifeform: the_scourge: there was, at least in the past, a 'google groups' thing for it.
the_scourge: the team working for me has maybe a dozen and then a massive team in manila that another contractor manages. it's ... depressing
the_scourge has been desperately trying to avoid learning scheme/Qi for years, fearing never being able to hold a 'productive' contract again
the_scourge: um if we had no way to secure comms on the wild internet, where layers 1-4 can be listened to by demotists (i wouldn't mind if it was a monarch),
the_scourge: uh that's a wireless chip? i thought we're talking about cpu. i.e. mips
mircea_popescu: exactly that. a pointed disdain of any rule and regulation not gpg signed as so much crud.
mircea_popescu: writing a proper wifi thing for the new world is not on this year's plate.
BingoBoingo: * asciilifeform not thrilled with the wireless thing, but it seems to be inescapable in small embedded crapatrons << There's probably a role somewhere for a kind of node with it. Plugged in at "Free Wifi" coffee shop or library. connects to open network, changes MAC address when booted from network. Has script to handled shrink wrap license pages when encountered.
asciilifeform: node is not a reactor, if thing sits on bus and listens for doomsday signal from enemy, it'll do what?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what happens if you short the antenna of a wifi device ?
asciilifeform: ^ 32MB. and fuck, that ought to be enough for a bitcoin node
assbot: VoCore | A coin-sized Linux computer with wifi ... ( http://bit.ly/1DnPbMx )
asciilifeform: http://vocore.io/wiki/index << wants to be a node.
asciilifeform was buying lightbulbs not long ago, and did a double-take when saw a line of specifically 'retro' bulbs, claiming to be 'precisely like those of edison's time' - and at least were genuine in costing 10x what one normally expects, and putting out 1/5th the light
mircea_popescu: a ok
cazalla: mircea_popescu, it's old as in there was a photo of the psu dump out last year and it was filmed last year but new as in full clip released today
mircea_popescu: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green" << as it should be. if i recall correctly the russian name is "labour & light"
cazalla: asciilifeform, prob the real owner and it's a staff member being interviewed instead
assbot: Logged on 15-10-2014 17:38:27; assbot: Logged on 30-08-2014 16:11:44; asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: re: 'coinbase insurance' post - little story. recently i had occasion to rent a box at a bank (storage of various paperwork for firm.) the contract was a hilarious read. bank only insures a box for up to 25k usd. and specifically excludes damage from robbery, fire, water... virtually anything.
asciilifeform: 'Keeping gold in a safe deposit box is money laundering carrying up to 25 years in prison.' << fiction. (though 'deposit boxes' remain a hilarious scam. see old thread, http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=15-10-2014#875487 ) ☝︎
assbot: » Economist: New Bill Turns TSA Into Tax Police Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ... ( http://bit.ly/1DOlrGA )
assbot: Life Inside a Secret Chinese Bitcoin Mine - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1DOjMRq )
assbot: Tour Of A Chinese Bitcoin Mine | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1zXzLiz )
cazalla: http://qntra.net/2015/02/tour-of-a-chinese-bitcoin-mine/
asciilifeform: recall how sync is from one peer at a time
asciilifeform: but a generic x86.
asciilifeform: recall, this wasn't a pogo
assbot: Trust relationship from user danielpbarron to user the_scourge: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 2 via 2 connections. | http://w.b-a.link/trust/danielpbarron/the_scourge | http://w.b-a.link/user/the_scourge
danielpbarron: ok and now it's getting more than 500 at a time connected directly to eachother.. wtf
danielpbarron: except it's a dirty hack, and the pogo crashes anyway
assbot: 6 results for '"orphanage burner"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=%22orphanage+burner%22
danielpbarron: how can a mom get arrested for kidnapping her own son? was the dad not in on it or something?
asciilifeform: punkman: odd. i know of no car recent enough to come with a remote button, that doesn't beep/flash when locked/unlocked
punkman: it's a "secure" messaging app
trinque: even seven figure processing accounts I've seen take days to hit a bank account, or at least the next day
punkman: on that note, here is a gem https://ensafer.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/bg-app-showcase-adjusted.jpg
trinque: +asciilifeform | the folks who count (tm) get it immediately << dunno that this is so, isn't "settlement" a thing to allow for reversals, etc?
asciilifeform: punkman: flashlight... was a case study of "innovation" and "green" << the meat puppets responsible should be condemned to spend the rest of their days in oubliette, with only nyt to read, lit only by that flashlight.
trinque: asciilifeform: even that's more a temporary loan right?
punkman: i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge << I once took a design class where this was a case study of "innovation" and "green"
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: engine where the piston was really just a magnet-bearing shuttle zipping back and forth through coils << i once saw a flashlight based on this principle. a real bitch to charge - much time and sore muscle spent in changing direction. but this would work beautifully for a liquid-piston stirling engine (see last night's thread).
asciilifeform: and dollars to doughnuts, some forgotten government office somewhere is still renting a modem.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: phun phact: there are still a few hundred thousand idiots renting landline handsets in usa from lucent (who inherited that subdivision)
danielpbarron: weird, it hung up for a few minutes on block 3000
mircea_popescu: "[Note: It is interesting to notice that Mr Kennedy, USA Ambassador in London, remarked on his return to New York in October 1940 that as a result of the war "democracy is finished". By "democracy", of course, he meant private capitalism. (Author's footnote.)]"
mircea_popescu: either way, the only thing a functioning market can expect is attack, either by government agencies masquerading as companies, or else by government agencies actually admitting their government affiliation.
mircea_popescu: net result ? a frail, broken, centralized item to take place of the vibrant original and slowly decay. it's "just as good',
mircea_popescu: that's right, i come from a country where you USED to have to be cool to be able to fuck most of the starlets on tv (prhaps with the show playing in the background, if so inclined). nowadays any schmuck with a coupla bitcoin can do it.
mircea_popescu: obviously nothing's wrong with the people, but plenty's wrong wit hthe "present values" equation, seeing how in 1985 ie 30 years ago it made perfect sense to spend a week and cut out pipes and whatnot to save "the equivalent of 40 euros".
mircea_popescu: expensive enough to get people to where they'd root for copies of teh hacker bible, and then build a modem out of repurposed materials by hand.
mircea_popescu: so this article discusses the famous ccc modem. at the time, germans being insane as today, it was illegal to own a modem, and you had to rent the state company ones, which were incredibly expensive.
mircea_popescu: it's as if there's a race of humans that is really, REALLY bad at anything they do.
mircea_popescu: twisty's is a fine example : how to make atrociously bad porn out of ingredients found commonly in any porn studio.
mircea_popescu: come to think about it : http://girls.twistys.com/preview/totm/12-2014/p01/p/13.jpg << there's a whoile brand of this sort of idiot in ther wild.
mircea_popescu: ever since the flaming idiots of get a freelancer bought it, it's seriously improved
mircea_popescu: "im a chewing gum aeropropulsion engineer."
mircea_popescu: he is now somehow a "software engineer" - heck, if randi could do it ?
mircea_popescu: Now this is some serious investigative journalism. I even learned a few things!
mod6: this is what i need every morning. a good dose of solid lulz.
mircea_popescu: punkman: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/59/CCCamp_2007_Datenklo.jpg << so basically, the only reason these adolescent boys have gathered there is to have a good pretext for not washing.
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell phillipsjk: Is html allowed in comments on your blog? << some limited html. blockquote, a and i dun recall what else.
fluffypony: "Mr. McCaleb also happened to be one of the world’s foremost cryptographers, arguably in a class with Alan Turing, the father of artificial intelligence and modern computing."
punkman: geniuses are $60k a year, can't give him billion bezzlars
kakobrekla: snapchat billions, gnupg a few k.
kakobrekla: a whole 50k
punkman: "There’s an increasing number of farmers placing greater value on acquiring older simpler machines that don’t require a computer to fix."
cazalla: phillipsjk, how about.. you must pick a password between 4-8 characters, may not contain symbols or capitalisation
punkman: http://litbimg.rightinthebox.com/desc_image/201407/gkdecb1405397886162.jpg that's a pretty small phone
phillipsjk: I see a newbie got a "page topper" in Deathandtaxes's thread. (I was totally going to post a link) :)
phillipsjk: 6:35: "..For example..Mt.Gox.. I have a bad feeling about them"
phillipsjk: "Tom Williams" paid people half their Bitcoin and disappeared. Mybitocin.com had a private registration is some tropical island country.
mircea_popescu: i wish i could remember the idiot's name, he was a reddit star for a season or two.
mircea_popescu: the last episode of that thing figures prominently some hot shot kid that made a totally innovative super-great exchange
phillipsjk: no that is a different person.
mircea_popescu: is this the first tihng that pulled a runner ?
phillipsjk: "Consider the alternative of mybitcoin.com. It is a client portable to any web browser. You could keep the account/password in your head instead of on a stick. If you want to transact with another mybitcoin account the transaction is immediate too."
phillipsjk: I mentioned in PM that I assume the year 2010 refers to "mybitcoin" (found mention of it in a forum post Aug 17, 2010)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, i think one could scarcely have better political education than a tour of the warsaw pact in the late 80s.
phillipsjk: good point. Gavin's proposal is just that: a proposal.
mircea_popescu: phillipsjk i am not seriously lowering the discourse to gavin's insanities. a matter of principle is being discussed there, not the irrelevant gargle of whatever derp.