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thestringpuller: mod6: i actually had a leagal drink for the billinium <<< i was just growing pubes. now I don't feel quite so old.
mod6: i actually had a leagal drink for the billinium
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "there's no point getting in the wot, i have real world friends" << WoT isn't Facebook...*sigh*
mircea_popescu: similarly of, "i have no interest signing other people's code"
mircea_popescu: and this is a cognate of "there's no point getting in the wot, i have real world friends"
asciilifeform: if i recall, that was, that none of these folks have much incentive to speak up re: process
mircea_popescu: i don't see how a case can be different from any other in a system where "one can make any declaration"
nubbins`: er yeah, i don't get the same shasum as you at all
mircea_popescu: i guess best practice, "1st check deed signature, then hash to verify deed".
mircea_popescu: i think always trailing comma, but anyway, your 1st sha is off ?
mircea_popescu: decimation i think he omitted the comma after.
TheNewDeal: I feel ya, I would like to learn as well. Seems like an incredibly useful tool
nubbins`: TheNewDeal i'm just trying to verify one of these things but it's hard if i don't know the process
decimation: asciilifeform: I bet you had alot of sympathy for harrison
assbot: Logged on 28-10-2014 02:16:07; mircea_popescu: "you have been raped. i understand this can be frustrationg as this is usually a sign that you are in fact a slut."
Duffer1: i can imagine mp lol
mircea_popescu: this is beneficial tho, i had some good lolz reading the support tickets earlier in logs
TheNewDeal: before I can even think it
mircea_popescu: i guess.
decimation: I was listening to this podcast: http://www.theamphour.com/201-cheap-respins-and-a-time-machine-multiscience-mercenary-marketplace/ << the guy from the satellite company said he had to drive his small sats to the shake table
mircea_popescu: i knew mp would never pay on that berkshire bet.
asciilifeform: i am swimming in 'solved problems' that i - in particular - cannot access the solutions to.
BingoBoingo: For a sufficiently exorbitant price I may be willing to serve as courier within CONUS.
asciilifeform: i know full well that it's a solved problem.
asciilifeform: i will certainly ask for it...
asciilifeform: as things are now, i expect that it will be brought to my 'peine forte et dure.'
Duffer1: no doubt, sorry i've only followed a few lines of the convo :P
asciilifeform: also have to appreciate the hdd. if it croaks, an equivalent unit will not actually make the machine go. os can only be installed from tape. i own neither the tape deck nor the tape.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dunno, epoxy paste ?
mircea_popescu: i guess this is a point
asciilifeform: it's been a few years since i asked.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: good question! answer: packing it in such a way as to guarantee safe shipping would be prohibitively expensive. the man i bought it from, david schmidt (last symbolics employee) refuses to ship his remaining stock, after a multitude of DOAs.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tbh i always wondered about the "shipping economically" part. surely 100lbs worth of various things have been shipped before, even in the us ?
undata: who fucking knows; it's like anything with humans. we'll do it, I know that for sure.
asciilifeform: running like clockwork, 12 years later << so wat. i've a symbolics 3620 'running like clockwork' 28 years later.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> who in his right mind would consider 'apple', for instance, if microshit did not exist << i don't run a windows machine. for me ms might as well not exist. however, i did get apple powered tablet to check out their game marketplace.
asciilifeform: that is, a deliberately archaic variant that brings back all the dark age stereotypes (slow, no iteration constructs, poor i/o)
decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I remember rejecting perl; finding pythong as the best alternative
asciilifeform: the ruby by yukihiro 'i half-learned common lisp, i confess' matsumoto ?
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski: ;;later tell DanielKrawisz Looking forward to seeing you rationalize this gem <<< i dunno, it's like the guy went off the deep end past coupla weeks.
asciilifeform: oop as straightjacked (i.e. other than clos) - yes.
decimation: asciilifeform: I get the feeling that oop is sick at a metaphysical level
mircea_popescu: Adlai i still got the impression it was discussed before. maybe im just confused, maybe assbot was down right then, dunno.
mircea_popescu: i'm never going to catch up to this log, am i.
Adlai: mircea_popescu: actually not in the logs, unless anybody paid attention when i brought it up :)
asciilifeform: i've yet to meet a 'reinventor' of clos who actually understood all of clos
mircea_popescu: i guess a fairer evaluation is to say oop got the blessing of suck, the way www did.
mircea_popescu: undata as actually encountered, pretty much. asciilifeform i guess so.
undata: I'll read it though.
undata: Adlai: I'd rather just have my types over here, and functions over there which use them
mircea_popescu: i think oop is generally despised here.
undata: should I bother?
undata: Adlai: I am already bigoted against OOP
mircea_popescu: "you have been raped. i understand this can be frustrationg as this is usually a sign that you are in fact a slut."
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: well, its not hard to beat "hi you have incoming ddos, I understand this can be frustrating as this type of attack is usually a sign that your droplet has been compromised" <<< ahahaha wut ?
undata: I'm blessed to be among perfect programmers.
asciilifeform: whenever someone says 'immutability', i wish i could replace his ram with antifuse rom.
decimation: yeah, I don't get how that helps
undata: thestringpuller: the only way I can tolerate python is by considering it "functional" in the weak sense
mircea_popescu: which... whatever, when i start fucking boys i might care.
Adlai: a reddit infested with c.l.l trolls would be interesting... i hope they'd bring along the markov chain idiocy spammers too
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually, the funny part - it sorta did. graham and his 'arc' (which was actually a spray paint over, if i recall, mzscheme)
Adlai: the gradient of idiocy is far more nuanced, although i guess our dead president is anchoring one end of it
thestringpuller: I don't like it when mircea_popescu yells.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform eh i don't even agree. fuck all this subtlety of amuk idiocy. a character, its encoding, the representation thereof and its numeric value are all THE SAME THING. forever.
decimation: I guess it's not worth worrying about until there's an uptake in deedbot usage
decimation: well, I was thinking about undata's problem
decimation: I have a question about deedbot
asciilifeform: in my studies, i'm particularly interested in the 'suck' that no one even notices any more.
decimation: I think most folk use UTF8
decimation: I think you had that rant a few months ago on that topic
decimation: I see.
jurov: asciilifeform << our thread last night << now i wonder why nobody's reusing ascii control characters (C0)
punkman: I got a coin in the works btw
pete_dushenski: anyways, i'll look in to it :)
asciilifeform: jurov: i was not aware what various email clients do to text/plain <<<<< mircea_popescu << our thread last night.
kakobrekla: <cazalla> punkman, i thought so. i ask because this is the response i got when asking someone i'm looking at doing a story on "We believe there are a number of safe ways the keys can be generated by offline PCs, but do not disclose exact method(s) chosen for obvious reasons." < if its a bad implementation, you in fact increase attack surface even further
ben_vulpes: but as i said, clobbering the back-button when reading hyperlinked documents is...
jurov: sugh, this is worse than obola.. i was not aware what various email clients do to text/plain
cazalla: punkman, i thought so. i ask because this is the response i got when asking someone i'm looking at doing a story on "We believe there are a number of safe ways the keys can be generated by offline PCs, but do not disclose exact method(s) chosen for obvious reasons."
pete_dushenski: why would i do that?
BingoBoingo: Adlai: I'm working on a write up atm on those
PeterL: mircea_popescu: rss thing ... I am working on it, it is almost ready, I think, just need to work out a few bugs and clean up my code some
cazalla: ben_vulpes: didja comment on their blorg? <<< i'll give em time to respond via email first
pete_dushenski: i understood los_pantalones as saying that people who "ended up on .derp" were traders, not the actual fucking derps!
pete_dushenski: o! i got it now. my bad.
kakobrekla: i think theres a misunderstanding going on here.
pete_dushenski: kakobrekla i musta missed how people go from mpex to using los_pantalones for btc liquidity?
los_pantalones: pete_dushenski it's not like i'm suggesting hundreds of people come in here, just the guys who end up on .derp
los_pantalones: i try to push everyone into here, most haven't taken me up on it
los_pantalones: and luckily i get to take calls from VC looking at companies
kakobrekla: geographically i mean.
los_pantalones: company i work for, i would tell you if i were in on my company pgp but i'm using my personal here
kakobrekla: but i will not dance bananas.
kakobrekla: well, its not hard to beat "hi you have incoming ddos, I understand this can be frustrating as this type of attack is usually a sign that your droplet has been compromised"
punkman: I wouldn't expect vultr to be better but who knows
mats_cd03: i loled
ben_vulpes: cazalla: what did you actually ask them? i eventually realized that the 32mb line is the nominal largest size of a p2p message.
thickasthieves: true, i'm just gonna have to read this later
thickasthieves: gawd i'm in logs purgatory