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kakobrekla: only matters if you got a big one
BingoBoingo: Just imagine a palm sized box with rs-232 and the entire 1980's inside
BingoBoingo: For some tasks bus size isn't such a big deal.
asciilifeform: why BingoBoingo wants a GHz 8bit cpu?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i haven't / don't intend to because a) anyone who can grasp the abstraction already knows it ; b) anyone likely to benefit from the description probably can't read.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, BingoBoingo, cazalla, other writery folks: anybody up for writing a basic likbez for the 'unified theory' of amplification attack as it applies not only to boring ddos but to gavincoin and in general to any system where some bozo can inflict cost C on you by spending c where c < C ☟︎
BingoBoingo: jurov: Commenting out that section of main.cpp you highlighted and making a junk public alert key turned into a build of 0.8.6 that's been running fine for about 20 hours nao
mircea_popescu: like a wife with multiple personality cazalla ?
mircea_popescu buys ballgag factory shares. cleary there's a future for these.
BingoBoingo: <IHB> i can't weigh in with my opinion. i will leave up to you guys. my stomach tells me the blocksize should not be raised and if people want to do other stuff they can peg their btc to a sidechain, if that ever becomes reality. << Not an unreasonable thing. Settlement happens on the blockchain small amounts dick around on distraction chain.
IHB: i would be happy just holding my bitcoin. but only if there was a way to get all this other stuff done, you know the stuff we call bloat
IHB: i can't weigh in with my opinion. i will leave up to you guys. my stomach tells me the blocksize should not be raised and if people want to do other stuff they can peg their btc to a sidechain, if that ever becomes reality.
mircea_popescu: 2.67 gb a day extra. whatever that costs, every node is stuck with it.
BingoBoingo: IHB: And the thing is it is a one time cost to the attacker to attack by committing bloat
IHB: well, i am glad i had a reason to be confused
mircea_popescu: today it's not a particularly valuable dos attack on bitcoin because whatever, 1mb blocks.
mircea_popescu: why would it be a miner ? it is possible for anyone.
IHB: won't it cost a lot of money to do that?
mircea_popescu: first time i got a report like this, so mebbe wait and see ? mebbe your mail server's slow ?
IHB: so if we don't have the cap it is possible for a miner to load blocks up with spam? and this in turn will weaken the network?
mircea_popescu: did you use a proper email ?
BingoBoingo: I believe the 1mb limit was only put in out of fear to protect us from a potential attack. << Was explicitly put in place to make attacks by bloating the blockchain uneconomical
BingoBoingo: he recently put a btc paywall on his personal blog. << IHB been around multiple years. Since early 2013 when I finally started talking to people.
mircea_popescu: also, the paywall on trilema is a) older than bitcoin and b) older than the new york time's.
mircea_popescu: as a general rule : strike out all paragraphs that contain the pronoun "I" see what's left.
BingoBoingo: IHB: Just remember if you post a big draft for review before going up on your site, Google index's pastebins aggressively, Dpaste not so much.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is a consensus system.
mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not a democracy.,
IHB: i am posting a draft write now
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IHB: @petertoddbtc @trilema @oocBlog  @BryceWeiner @JustusRanvier  @fredwilson @balajis  In regards to scalability and the perceived threat facing the bitcoin ecosystem I am still not convinced we have a problem here. Gavin has been talking about this for a little while now and it shouldn’t surprise anyone of us that he is publicly trying to get a proposal ready so the full nodes can vote on it. 1. If 80% of the full nodes v
IHB: ok, this is still a WIP, but i want to make sure i understand
BingoBoingo: IHB, I'll give it a read through
BlueMeanie4: its starting to become clear that the whole thing was a ponzi to begin with
TheNewDeal: I think gox falsely propped it up to the previous ath, not to say anything about a possibility of return to said prices
BlueMeanie4: a federated Wot?
nanotube: <nanotube> hey, sorry for delay in reply, been busy, still busy. just to give you a quick preview, i'm thinking/working on implementing everything-signed, using a framework sort of like this: http://bitcoin-otc.com/newsite/rate.php ☟︎
danielpbarron slaps BlueMeanie4 around a bit with a large putin
asciilifeform: so they'll say, in the event they say anything, that it was all a fiction ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu also knows that they give a damn ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: For some reason the methyl group makes it more toxic to neurons in the long run << afaik no one has conclusively shown that it's the methyl rather than the sleeping-once-a-week, rotgut booze, and vd
mircea_popescu: if somebody still has a twitter account, be a kitten tweet my last @maigov to see some really embarassed romanian police.
BingoBoingo: "This dilemma is particularly strong for researchers in the areas of operating systems and networking, two areas in which Windows NT is considered to be especially weak. With DARPA project lifetimes typically in the two- or three-year range, PIs must swallow hard before agreeing to take two giant steps back in order to begin their research on a Windows NT technology base."
BingoBoingo: "For all intents and purposes, it is reasonable to assume that all of DARPA’s customers already use computers in their work. Furthermore, they have been using computers for years. They have developed their own procedures and policies that are not conveniently switched to a different operating environment at the drop of a hat. And they are all using Windows. They are all using Windows because it is the superior choice for Intel-h
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> i'll let BingoBoingo explain how one has faster blood-brain penetration than other, lipid solubility, etc. << Methyl group makes it have a greater affinity for particular subsets of norepinephrine and dopamine receptors. For some reason the methyl group makes it more toxic to neurons in the long run
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> no adderall is pretty much meth << SOrry thought you said Ritalin. Adderal is a racemic mixture of Levo and Dex amphetamines. The levo reduces the "abuse potential"
BingoBoingo: <thestringpuller> no adderall is pretty much meth << Not even a proper amphetamine
mircea_popescu: you know, somebody should do this as a service. comic strip summarizer. watch them all, pick the i dunno, 1% worth a chuchle.
assbot: #201 - A Page Right Out of History ... ( http://bit.ly/1veNave )
mircea_popescu: this is riotously funny. so how does b-a look to the mit cs/econ (?!) undegrad doing a pizzforpusha startup ?
bitcoinquestions: asciilifeform: sure, I'm an MIT dropout (or well taking time off at least) doing my own startup and collecting bitcoins along the way instead of paying tuition. I heard about b-a in an article in the nakamotoinstitute
asciilifeform: bitcoinquestions: so far we've heard nothing but questions; so now i ask a question of you.
asciilifeform: bitcoinquestions: would it trouble you to take a moment to introduce yourself and state how and why you came to #b-a?
taub: darkcoin making a little run
thestringpuller: "OMG You shouldn't try to sell one thing for a billion bucks. YOu should sell a billion things for a dollar each! it's so much more valuable"
mircea_popescu: i definiely need their vote to be happy, and if being rich were allowed (it isn't) then DEFINITELY the only way to get rich is to sell fifty billion fucktards stuff for a quarter each.
thestringpuller: "Remember student council, and individuals running for student office. It was a popularity contest right? Well did those elected have any real power other than in name?"
thestringpuller: d00d the pseudo argument of "Bitcoin is a democracy" is starting to irritate me
assbot: Logged on 25-08-2014 03:08:03; asciilifeform: busy as a bee << funny that they show an idiot sow scrubbing, and not, e.g, paul erdos crapping out theorems
taub: now if you got an addictive personality, its a different thing
taub: when you take your adderall like prescribed by the doctor, i think its a pretty safe drug tho
asciilifeform: it is interesting that open literature contains substantially less useful info on what a particular variety of dope 'does' than it might seem, because of what used to be called 'comorbidities'
thestringpuller: The whole bart simpson era of "troublemakers" which I really don't understand since most of them do coke to work their 80 hour a week jobs.
thestringpuller: cazalla: I thought about that a lot throughout college.
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mircea_popescu: speaking of which, there's a bitcoin kink group. 90 guys of which 50% over 50, 10 gals, of which half from thailand.
TheNewDeal: Deserts not a bad meal either
mircea_popescu: pizza schmizza. home made (actually, slave made!) black sponge cake with bananas in a rich chocolate ganache. from scratch!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform a wire with no resistence consumes no energy right ? but electric charge moving still creates field, right ?
mircea_popescu: knew a guy that actually buried it with a tree he planted.
cazalla: funny you mention that, a slice and the topper of son's first birthday cake is in the freezer.. will remain there for god knows how long
cazalla: while i sit here and eat the carrot cake i made last night and enjoy a cuppa, you know what would be really good? a cake tin that bakes slices of cake so that every slice is an end bit
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: SOP in chinese crap. but traditionally there is a blob of black epoxy over them. in this case - starvation-cheap, omitted the epoxy.
assbot: 2 results for 'phototransistors' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=phototransistors
BingoBoingo: www.raspberrypi.org/xenon-death-flash-a-free-physics-lesson/ << Engineering oversight mega-lol
assbot: #141 - Four Boobies and a Funeral II ... ( http://bit.ly/16HYsSf )
mircea_popescu: just, it pulsates around a different pole these days is all.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform well, frantic activity is not just a cover-up for impotence. it is also the first step towards acceptance.
thestringpuller: "No, Gavin said this can still run on a normal internet connection. Other alt-coin have "master node" and all that crap. Nobody force anyone to be a full node, and nobody that is currently running a full node is complaining.
asciilifeform: leak cannot 'prove a negative'
asciilifeform: i'll elaborate re: above: 'directorate xxx was unable to break rsa despite five quadrillion bezzlars blown in five years' is only mildly interesting because directorate yyy might have a functioning voodoo doll from whose arsehole keys drip on demand. etc.
pete_dushenski: because who needs a wot amirite ?
assbot: Loper OS » A Country of Which Nothing is Known but the Name. ... ( http://bit.ly/1APULYf )
mircea_popescu: you never know what the next bundle of leaks includes, or who's a reader.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform by the way, for what it's worth you should probably make a complete wish list and publish it.
asciilifeform: ^ used to be 'symbolics.com' - oldest registered .com - in fact. but dks sold it to spammers (yes) to pay bills a few yrs ago.
mircea_popescu: hey, any foxy force five chicks in the audience : there's a job to bust into the liege offices of a tiny firm and steal source code. catsuit optional. get in touch.
asciilifeform: have to be a fanatical scholar of winblowsism.
asciilifeform: somewhat tangentially, it was never at all likely that a thing like 'ida' would be produced by anyone other than a thinking man who happens to be a hardcore winblows user.
asciilifeform: by the time it became practical to keep a unix box at home in ru, most of the 'candidates' for this were already enjoying the rewards of writing elaborate winblows crapware, etc.
asciilifeform: there is also a parallel, historical explanation
mircea_popescu: odd that foss got a lot further in latin america.
mircea_popescu: i suppose the problem is that the us is fully aspirational, whereas the ru world a lot more practical.
asciilifeform: my understanding is that ru, cn folks, by and large, never gave even a basic fuck re: open source whatever, until very recently and still insignificantly
asciilifeform: but it is a well-established fact
asciilifeform: as a usg appendage, it is for the furnace.
mircea_popescu: and you're right in pointing out that ida is probably a thing to rewrite, alongside gpg, etc
asciilifeform: and it's a lame elephant with gangrenous legs.
mircea_popescu: this can't be a problem. it's like mp's triangle : x sucks , no competition, anyone cares.