asciilifeform: if the story of why i have them isn't plausible enough
asciilifeform: so from the wot pov, it is not an atrocity that if usg enforcers find me with a metric tonne of benjie bills in bags, they will take'em ?
asciilifeform: the way i read him, he saw 'socialism' (in the sense of industry having a single mega-imperial owner) as a done deal, with the only question being whether the end result would have a gestapo flavour, british ponce buggery flavour, or some other
asciilifeform: orwell, like - i suspect - a great many folks, carried out the algo where 'i want the kind of world in which i and others like me can sleep ad libitum and eat well' - and turned that into 'philosophy'
asciilifeform: ergo the old thread re: why a sp4mz0r wants to 'make $ while sleep'
asciilifeform: can be extended to individual, as well.
asciilifeform: but i don't see that this necessarily qualifies him as a tard. how is one to love something which is incompatible with your own existence ?
asciilifeform: at one point, iirc, he quotes the mega-liturgical 'The rich man in his castle, / The poor man at his gate, / God made them, high or lowly, / And ordered their estate.' as an example of the kind of thing that killing christianity finally nailed, and he can't bring himself to miss it
asciilifeform: i still want to picture a 'smart orwell'
asciilifeform: what was he to do, cry over the corpse like his contemporaries? then we would not be reading!
asciilifeform: as far as i can tell, it was dead long before he learned to read and write
asciilifeform: where in orwell do we see 'print money' ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: orwell assumed that full-scale human beings were a naturally-occurring product that could be taken for granted.
asciilifeform: nah, but a popular one for some reason.
asciilifeform: ^ famous 'second-system effect'! like 'multics.' for that matter, it is an atrocity that scholarly discussions of 'second-system' and 'multics' do not mention the kv !
asciilifeform: when this was no longer the case, the edifice began to fall apart.
asciilifeform: rather than an actual decision-making mechanism
asciilifeform: except it was not, largely, 'law' which maintained order. 'law' was simply the religious incantation uttered by judge before a troublemaker was sent to meet his fate
asciilifeform: (more complicated story, with tank. diesel motor was an unambiguous win, as all tank makers eventually came to know.)
asciilifeform: there was, i think, a third, more pressing problem: why ought the sultan rule, when he can invent bureaucracy and have amoebas rule in his stead, while he bangs 10,000 chicks/year and smokes opium
