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mircea_popescu: the curse of the 3yo brain, to be unable to distinguish between car and cardboard cutout depicting car.
mircea_popescu: this is lulzily reminiscent of the weabo thing sina dug up yest. it's easy enough, from the tard perspective, to go "hey, i live in canada, mp lives in romania, basically the same thing yes ?" but then a few years go by, during which mp has lived in argentina and costa rica, and well... suddenly it's not nearly all that similar anymore.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 16:53 asciilifeform: trinque: kako now runs a public pissoire , voice-for-all, complete with gimmebots, ethertards, etc., many joys
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669139 << i thought the prediction was to be for the exact opposite occuring. ☝︎
deedbot: http://qntra.net/2017/06/comey-sexually-intimidated-by-trump/ << Qntra - Comey Sexually Intimidated By Trump
mircea_popescu: this wouldn't be the same redirecting links in a html, where _anchor_ used to go to url1 but now it'd (silently, unless you kept actual html copies) goes to url2. but in irc format there's no way to link other than by textually dumping a link, so...
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 16:17 phf: asciilifeform: so right now, if you click in the little up arrow, it'll take you to the location in btcbase. i think i might've disabled link substitution at some point on account of it being a subtle log manipulation
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669131 << it's a thorny bush, but i'm with alf : as long as the TEXT reads historically accurate, where the text links can be up to your implementation. person doesn't like where you direct the links, the historicval original is one copy/paste op away. ☝︎
diana_coman: <mod6> diana_coman is a warrior; nice post <- out of the saddest necessity really; thanks!
phf: right now i have a handful of hacky python scripts that simply proxy /mkj/yyyymmdd and /bvulpes/yyyymmdd. they return dates in kako format, but parse html using pyquery.
mircea_popescu: and i mean that, literally.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, that's actually very fitting indeed; will change, thank you!
phf: i think it would be handy if loggers supported web export in kako format over some alternative url. so you could for example say http://bvulpes/log?format=kako&date=2016-01-01 and that'll give you id;ts;nick;message plain text. think i'll write a proposal for it
mircea_popescu: "honey, if one night you see the artichoke bush sneaking into the bedroom, push this lever here and then hold the spigot that way and crank this."
phf: ben_vulpes: could you possibly add timestamp (hh:mm:ss, say) to your div.line's. maybe as data-ts="..." or perhaps as a div.nick title?
mircea_popescu: then winter fucking came, and there they sat under the snow, green and preppy as everything. and i was googling for home version flamethrowers, for you know, insurance just in case like.
mircea_popescu: "bitch is taller than me nao what."
mircea_popescu: and it was traumatic.
mircea_popescu: i have a lot of sympathy. because my fucking artichokes grew like 2.5 m tall.
ben_vulpes: "holy shit look at what happens to tomato plants when grown by humans" "yes, and?" "..."
ben_vulpes: my blog is story of ignorant american bumpkin discovering slowly painfully each and every lie he's been told by the imperial press corps
mircea_popescu: i imagine somewhere deep down they'll expect i'll come to believe this is my fault, or something. weirdo socialist shifthink.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 17:20 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1668953 << dude's in fucking love, clearly. yo benjie : that's how plants look irl, not girl's fault you grew up in the boot of a 2 seater roadster!
mircea_popescu: ie, they hadn't learned the lessons before, either, and not by accident.
mircea_popescu: of course, same 95% of players disappears back into the agar.
phf: a fairly inexpensive way to learn some of the tmsr lessons
mircea_popescu: (believe it or not, ~95% of pw recovery attempts fail because the player lost his password in the sense of, ALL SOFTWARE ON THE MACHINE, data included.)
phf: i kind of want to take a stab at doing a common lisp text only client, but i think i lost my password again, and i'm too embarrassed to ask for another recovery........
mircea_popescu: but, which is how this spitoon unravelled, in order to properly expose this for people to work on gotta have sane protocol, for which you need sane data model or else do conversion, and well...
asciilifeform: phf: i'd doubt that the existing open sores turd would do the job ( esp how 'render without gpu' is a more or less entirely untested component, 'everyone has gpu!111' etc )
mircea_popescu: heck, danielpbarron is moving towards an actuall dvd distro of the whole thing.
mircea_popescu: phf the topic of making clients for teh eulora is very much open, my model is that there's a bunch of 3rd party clients, from text to whatever gpu-enabled thing.
mircea_popescu: 0 tolerance for multiculti bs.
phf: i think crystal space already supports limited software rendering, but figuring out how to properly enable it seems to be not for the faint of heart
mircea_popescu: and no, never relinquishing political control, ever, no fucking way. colonial empire all the way, force the locals to either absorb themselves into whiteness or spawn chattel indefinitely.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that's part of what the publisher will accept as art assets, see ?
mircea_popescu: phf something like that.
asciilifeform: ( to one day be rid of closed turd gpu )
asciilifeform: phf: i know very little re eulora design process, but did assume that mircea_popescu et al deliberately put in a polygon count limit, and that the logic was approx like this.
phf: asciilifeform: sure, considering that graphics are intentionally seem to be kept might&magic like can easily render the whole thing in software
mircea_popescu: imagine, eulora played for paypal ? fuck that shit with a hot iron poker, there's NO WAY shitworld claws back to relevancy.
mircea_popescu: absolutely never licensing any of this. people wish to contribute, they get to participate, not to "just like bitcoin with a little bit of censorship" bullshit. ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw the graphics , as seen by asciilifeform's naked eye, suggest that a cpu-only renderer ( 0 magic iron ) could, in theory, run eulora
phf: presumably to make it sane will have to write own blitter to surface, etc.
asciilifeform: ( the language-level support for sane concurrency it more or less perfect for subj )
asciilifeform: even moar so, then
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is server side.
mircea_popescu: 10x the time, easily 100x the "effort" (although it is no more meaningful to compare the work of republican with the braying of subhuman opensources than it is to compare cpus and breast implants) and so forth.
asciilifeform: an ada '3d engine' would be quite a thing, incidentally
mircea_popescu: which, incidentally, looks like it'll take one mentally competent woman about one year. the "open source" crapolade was built OVER A DECADE. and it's ~useless, within three zeros.
trinque: I know that pain, difficult process
trinque: is this a matter of backing out of using a big open source item?
mircea_popescu: and the fundamental point is quite solid : the monkey hates thought, because hey, why won't you just sit and groom with the rest of 'em! PSYCHOPATH!!1
mircea_popescu: dude this diana_coman poem thing is pretty fucking epic.
mod6: ah. yeah, well, eitherway - i appreciate the guidence.
asciilifeform: mod6: i was actually thinking moar of own experience with it, than yours
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1668953 << /me didn't even get to do a garden this year :[ ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah i saw trims of that in the logs lol.
mircea_popescu: moreover, replacing a coke habit with a workout habit is, in practice and experience, the cheapest, safest and surest way to rehab crackwhores.
asciilifeform: i've found that teaching ada to c programmer is almost a miniature course in subj
mircea_popescu: but presenting cogently and in a tight package the man-monkey difference can't possibly hurt the recent escapee off the "i can't believe it's not plato's" cave.
mircea_popescu: no argument with either of these.
asciilifeform: but the responsibility to be a man rather than monkey -- cannot be delegated to tool.
asciilifeform: so to a certain extent tools can shape habit. and the bridges are maintained, instead of folx clustering around the souped car.
asciilifeform: naggum had an interesting discussion re cl ( and iirc also mentioned ada, his other-language ) in re discouragement of 'easy to write small throwaway programs' as a factor in building durable infrastructure ( vs liquishit, which in his time consisted of microshit and of perlism )
mircea_popescu: because it's not all that intuitive.
mircea_popescu: and ability to drive is what makes, properly, a driver. it STILL HELPS to tell people "objects in rearview mirror are closer than they appear".
asciilifeform: ability to properly direct resources (of self , and sometimes others ) is afaik what even makes, meaningfully, 'lord'
mircea_popescu: to me either. but it's clear that there might be something.
asciilifeform: it isn't clear to me that there is a problem described here, such that could admit an answer.
mircea_popescu: sure. but what's this do.
asciilifeform: their attempts are a laugh, though -- their picture of 'sexy project' is about as appealing as syphilis
mircea_popescu dislikes the notion of guilt tripping people as a resource allocation mechanism.
mircea_popescu: it's ok to point out how stupid it is, sure. it's dubious to not have some kind of an answer. which dun seem like we have.
mircea_popescu: this base tendency is what the whole google/apple/etc (redhat, you name it, "open source") shitworlds try to cater to.
mircea_popescu: from a purely alien perspective, in a town with decaying infrastructure you'll still see a bunch of men gathered around the guy souping up his car, rather than gathered around the places which desperately need maintenance work.
asciilifeform: dunno, everything on asciilifeform's plate has been there for literally years
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly as phf describes, there's a certain drag/lift factor in work being done. have you noticed how effort allocation tends to follow "what's happening" more than "i've though about this" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 17:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669085 << yes and quite frankly this is becoming it's own sort of problem.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669195 << plox to elaborate? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i suppose old taco bell wrappers rolled up.
mircea_popescu: what'd one have to be smoking to not realise ethereum's onl;y function is to siphon value from the web horde into the hands of bitcoin holders is anyone's guess.
mircea_popescu: hurr durr an thanks for all teh fishes, you self-determined, independent minded schmucks you.
mircea_popescu: "nobody reads" trilema, such as eg "not smart enough to sling dope" article. but EVERYONE EXECUTES it.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc << AHA, marlinspike presented as "hippie recreational sailor"
asciilifeform: every bacterium Has The Right to Tx!11
asciilifeform: PB! why think small.
shinohai digs deeper into these lulz
mircea_popescu: ah, that's harder to capture
mircea_popescu: they're technologically uniform in their ineptitude, but linguistically there's plenty of sane exemplars in the ~1k or so live languages.
asciilifeform: not re the language, but re the thought pattern
asciilifeform: it is an almost 'african' pattern, 'at one time my grandfather walked on a bridge, i heard... i'ma call meself Bob Bridgebuilder' etc
mircea_popescu: no wonder pantsuit party has no substantial disagreement with china becoming dominating power. they watch that inept chinese writing method and get wet. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: quasiliterate anglos tend to come up with very similar names, yes
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the naming convention (moldbug, marlinspike, etcetera) suggests someone in an office farm in maryland./
mircea_popescu: it's one thing to piss on the remnants of the cathedralbazaar, but it's another thing to not have a good answer to teh network effects.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 14:27 phf: the interface is not very thought through because there's not enough dog fooding happening. vpatches require higher overhead than git blobs by design following the principle of measure ten times, cut once. but that means that it takes longer to evolve a workflow around them since the trickle of new updates is much slower
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-12#1669085 << yes and quite frankly this is becoming it's own sort of problem. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "how was that shit 20bn ?" "it was before they bought it hue"
a111: Logged on 2017-06-12 10:29 sina: it's like, you say, someone hacked my box and stole my bitcoins and then my response is "use signal. use tor"