asciilifeform: it's a curious first choice, that's all.

asciilifeform: no especially heavy reason why not

asciilifeform: but x86?

asciilifeform: i mean, i can see arm-32 (pogo et al) or mips-32

asciilifeform: hanbot: but i also gotta ask, why are you building a x86-32 bitcoind ?

asciilifeform: hanbot: you can examine your .o files with objdump

asciilifeform: gcc linker is dumb as a brick, but we knew this.

asciilifeform: trinque: a long-mode-only opcode got shuffled in, almost dead certain

asciilifeform: (i presume hanbot is actually testing on a machine running in 32-bit mode)

asciilifeform: this is betrayed by 'Illegal instruction.'

asciilifeform: hanbot: dollars to doughnuts you built a x86-64 component and it somehow got linked !

asciilifeform: stripped bin is gonna look like that paste, buncha ????s

asciilifeform: (unstripped)

asciilifeform: hanbot: or at least lemme have the binary

asciilifeform: hanbot: plz build unstripped and post gdb trace ??

asciilifeform just had mindfuck moment, read the title of that piece without realizing what language it was in

asciilifeform: https://twitter.com/hivewallet << this apparently

asciilifeform: domain is defunct

asciilifeform: dafuq is grabhive ?

asciilifeform: hm ok

asciilifeform: what gives

asciilifeform: 0FBEF185 does not appear to match any publicly-known pubkeys for pete@petertodd.org >>>>> https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=pete%40petertodd.org&op=index

asciilifeform: aaaaand...

asciilifeform: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=john.dillon892%40googlemail.com&op=index << 'revoked' l0l

asciilifeform: some folks have poor memory, and keep plaintexts lyin' around ?

asciilifeform: from the operator's laziness ?

asciilifeform: where he perhaps gpg --decrypt ..... ... >> massive_turd.txt

asciilifeform: i assumed that this was lifted off todd's hdd or the like

asciilifeform: who the fuq thought this belonged in a pgptron ?!

asciilifeform: 'aka "[jpeg image of size 5220]"' << i always l0lld from this misfeature

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: 'Why not go ahead and say it? You know that Mike and similar will counter-argue that mining needs to be done by "responsible" central authority figures running pools, so let them make that bogus argument...'

asciilifeform: i can see ~that~

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: dafuq's that

asciilifeform: (this is not coincidence, but rather how long it takes the typical schmuck to pay off the credit for the thing)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: many things are not sold now. e.g., passenger cars with more than 5 or so years of life in'em

asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-02-2014#506970 ☝︎

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: pretty sure he was speaking of his 'beetle men'

asciilifeform: (from same)

asciilifeform: 'It is forbidden to dream again; / We maim our joys or hide them: / Horses are made of chromium steel / And little fat men shall ride them.'

asciilifeform: 'spreading works! even if eating doesn't yet!'

asciilifeform: that way folks wouldn't perforate bumper in the night

asciilifeform: i could also use a dirigible

asciilifeform: the arse is long.

asciilifeform has a good deal of material like this, but in nothing like publishable form because ars longa...

asciilifeform: it is tempting.

asciilifeform: he did not often stoop to answering the tards, but sometimes could not avoid.

asciilifeform: it was as 'mean girlz' as anything from tardstalk-mpoe-era

asciilifeform: i was recently enjoying an anthology of the collected personal correspondence of n. tesla

asciilifeform: they had this!

asciilifeform: we are perhaps at the level of ampere and faraday, analogously, but nowhere near maxwell.

asciilifeform: what's mircea_popescu's corner? economitronics of the 1880s ?

asciilifeform: reads quite like this.

asciilifeform: at any rate, the matter prior to heaviside nailing down maxwell's eqs to their modern form (maxwell had 20 eqs in that many unknowns!),

asciilifeform: (at the time, 'electrician' meant roughly what 'solid state physicist' means today, but minus the derpatronic aspect)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: all of this reminds me of a secret pleasure of mine - reading 'electrician' scientific publications from the era of heaviside

asciilifeform: there is a long student tradition of writing 'quines', programs which display themselves.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ask the 'coq' folks

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: specifically prove ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it has to be touched, somehow. because the notion is doomed to come into play

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'a'+'c' - 'what facts can or cannot be mathematically proven about a computer program? and when?'

asciilifeform: tried it ?

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: my back yard, even, is swarming with'em

asciilifeform: l0l

asciilifeform: (see thread)

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: who needs catfish when you can eat cat! in shenzen!

asciilifeform: i'm not certain the target clientele ~have~ any money..?

asciilifeform: (the purpose of a sybil is not necessarily to deceive the victim into transacting with a known party through it)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sybil and mitm are entirely orthogonal concepts

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: that's rather like saying that locust is not an agriculturally-relevant organism, no ?

asciilifeform buying coinz for 1st time since '12

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'c' (or 'd' ?) - 'what information is conveyed by a cryptographic signature ?'

asciilifeform: hanbot: i dare say that the concept of idempotence is key re: bitcoin

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'c' (or 'd' ?) - 'describe what is steganography, and name a successful and a catastrophic instance of its use'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'c' (or 'd' ?) - 'distinguish 'fail-safe' and 'fail-deadly' mechanisms. give a common example of each.'

asciilifeform: but not, usually, by self

asciilifeform: Adlai: generally, this determination is made by.. one's peers (not by amoeba, no. peers.)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'a' - 'what is idempotence ?'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'm trying to form a mental model of the how+why of certain quiz items; for instance, why is rawls in there, but not, e.g, 'describe what is a bucket shop'

asciilifeform: gonna be tough considering how we teach right here, for phree

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'd' - 'what is a man-in-the-middle attack'

asciilifeform: (example of 'arithmetically-challenged-and-doesn't-know-it')

asciilifeform: Adlai: another more subtle example, see the earlier link today with the 'otp was debunked now!111!!11!' imbecile

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: water in sahara, air in orbit, entropy on ibm pc...

asciilifeform: not having to trust someone else to read the scrollz

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is kinda what literacy is about, i think

asciilifeform: but just about everyone mentally places it in the former

asciilifeform: entropy is squarely in the latter class

asciilifeform: srsly designers of microcomps helped to spread the most bizarre misconceptions about what is rare and costly and what is common as shit

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not just this! gotta have access to arithmetic, even!

asciilifeform: as 'coevolve'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not strictly biological; e.g., winblowz virii qualify

asciilifeform: 'd' - 'what is coevolution?'

asciilifeform: well yes, but ideally folks who are reading this can try the puzzle first, then see the hints

asciilifeform: i oughtn't just fuck it for people

asciilifeform: hey it wants to be a quiz

asciilifeform: bar - enaqbz va gur frafr bs haxabja-gb naq hathrffnoyr-ol gur bccbarag. gjb - va gur frafr bs orvat fryrpgrq nf n erfhyg bs n fgngvfgvpnyyl-fzbbgu cebprff - r.t., onynaprq ebhyrggr jurry be snve pbva. guerr - enaqbz va gur frafr bs nccrnevat gb unir uvtu nytbevguzvp (xbyzbtbebi, punvgva) pbzcyrkvgl. r.t., qvtvgf bs 'cv' ner (3) ohg abg (2) naq hfhnyyl abg (1).

asciilifeform: rot13:

asciilifeform: i can think 3 entirely-orthogonal that have come up here.

asciilifeform: hence why i suggested it..