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asciilifeform: tradition was that a man ought not unless so ordered.
asciilifeform: part of what did it was the reluctance to catapult
mircea_popescu: if you ever played heroes you know you CANT FUCKING LOSE TEN PERCENT OMFG YOU ARE ALL FIRED WITH STICKS
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670249 << i tell you, if i was airforce command, i'd throw a hissy fit, and not rest, nor let anyone sleep, until it was less than 1% ☝︎
asciilifeform: general idea : the 'packed sardine herders' want the old world -- forgotten. the one that built the flat asciilifeform grew up in -- built 1907, 4 metre ceilings
asciilifeform: the ones where ~anyone worth the mention has 'hired help', etc
a111: Logged on 2015-01-08 14:02 mike_c: there's another 14 btc for bitbet investors. maybe this bet will spark a rally in the stock.
asciilifeform: esp. the pre-1940s ones
mircea_popescu: which is i suppose why they don't./
asciilifeform: sorta why they quasi-banned them
mircea_popescu: it's an important exercise, for the "land of the free home of the brave" soviet union citizen 2.0, to review the 1950s movies, and implicitly what things looked like.
a111: Logged on 2015-09-07 04:00 mircea_popescu: in the 50s a bank CLERK lived in roughly what alf thinks palatial.
a111: Logged on 2015-01-08 14:06 cazalla: it all shrinks, i grew up visiting my opa's backyard on the weekends, spending week days in my own parent's smaller backyard, what do i have for my own son? next to fucking nothing, no-one has kids, no-one has familiies, no-one can afford shit, land of opportunity my fucking ass
mircea_popescu: "bitch, we've come so very far, your socialism and me, that now i gotta be president to get the house a returning midshipman'd have got"
asciilifeform: i thought he bought an 'old money' 19th c thing
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the funhny thing is, baby boomer producing cheap housing is ~what obama gets today
asciilifeform: the 1850s d00d probably would barf before even entering sorry hovel : 'where is the pasture ? whaddayamean quarter acre of shitmud ? '
mircea_popescu: and the whole story of "oh, 1800 style squalor and poverty and five points erradicated!!! great ourdemocracy progress!!!" is really just very caked on masking upon the base fact that "we redirected all resources away from fun, so that now there's nothing to do but wait to die a la http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156 ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform occupies entire 'standard american' house and has it at this point mostly packed like nazi sub
mircea_popescu: the 1850s major and his ilk WOULDNT HAVE FIT in the baby boomer producing cheap housing.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the point being that "man's greatest possible as well as actual aspiration is to wait upon some dumb cunt and the miserable maggots that crawl out of her cunt with some regularity" was never in history socially acceptable or socially accepted. it became the norm post ww2 not for any reason than because it is a prerequisite (among many other) for stacking pseudo-people like sardines.
mircea_popescu: i'm just saying -- this is universally and without exception true, in all cultures, times and places.
asciilifeform: ( the mega-originator of genre!! )
mircea_popescu: it was ~never different~. the male hut was this port in athens, where fun was had. the female hut was this literal hut, where they groomed and talked dumb shit.
mircea_popescu: ie, a book from 1900 about a major's "what a great time we had" re 1850s wars.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 13:54 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670194 << i don't know of any su-world mil autobio that ~wasn't~ a 'what fun we had'
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670242 << it gets better. caragiale (possibly only romanian in the history of that political concoction to be suspectable of intelligence) praises greatly „Maior C Pruncu — Din campaniile mele (Crimeea, 1855, Algeria, 1856—57, Italia, Maroc, 1859). Tipărită la Bârlad în 1900, la tipografia George V Munteanu” ☝︎
mircea_popescu: in fact the above agreement re the florida cession will actually do more than the even above-er "agreement" on talking-about-bitcoin-from-outside-bitcoin
mircea_popescu: why the fuck not.
mircea_popescu: "the united states has agreed during a conference in #trilema to cede florida back to spain"
mircea_popescu: maybe we should start doing this, "the united states came to an agreement" bla bla.
asciilifeform: 'Thousands of dreamers and schemers and developers who populate the cutting edge of computer science, most of them young, had invested in the DAO. This was real money, a quarter of a billion dollars, their money, meant to build a better version of the world, and every cent was at risk.' << gold
a111: Logged on 2017-06-11 04:51 mircea_popescu: it'll never end, this constant stream of improved improvements, until they're literally fucking buried, the muppets, will it.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 13:49 asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9AZcm << meanwhile, the forkwarz folx. '...the Bitcoin industry came to an agreement in New York...' didjaknow!!
mircea_popescu: shinohai good thing they figured out who satoshi was, at least.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 12:40 asciilifeform: a sound card rng is considerably better than... none at all. but this is all that can be said for it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670238 << the history of computing is fulla this. not to mention the history of eastern europe. ☝︎
shinohai: https://www.bloomberg.com/features/2017-the-ether-thief/ <<< It's a mystery! or, how to rewrite history in your favour ....
asciilifeform: fwiw i can't picture serving in a nato army and NOT deserting and/or going to enemy at the first opportunity.
asciilifeform: ^ winged phrase, this one, mircea_popescu ☟︎
a111: 5 results for "right to marry her dog", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=right%20to%20marry%20her%20dog
asciilifeform: !#s right to marry her dog
a111: Logged on 2015-08-19 23:55 mircea_popescu: what, "i'm a boy from tenesee here to die for some fat bitch's right to marry her dog" ?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:04 mircea_popescu: who the fuck are you to die for something, anyway.
asciilifeform: 'The sluggard believes | he shall live forever, If the fight he faces not; But age shall not grant him | the gift of peace, Though spears may spare his life.' ( havamal , bellows' translation )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670156 << 'die not the straw death !' (tm)(r)(odin) ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the spring's running down.
asciilifeform: the inescapable picture is that ww2 was the last time euro civilization's clock was wound.
asciilifeform: aaaha, the ~last generation-of-people-worth-talking-to
diana_coman: so maybe more a sign of degradation rather than anything else (and yes, when I went into academia initially it was based on what I knew from those old people - the shock/unpleasant surprise was quite huge)
diana_coman: the only trouble with the emerging image of academia as "the land of how opressed" is the fact that...I knew some old real academics too; and they...had fun; also! lol ☟︎
asciilifeform: by the time i got to usa, most of the people worth talking to, were dead.
diana_coman: and yeah, no idea re Americans exactly - my interactions were mainly with Europeans and I'd say biased towards Eastern Europe too
diana_coman: I did notice some difference at old veterans of both wars - not really much talk of fun exactly but certainly not that impressed with death either
asciilifeform: though with emigres it was somewhat complicated, some of them were (how does one even say this in english?) 'serving out their pay'
diana_coman: asciilifeform, I kind of suspect the what fun vs how oppressed is a good way to tell what sort of person is talking basically
asciilifeform: it was serious problem because the ~hardware~ was costly and ever in shortage -- rather than new d00dz
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:17 diana_coman: and yes, some of them were dead
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 06:17 diana_coman: fwiw I talked to former army pilots; they had lots of pictures of lots of males as you might imagine; the punchline was...WHAT FUN WE HAD
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670194 << i don't know of any su-world mil autobio that ~wasn't~ a 'what fun we had' ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670140 << aaaaaand that is how we got merkel germany ☝︎
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/9AZcm << meanwhile, the forkwarz folx. '...the Bitcoin industry came to an agreement in New York...' didjaknow!! ☟︎
asciilifeform: a sound card rng is considerably better than... none at all. but this is all that can be said for it. ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( there is an old thread where mircea_popescu mentions it; asciilifeform at one time also used )
asciilifeform: incidentally at one time quite a few folx, incl. some of the people here, used sound card rng
asciilifeform: which puts him ahead of the entire 2005-present crop of derps
asciilifeform: at least in sect. 7 he admits that one oughta be able to switch it off prior to tests.
asciilifeform: phf: ... or where the author elaborately justifies 'whitening'
asciilifeform: phf: notice how the discussion of DAC artifacts omits... the clock
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670142 << this is pure gold, ty for posting, phf . it's rng-nonsense from back when folx were posting ~erudite~ nonsense, rather than the regular redditola snore ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: it's the oldest profession this, what! "bet you a dime the next person coming in the door will be female"
mircea_popescu: besides, one day i found a correspondence between the direction in which my dog barked and whether it was gonna rain that day.
mircea_popescu: nothing. i'm convinced of that.
erlehmann: what would be needed to convince you that the researchers found a correspondence between a cellular automaton on a hexagonal lattice and skin cells?
a111: Logged on 2017-06-14 05:34 erlehmann: mircea_popescu something like this, maybe? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28406206
erlehmann: have you read the paper i linked? » http://btcbase.org/log/2017-06-14#1670094 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: erlehmann there's absolutely no relation between the mathematical model of cellular automata and biological cells.
phf: it seems like a questionable move to speak for your friend's motivations like that. sort of a classic moralist move "oh these bikers who were fucking, taking drugs, and riding wild DIED YOUNG!!1"
erlehmann: mircea_popescu was the cell conforming thing ment as a metaphor only or do you have something to share on cellular automata?
jhvh1: mircea_popescu: The West Point Story (1950) - IMDb: <http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043123/>; The West Point Story (film) - Wikipedia: <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_West_Point_Story_(film)>; The West Point Story (1950) - Overview - TCM.com: <http://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/16073/The-West-Point-Story/>
mircea_popescu: !~google the west point story
erlehmann: ah, the train fills
mircea_popescu: he's a dancer. but he also gets the visiting french president to do his bidding by showing him ww2 decorations etc
diana_coman: my take away from your picture story is that apparently each of those in the picture got pretty much what they wanted so...
erlehmann: i am thoroughly glad that i do not find work fun because it means i do not lose motivation when others do not have fun.
diana_coman: that's not even the point; one of them apparently kept being promoted/demoted in times of peace because he was a. an excellent pilot b. apparently unable to not have fun regardless of whether it's "permitted" or not
erlehmann: diana_coman of course, the goal of war is not do die for your country, but to make the other basterd die for theirs
mircea_popescu: i don't think i ever met anyone i'd let into the house who was death-avoidance-oriented.
erlehmann: i made a tripping haskell programmer smile when i was like ALGOL – NO FUN ALLOWED
diana_coman: and yes, some of them were dead ☟︎
diana_coman: fwiw I talked to former army pilots; they had lots of pictures of lots of males as you might imagine; the punchline was...WHAT FUN WE HAD ☟︎
diana_coman: erlehmann, getting a picture ready with "this one wanted to NOT HAVE FUN" ?
erlehmann: i am kinda glad about that
erlehmann: my coworkers say similar things. i always answer that work does not feel enjoyable for me and programming is not fun.
erlehmann: oh, i won't sleep, probably. but i have mindless work to do and i feel in the right state of mind for that.
mircea_popescu: ok, not bad. i guess i didn't spend enough time staring at that part of europe at the rightr age.
erlehmann: on my keyboard, m and f are not right next to each other
mircea_popescu: the swedes are the maggots.
mircea_popescu: i think you might've had the people/vermin division wrong.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/46E2BC3DFECF66D5EB114D753CC7C15EDCC1601F9583FFE3D74CB86158CA41A9 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1324...4823 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '32.215.44.114 (ssh-rsa key from 32.215.44.114 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown US CT)