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BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: That seems to go with what I read as well.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo anyway, as far as i understand (not an expert) the reason neoplasm mostly turns anaerobic is that apoptosis main branch and aerobic respiration share some protein pathways. so it often gets deleted in the same pass as it were, "no electricity" means no music and no light at the same time.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, from a political standpoint the "no sugar" angle is good. i'm stuck mostly eating homemade cake because everyone's convinced you need sugar by the bucket. "gotta be sweet man!"
mircea_popescu: xanthyos: i resent being solicited for help joining the wot only to then have them go afk << resent less, live longer. definitely happier.
mircea_popescu: aspho i dun think anyone tried just saying it to see if it gets ignored or anything yet.
aspho: Cazalla: I see where you're coming from. not pointing fingers, just helping out (although it gets attention comparing with coindesk heh)
cazalla: i think only one person claims to be, eh thickasthieves? *rimshot*
cazalla: aspho, BingoBoingo has updated the post to clarify but fwiw i was implied it might not be factual given facebook
mircea_popescu: lobbes: okay.. I can maybe see diabetes.. but to eliminate the possibility of cancer by cutting out sugar and seeds <<< there are some good if not winning arguments in favour. generally, fats are about twice as energetic per gram as sugars. however the power (ie, energy per time) function is much flatter. that's only half the story, of course, because the fat (and protein, they're related, as you'd expect) processing b
aspho: tbf I read it both ways
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i suppose some sort of revision's in order ?
mircea_popescu: sort-of like we snub our nose at mcdo hamburgers i guess.
nubbins`: mircea_popescu i feel like it was some sort of shitty type of wheat
mircea_popescu: for one thing they didn't eat fish (seth lived in the nile). for another, i dun recall what their main grain was but definitely not wheat.
gernika: mircea_popescu I'm guessing Egyptian workers/soldiers got the same.
mircea_popescu: and i guess grapes the day the boss' wife was doing the fingertrap.
nubbins`: by the time "until" reached my lips, i realized that's exactly what it was 8)
nubbins`: ben_vulpes i was recently trying to describe the sensation of being rendered unconscious by NO2 in a clinical setting. after hemming and hawing for a few minutes, i said "it's sort of like doing whippets until you pass out"
gernika: mircea_popescu ok I should substitute "mostly grain + small amount of meat and vegetables" for "starch alone" then
nubbins`: LEL I KID
gernika: I suspect that there has not been much or any negative selection related to eating grains. Eating them doesn't kill you before you can breed. So yes, eventually they may or may not make you fat and give you diabetes, but not before you've had 10 kids fueled on starch alone.
BingoBoingo: I've never had the opportunity to actual yogurt.
joecool: is that a polite way of saying "i'd rather not disclose"?
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo this used to be what students lived off in the 80s/90s. there was an actual shop speficially catering to it. various sour milks and breads. << Well, I picked up the habit in school, so...
xanthyos: i don't know if i'm at liberty to reveal that information
xanthyos: <<< well, who is he ? << it was that thomas_d guy and also bagels7 but i think thomas is flaking out
mircea_popescu: (incidentally, millet unlevened bread, now that's an experience. i have nfi why it's not becoming a hipster thing. maybe they never heard of it)
BingoBoingo: Yeah. Bread is good. SOmetimes i do "Bread cleanses" where I'll get a big loaf of bread, some nice butter, and eat that for a day or two.
joecool: mircea_popescu: nah, despite the fact i live in 'murica, i have grown my own fruit and vegetables
mircea_popescu: joecool: undata: pretty much yeah, i hardly ever have it << my bet is because you live in a place with shitty (ie, supermarket) fruit.
mircea_popescu: which of these are you giving up because of that silly "evolved" theory ? i wasn't evolved to use a keyboard nor to cross the street nor do i give a shit.
mircea_popescu: saifedean: chetty: "but I really don't see passing on grain entirely." Try it for a week and see what it does to you. How hard can that be? What do you stand to lose? <<< i'm pretty sure she did try it for a week on and off, multiple times. not purposefully or anything, just, how it happened.
mircea_popescu: may be the worst scampeaches i ever did see.
undata: mircea_popescu: I wouldn't bat an eye.
mircea_popescu: joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing the noob log << good to know someone actually misses me :D
mircea_popescu: i think half the liquid i drink is milk.
mircea_popescu: undata: the cheese could go too but that's no way to live << no buttermilk ? no yogurt ? why would i even.
mircea_popescu: i mean sure, the hamburger & canned hot dog crowd is eating very poorly, but that's not the same thing.
nubbins`: anyway. on its way. i guess.
nubbins`: guy was all "we'll never find it", i described the shape and he was all "o yeah, that one"
gribble: thestringpuller was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 3 hours, 54 minutes, and 0 seconds ago: <thestringpuller> saifedean: I prefer my diet of candy and insulin.
mike_c: oh no, i didn't get it either. he explained it in channel at some point.
gribble: fivezerotwo was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 21 hours, 54 minutes, and 17 seconds ago: <fivezerotwo> have fun, i'll see you soon :D
gribble: I have not seen twozerofive.
lobbes: <+saifedean> yes, though i havent read this piece, but take it from the horse's mouth: http://www.whale.to/a/warburg.html << hehe, I dig the tripod.com url at the top of the page; vintage
saifedean: i didnt actually read the link you sent so i can't vouch for it, or if it's an accurate explanation of the topic, so i gave you one that i had read which i know is good
ben_vulpes: "i didn't actually read the source oh noes"
ben_vulpes: <saifedean> yes, though i havent read this piece << you're like the guy who links to btc stealing malware
xanthyos: i resent being solicited for help joining the wot only to then have them go afk
saifedean: yes, though i havent read this piece, but take it from the horse's mouth: http://www.whale.to/a/warburg.html
lobbes: <+saifedean> if you eliminate grains, seeds and sugars, you effectively eliminate the possibility of developing most modern diseases, including diabetes, cancer, alzheimer's, obesity, and so on << okay.. I can maybe see diabetes.. but to eliminate the possibility of cancer by cutting out sugar and seeds??
ben_vulpes: i did it for a while
chetty: I read about that coffee with butter thing, havent had the nerve to try it
chetty: well if I got dark chocolate everything else will be ok. :)
joecool: chetty: i eat high % chocolate, usually 91% or 100%
ben_vulpes: i have.
saifedean: ben_vulpes, i havent. would you recommend it?
chetty: ahh I be chocolate isnt on the list, cant be doing without that for more than a week :P
chetty: I dont think I am that far off paleo as it is, most of what I eat is raw fruit, veggies and meat anyway.
joecool: undata: pretty much yeah, i hardly ever have it
joecool: until i figured out what it was
chetty: saifedean, ok, I can do that (guess I better read up on it a bit, can I still have coffee?)
joecool: so i fasted a week or two and did an additive diet
joecool: saifedean: i found out i had severe issues with wheat after i noticed i'd feel better if i didn't eat
saifedean: chetty: "but I really don't see passing on grain entirely." Try it for a week and see what it does to you. How hard can that be? What do you stand to lose?
joecool: i don't miss it, used to ride insulin rollercoaster for years
chetty: <saifedean> oh chetty, those who resist paleo the most are the ones most desperately in need of it!// the paleo idea makes sense to me, and for sure all those chemical and stuff that passes for food is bad idea, but I really don't see passing on grain entirely.
saifedean: i don't mind automation for as long as it does not compromise the quality of the thing in question. So, a fridge is a good idea to keep my steaks cool for a few hours between butchering and grilling. A deep freezer is not such a good idea coz the meat will never taste the same.
rithm: Sent While I Sleep Soundly
undata: because I want to be left alone to work!
undata: I'm trying to find an article; the sentence that sticks out in my memory was something like "why would anyone buy lightbulbs when they can just pay staff to see to their candles?"
undata: I disagree; humans are overrated.
undata: I'm working on a software business for now; should that succeed, I'd like to look into automation products for small scale food production.
joecool: i've produced a good chunk of mine off and on over the years
joecool: ah i missed mp, funny seeing the noob log
saifedean: well thestringpuller, i've tried that shitty-ass diet and i tried being paleo, and there's no comparison. Once you try going paleo, eating crap seems about as reasonable as not looking around before crossing the street. Sure, it can be done... but why?
thestringpuller: saifedean: I prefer my diet of candy and insulin.
chetty: saifedean, actually I think there is good call for the sort of 'grill' you describe in Argentina, the relaxed atmosphere, the fire, etc. Steak may be great here but it could use some 'trappings'
saifedean: ok, you have a point, i'll have both :D
saifedean: i should be finding out soon if my trip will pan out and will let you know
mircea_popescu: anyway, show up, i'll buy you a steak.
saifedean: no i've never been to argentina, but i did live in Rio de Janeiro for two years as a kid
saifedean: well, as i said i am hoping to go to BA sometime soon, my argentine friend will be there and it's meant as a crash course in grilling... i could just stick around, but i'd need me a new business idea for the post-bezzlepocalypse
saifedean: i kinda figured from what i have read from your blog!
mircea_popescu: i mean. of the inch thickness, a half inch in the middle is barely warm.
mircea_popescu: i mostly ate lamb and chicken over my time among the no-pok-people.
mircea_popescu: you know, i've never had any decent beef, not in cairo, not in luxor, not even in lebanon.
saifedean: undata that's why i'm still researching and thinking of this while keeping my academic job
undata: my god 4 walls and a door and I'm there
saifedean: the way i see it, bitcoin will kill pretty much all the world of bezzle, as i'm sure you folk agree, and the only jobs that will thrive in th future are those that involve actually doing something useful for other people which others appreciate and are happy to pay for. there are few things in life people appreciate better than a well-cooked steak, and few things in life that are done badly as often
saifedean: i definitely have the travel stories and the pretty wife and zero shits are given about what may come... most my days are a struggle to secure excellent quality food, a struggle which will only be resolved conclusively once i have my entire operation
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller saifedean i am familiar with your idea of restaurants. these work as a retirement ploy by old merchants, who have an immense pile of gold in the basement, a pretty wife and don't give a shit about what may come, they juist want people to hang out and chat with.
saifedean: if i could run a single operation very well, it could make enough income to allow me to live very well, while spending my days doing something i enjoy
saifedean: why the hell would i want to scale? if i wanted to scale i'd join mcdonalds for a rewarding career and an early grave
mircea_popescu: saifedean maybe. i am also very good at cooking, people love my stuff and i could definitely get them to pay.
undata: I like bitcoin and grilled food; I dunno about the honey badger thing
saifedean: coz i really enjoy grilling, i'm very good at it, people really like my steaks and i could get them to pay me good money to eat it if i put my head to make it good... sounds to me like a better way of spending your life than any bezzle career
thestringpuller: saifedean: i am working on a crypto bakery lol
saifedean: undata & mp, i'm actually thinking of starting a grill restaurant... to be named the honey badger grill, bitcoin preferred
thestringpuller: Regex, yet another reason I hate strings.