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shinohai: Looks like box running my trb node was a casualty of the storm ... fried nic despite my best efforts to revive.
a111: Logged on 2017-06-18 23:30 asciilifeform: and realized, while doing this, that in fact you don't need 2k+2 bits for the karatsuba intermediates, you can do instead of (x0+x1)*(y0+y1) , (x0-x1)*(y0-y1), and then you don't need to propagate carries, but only take absolutevalue and xor the borrows to see if gotta invert the resulting term
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1E747904CF05517E963D69C8198C6B734799A985645841277AA10A142DDE92D5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1761...9693 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.52.109.8 (ssh-rsa key from 84.52.109.8 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (relay.tfl.spb.ru. RU SPE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/1E747904CF05517E963D69C8198C6B734799A985645841277AA10A142DDE92D5 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1617...7583 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '84.52.109.8 (ssh-rsa key from 84.52.109.8 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (relay.tfl.spb.ru. RU SPE)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A42D585D4E69C2724B635FFC697C84D81F11623C3D5A8A770A429C135127DE12 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1752...1279 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.253.101.164 (ssh-rsa key from 193.253.101.164 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (LReunion-656-1-16-164.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr. FR)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/A42D585D4E69C2724B635FFC697C84D81F11623C3D5A8A770A429C135127DE12 << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1425...7567 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '193.253.101.164 (ssh-rsa key from 193.253.101.164 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (LReunion-656-1-16-164.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr. FR)
asciilifeform finally cut down the last motherfucking green hell
asciilifeform: the kind that had the transformer in the base
asciilifeform: sometimes also perversities (e.g. today found very nice shop lamp , of a 1950s type i already have, and picked up... walked with that)
asciilifeform: books, toolz, etc
asciilifeform is not a thin man; but can walk dawn - midnight noprob
mircea_popescu: let alone any intensive bouts of thinking.
asciilifeform: there is something to this. asciilifeform usedto wurk with a buncha american d00dz, not all of whom even fatter than asciilifeform !, and they would not hear of the idea of ~walking~ to restaurant <1km from office
mircea_popescu: his metabolism costs about 160% what it costs in normal people, and that's it.
mircea_popescu: eater of linoleum + soda water CAN'T walk, want to or no.
mircea_popescu: nah, actually, that gets taken care of "by itself"
mircea_popescu: add various complex toxins in there for spice, and you got it.
mircea_popescu: the way to end up usflated is a) margerine (gunks up the fat cycle, body ends up dependent on citric cycle for energy) + processed starches (hfcs, potato, whatever)
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's cow gonna do ? diabetes == vegetarian diet << Cow competes for carbs, hard to do if burger
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: getting up from the terminal on occasion is good for people, it is one of the reasons asciilifeform doesn't hurry to automate various chores
asciilifeform: STILL NOT IN CONSTANT TIME because apparently mother dropped him as a child
asciilifeform: but... get this :
asciilifeform: and then i look in shitpile of paperz and find that some d00d actually did this, called it 'subtractive karatsuba', used in some microcontroller,
asciilifeform: and realized, while doing this, that in fact you don't need 2k+2 bits for the karatsuba intermediates, you can do instead of (x0+x1)*(y0+y1) , (x0-x1)*(y0-y1), and then you don't need to propagate carries, but only take absolutevalue and xor the borrows to see if gotta invert the resulting term ☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform they didn't have the tech to produce mcdonalds princesses in 1100 india. << McDonalds or not, Beetus tends to run strong in Indian populations. Perhaps cow-ban is in response to earlier Mc-Hamplanet crisis on subcontinent?
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2017/the-pulation-and-other-biodiversities/ << Trilema - The Pulation and other biodiversities.
mircea_popescu: and with them it's almost tolerable.
mircea_popescu: but when india's involved it's not funny just like tuberculosis cough's not funny.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i think the discussion has uncovered why exactly it is my bristles stand up. it'd be one thing if a sane place with a sane culture with respectable people churned out a "hey, chick didn't get married because the cups lolz" thing. THEN it would be funny.
asciilifeform: the 'technology' of the latter, is afaik still virginal subject ( unlike metallurgy )
mircea_popescu: yes, well, good thing they were writing complicated "thank you for your leadership" pieces of maculature!
asciilifeform: turns out steel ain't enough, you also need to give half a shit
mircea_popescu: but, honestly, there's older beefs. srsly, schmucks had steel in 900 and never made tanks ? why ?
asciilifeform: by and large, india today ain't exporting the j.c.bose's, no.
mircea_popescu: which has succeeded in one aspect : i see india, generally speaking, as a sort of latrine. probably because of these.
asciilifeform: was not a massive wave of emigration, tho, not like j00z from su
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the working-head hindus you might conceivably run into outside of india, were pushed out in 1970s-80s 'red' phase, when untouchables took over academia and had a sort of american-style 'diversity' shitfest
asciilifeform: the folx asking on 'shit overflow' re 'how do i make for loop plz dear Sir help' are the... other kind
asciilifeform: ( among owners reputed to stand for Buy Other Stereo Equipment ! )
mircea_popescu: well in that sense there's also a mr haagen-dazs. hangs out with mr r mcd.
asciilifeform: there's even a bose in usa, possibly alive today, sold overprices stereos
asciilifeform: aah yeah tru
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform there was some nazi ally dude tryting to outs the british cca 1940s
mircea_popescu: aaa that bose.
asciilifeform: microwave transceivers in motherfucking 1880s
asciilifeform: do i have to keep going ?
mircea_popescu: how many intelligent indians do you know ? and how many bagawan what's his face, the inept chicago "professor"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have doubts that they ran a closed-arsemouth production cycle. it'd show today.
asciilifeform: 'lilavati' seems to translate simply as 'she-playful-one'
mircea_popescu: but, if the lived experience of ghandi is any guide, the classical indians did not very pointedly distinguish daughters from wives.
diana_coman: sure, what of it; all of them were L-whatevers
mircea_popescu: he prolly said the same to the harem girls, also.
diana_coman: at asciilifeform's link it even says it might have been his wife, not his daughter - so maybe it was more of a consolation/precisely the dedication thing I was saying earlier: too busy to fuck, I wrote this book
mircea_popescu: diana_coman there is that i guesd
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they did have the pox tho
diana_coman: sure; just that you don't claim *in writing* that it didn't work, lel
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they didn't have the tech to produce mcdonalds princesses in 1100 india.
mircea_popescu: nah cuz the vessel comes with a seal (and yes, the inspiration for babylonian trade, the seals, and amphorae was DEFINITELY the cunt). you can claim it wasn't tried or that it didn't work, these aren't confoundable.
asciilifeform: 'cause i can think of a few, linked, that might not..
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lesse what BingoBoingo says re whether ~all~ 'princesses' 'grip the same from behind'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform they all grip the same from behind. ugly prevented no princess to date.
diana_coman: I really think you are reading too much into it; the way I see the thing it's basically a dedication; inept like all dedications if analysed but wtf is there to analyse in the first place
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: alt-hypothesis -- princess ugly, 'cup system' -- rationalization of the 0 bidders...
mircea_popescu: diana_coman so let her father bring men home rather than write inept shit (which nevertheless was better than whatever europe had, or kamchatka for that matter, peninsulae nobody heard of)
diana_coman: that's the thing: she had value, not to be wasted /given away to any bum who s/he fell like fucking on the day
mircea_popescu: and this is also the root and beginning of all insanity.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes because the human cattle aspires to one thing above all, and that is to be relieved of the downside of agency while getting to keep on the sly as much as possible of the upside.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yet stories of 'the cups told' abound
mircea_popescu: and i dun care for the another thing at all.
diana_coman: I can't say I studied the time+culture of the guy to know, perhaps mircea_popescu knows better what he is talking about; it sounds really highly unlikely to me that it was the case that woman could just go and fuck, hurray, but whatevers
mircea_popescu: it is ANOTHER thing to go on about how the cups told you what to do and the spirits and the moasa-sa pe gheata.
mircea_popescu: it's annoying to high heavens. it's one thing to show up at your wedding and go "what a great day for a wedding, let's have two!" and force your first maid into marriage with some randomlty chosen guy. it's the same thing to say "fuck this shit, i don't feel like getting married today, go home all of youze".
diana_coman: I kind of doubt the story is *true* as such, so there is that
asciilifeform: so there's that.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the 1source of the story seems to be the farsi translator (16th c) of the text
mircea_popescu: diana_coman indians tho, these aren't wanna-be anglo muslims.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform moreover, i am not familiar with the story, nor with the culture, likely reading too much / wrong things into it.
diana_coman: honour deaths and all that are not anglo-thing
diana_coman: ugh, in the right conditions though, not exactly in all cases
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i suspect - unrelated. think, king has 1 daughter, 'fuck, how do i spend this one torpedo'
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i know of no culture outside of the chtonic-inspired anglos who deemed pregnancy as a negative.
mircea_popescu: could have simply consisted of "proasta pulii ce esti tu, mori de nefutai inecata in supa de pule."
asciilifeform: lol mircea_popescu beat me to it.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, this idea that go fuck woman of centuries ago and get yourself pregnant and oh, no worries,what
mircea_popescu: fucking puppies manage to figure it out eventually.
mircea_popescu: but seriously, wtf knowledge is it needed to stuff the plug into the prelubricated hole ?
asciilifeform: diana_coman: and to those who have ~worse~ plug also..
diana_coman: I suspect every hole in knowledge (and not only that) might look like... insanity to those who ...simply have a better plug; not even a full plug, just better
mircea_popescu: but let the record reflect that it strikes me as the height of batshit insane psychosis to fail to fuck and then misappropriate mathematics into one's psychosis.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually $subj is pretty good manual. beat the living shit out of what europe had going at the time ( and until end of 16th c, in some aspects )
mircea_popescu: and since about the invention of writing, so every perverse tard can note down his insanity for later perverse tards to apply.
diana_coman: so if they were impressed it follows it wasn't normal? lolz
asciilifeform: afaik the ancients actually bought the 'propitious time' thing. it was as real to them as 'launch at the right transit time of the orbits' is to modern rocketeer
mircea_popescu: from birth to about 2 or 3, something like that.
mircea_popescu: at the time they did this "normal development" visit with kids.
diana_coman: uhm, the doctor story is weird re impressed but maybe that was the point of the visit for all I know
mircea_popescu: you'll know after you're spent if it was going to be any good or not. never before.
mircea_popescu: if you get aroused, fuck. what the fuck is a marriage to begin with, let alone "propitious hours" bullshit.
mircea_popescu: nor, for that matter, indians of a millenium ago.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman when i was about three, they took me to a doctor. it was like a kinda mysterios affair, and it made no sense as i was not sick. the doctor asked me what do i do if i'm hungry ? and i told him i eat. he then asked me what do i do if i'm sleepy, and i said i go to bed. that was it, and everyone was impressed because apparently no fucking kids ever have any sense left.